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Zimmerman’s attorney: Trayvon Martin killed 'because of his own doing'

Aunt Spiker said:
For good reason said decision is made by a Forensic psychological examiner (forensic health professional, etc) according to the standards set up by the court/state - some common practices are that the FPE cannot form an opinion as to whether that person's guilty or not - nor are they called to the stand as a witness. To properly examine someone's overall psychological state they must be removed from 'the case' and approach it clinically.

Apparently this is a very GOOD thing seeing as how many normal people are considered 'insane' by random citizens after killing someone in any fashion.

If you met someone who was truly insane you'd have a different view

And on that note - why do you want him to be found insane, by the way? Usually people don't want a murderer to be found insane - they want them to be found able to stand up to trial in court and take all that's coming to them.
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I never used the term "insane"..

Have you read what happened with his former girlfriend Veronica Zauzo? Her dog bit him on the cheek after a shoving match.. She had asked him to leave. He refused...

Zimmerman is blaming Martin in this case just as he blamed a Veronic Zauzo.

He said that Zauzo was the aggressor because she demanded he spend the night.
 
sharon said:
I never used the term "insane"..

Have you read what happened with his former girlfriend Veronica Zauzo? Her dog bit him on the cheek after a shoving match.. She had asked him to leave. He refused...

Zimmerman is blaming Martin in this case just as he blamed a Veronic Zauzo.

He said that Zauzo was the aggressor because she demanded he spend the night.
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You can not even look at the present case accurately, and you now want us to take your spin as to what actually occurred in a different situation. And apply it negatively towards him?
lol

I don't even think you realize just how far out there you are.
 
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Thunder said:
there is no hard evidence as to whom attacked whom.

only the biased testimomy of a liar with a history of violence, who is on trial for Murder.
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He has a rather scant history of violence. A liar doesn't equate to a murderer.

It's interesting because Zimmerman wouldn't be in trouble for his bail if all the money had been placed in a trust fund for the explicit purpose of paying for his criminal defense. (For all we know, it was, by the way.)
 
Thunder said:
there is no hard evidence as to whom attacked whom.

only the biased testimomy of a liar with a history of violence, who is on trial for Murder.
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lol
False.
His account is consistent with the other evidence.
You would not get that if he was lying.
Period.
Get used to it.
 
sharon said:
I never used the term "insane"..

Have you read what happened with his former girlfriend Veronica Zauzo? Her dog bit him on the cheek after a shoving match.. She had asked him to leave. He refused...

Zimmerman is blaming Martin in this case just as he blamed a Veronic Zauzo.

He said that Zauzo was the aggressor because she demanded he spend the night.
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This is why such a thing will be determined by a licensed professional.

and not you.
 
Thunder said:
there is no other evidence as to whom started the fight.

all we have is the word of a liar and a racist, who loves calling the cops
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Liar? Perhaps. So are you.
A racist? No.
Loves calling the cops? That's usually not what criminals do.

Next.
 
Excon said:
You can not even look at the present case accurately, and you now want us to take your spin as to what actually occurred in a different situation. And apply it negatively towards him?
lol

I don't even think you realize just how far out there you are.
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Not at all. George is a veritable check list of classic symptoms and actions.

It will be a year before George goes to trial.. GZ craves authority and control.. Don't you recall what his first two lawyers said?? He was fragile and erratic.. Remember that he called Hanity and tried to call Angela Corey.

OMara has a huge problem of trying to manage a highly unstable defendant.
 
sharon said:
Not at all. George is a veritable check list of classic symptoms and actions.

It will be a year before George goes to trial.. GZ craves authority and control.. Don't you recall what his first two lawyers said?? He was fragile and erratic.. Remember that he called Hanity and tried to call Angela Corey.

OMara has a huge problem of trying to manage a highly unstable defendant.
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I think you are projecting.
 
sharon said:
Not at all. George is a veritable check list of classic symptoms and actions.

It will be a year before George goes to trial.. GZ craves authority and control.. Don't you recall what his first two lawyers said?? He was fragile and erratic...
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when your own lawyer calls you "fragile & erratic", you KNOW you got serious problems.

clearly, Zimmerman is just a disaster waiting to happen.
 
Thunder said:
when your own lawyer calls you "fragile & erratic", you KNOW you got serious problems.

clearly, Zimmerