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Trayvon Martin - INTO STREET FIGHTING!

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The government attempt to cover up who Trayvon Martin was is extreme.

In addition to his Facebook ID, a relative reporting he beat up a bus driver, here is a You-Tube video of Trayvon Martin referring a street-fight that someone saved before the government tried to bury it by having You-Tube removing it:

Trayvon Martin referees street fight - anthony vs. curtis - Video Dailymotion

This was at Trayvon Martin's home. It is from a fight club Martin was in.

A street fighter organizing street fights and refereeing them.
Assaulting a bus driver.
On his 3rd school suspension including for vandalizing another student's locker with an intimidating message.
Total lack of any parental supervision.
There also is evidence of his friends posting violent gang messages and symbols on websites.

A spoiled, violent, out of control juvenile deliquent doper and school-suspensions social malcontent - not the sweet little 12 year old walking home from a candy store.
 
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The audio's rather scratchy. How do you know it's authentic?
 
This post is too stupid for a normal comment. "The Government" at the heart of a conspiracy, seriously how unoriginal can ya get? Do you have any other sources for this besides a minute long "video" with no video but some scrambled audio part of which has some guy calling another guy trayvon?

Is this honestly what passes as evidence for you?
 
joko104 said:
The government attempt to cover up who Trayvon Martin was is extreme.

In addition to his Facebook ID, a relative reporting he beat up a bus driver, here is a You-Tube video of Trayvon Martin referring a street-fight that someone saved before the government tried to bury it by having You-Tube removing it:

Trayvon Martin referees street fight - anthony vs. curtis - Video Dailymotion

This was at Trayvon Martin's home. It is from a fight club Martin was in.

A street fighter organizing street fights and refereeing them.
Assaulting a bus driver.
On his 3rd school suspension including for vandalizing another student's locker with an intimidating message.
Total lack of any parental supervision.
There also is evidence of his friends posting violent gang messages and symbols on websites.

A spoiled, violent, out of control juvenile deliquent doper and school-suspensions social malcontent - not the sweet little 12 year old walking home from a candy store.
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Sometimes I'm surprised at my own reaction to things.

I don't see much wrong with this, frankly. Two kids decide to square off and keep it fair. I can't say I actually condone fighting; but it's going to happen. And if it is going to happen, keeping it one-on-one and more fair than not seems okay to me.

BTW, I couldn't identify Martin in this video. And, lastly, my virus software picked up and removed a threat I picked up from the click to it. I'm just sayin'...
 
Ouch, if there is a virus danger to the first link, don't open it. Open the second one.

TM's involvement in a fight club was fairly publicized initially, but the media didn't care to focus on it of course.

The relevancy is that the portray of TM as a sweet child just walking home burned into people. In fact, most teens are not into street fighting and most teens will go to great lengths to avoid a fight. The video shows that TM was not opposed to violence nor was it foreign to him, nor was fighting foreign to him. This also would support that TM would know how to surprise gang-bang take down even a bigger opponent by slamming that opponent in the face/nose. It wasn't a child knowing nothing about fighting just happening to throw a luck punch.
 
This trial is going to come down to Zimmerman's credibility in regards to his version of events. If Zimmerman's version of events is not believable then his claim of self-defense will not be believable.

I dare say that this trial may also come down to the racial make-up of the jury and their capacity for objective analysis of the facts.
 
joko104 said:
The government attempt to cover up who Trayvon Martin was is extreme...
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sounds like a conspiracy theory.

...A spoiled, violent, out of control juvenile deliquent doper and school-suspensions social malcontent - not the sweet little 12 year old walking home from a candy store.
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you also have claimed, over & over again, that Trayvon Martin never did anything nice for anyone in his entire life.

next you'll accuse him of eating human babies & hating kittens.
 
I believe the jury will be stacked, just like the put a noob corrupt and incompetent CIVIL LAW judge on the case.

The case is a simple question if legitimate. If a complete stranger at night when you are alone starts beating you up for reasons unknown may a person use deadly force to stop the assault.
 
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next you'll accuse him of eating human babies & hating kittens.
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Right? When we all know such accusations are only reserved for that nefarious zimmerman character
 
Because of other variations from what is normal court procedures and the many different corruptions so far.

Why do you think the government - which is the prosecution - would pick a fair jury pool to select from?

But I will acknowledge that is speculation on my part, not fact.
 
joko104 said:
Ouch, if there is a virus danger to the first link, don't open it. Open the second one.

TM's involvement in a fight club was fairly publicized initially, but the media didn't care to focus on it of course.

The relevancy is that the portray of TM as a sweet child just walking home burned into people. In fact, most teens are not into street fighting and most teens will go to great lengths to avoid a fight. The video shows that TM was not opposed to violence nor was it foreign to him, nor was fighting foreign to him. This also would support that TM would know how to surprise gang-bang take down even a bigger opponent by slamming that opponent in the face/nose. It wasn't a child knowing nothing about fighting just happening to throw a luck punch.
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The degree to which the media shamelessly attempted a "hi-tech lynching" of Zimmerman could also win him an acquittal if his attorney presents it correctly to a jury that is sympathetic.

Indeed, it is possible that Zimmerman could be acquitted on this aspect alone. One need only be reminded of the Duke lacrosse fiasco a few years ago where the media attempted a similar hi-tech lynching on three ivy-league college students who were totally innocent. Ironically, the grotesque media bias in this case might just prove to be Zimmerman's deliverance in the form of jury nullification.
 
Can we get this moved to the conspiracy forum with the other nutty threads?
 
Thunder said:
sounds like a conspiracy theory.



you also have claimed, over & over again, that Trayvon Martin never did anything nice for anyone in his entire life.

next you'll accuse him of eating human babies & hating kittens.
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But...... no_limit_nigga wuz juss a lil, sweet, innocent baa be.

Dat real, bro
 
ric27 said:
But...... no_limit_nigga wuz juss a lil, sweet, innocent baa be.

Dat real, bro
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Are you mimicking what you think is a black way of speaking? Why would you do that?

Classy.
 
Simon W. Moon said:
Can we get this moved to the conspiracy forum with the other nutty threads?
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The substance of this thread is TM into fighting, not my speculation of why the video was removed from You Tube.
 
joko104 said:
The substance of this thread is TM into fighting, not my speculation of why the video was removed from You Tube.
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the OP suggests a govt. plot involving Youtube, to help the defense, and that suggests a conspiracy.
 
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The degree to which the media shamelessly attempted a "hi-tech lynching" of Zimmerman could also win him an acquittal if his attorney presents it correctly to a jury that is sympathetic.

Indeed, it is possible that Zimmerman could be acquitted on this aspect alone. One need only be reminded of the Duke lacrosse fiasco a few years ago where the media attempted a similar hi-tech lynching on three ivy-league college students who were totally innocent. Ironically, the grotesque media bias in this case might just prove to be Zimmerman's deliverance in the form of jury nullification.
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There are so many directions GZ's defense could go it he really had a defense team that gave a damn.

Another aspect the defense is ignoring is the political aspect. The local police, investigator and local DA all saw no reason to bring charges.

Then the politicians jumped in and brought in the FEDS from D.C. and STATE guys from Talllihassee to override the local officials, police and prosecution, and suddenly after secret meetings with federal investigators all the defense witnesses are chickening out and prosecution witnesses are changing their stories to make their stories better for the prosecution.

GZ being used by state and national politicians is, in fact, quite relevant and at least a few of the jurors wouldn't like it - a lot.
 
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the OP suggests a govt. plot to help the defense, and that suggests a conspiracy.
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You mean to help the prosecution?

The government IS the prosecution. I have little doubt if the DOJ or any DA contacts You Tube claiming a video is inflammatory that You Tube will take it down.

Why did You Tube take the video down? I don't think GZ complained of it. Do you?

However, the SUBSTANCE of the OP is the title of the OP, not my own opinions of the topic.

Under your theory of what makes "conspiracy," every TM-GZ thread should be moved.

But I do understand that you and other Zimmerman opponents would like this topic and that video buried away. Gosh, areyou anti-Zimmerman people "conspiring" to have this thread moved? :lol:
 
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joko104 said:
There are so many directions GZ's defense could go it he really had a defense team that gave a damn.

Another aspect the defense is ignoring is the political aspect. The local police, investigator and local DA all saw no reason to bring charges.

Then the politicians jumped in and brought in the FEDS from D.C. and STATE guys from Talllihassee to override the local officials, police and prosecution, and suddenly after secret meetings with federal investigators all the defense witnesses are chickening out and prosecution witnesses are changing their stories to make their stories better for the prosecution.

GZ being used by state and national politicians is, in fact, quite relevant and at least a few of the jurors wouldn't like it - a lot.
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Conspiracy theories are always batty, but even battier without a shred of motive. There doesn't appear to be any motive for railroading Zimmerman, unless you're a party to a big secret no one else is aware of.
 
Andalublue said:
Conspiracy theories are always batty, but even battier without a shred of motive. There doesn't appear to be any motive for railroading Zimmerman, unless you're a party to a big secret no one else is aware of.
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You GOT to be kidding. TEN FBI agents assigned to a state criminal case, with the Federal DOJ involved, and the AG appointing a special prosecutor to veto the local DA who claimed their was no case and federal investigators to veto local law enforcement - isn't railroading? Obviously it is.
 
joko104 said:
You mean to help the prosecution?

The government IS the prosecution. I have little doubt if the DOJ or any DA contacts You Tube claiming a video is inflammatory that You Tube will take it down.

Why did You Tube take the video down? I don't think GZ complained of it. Do you?...
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just more evidence that the OP is a evil government CT.
 
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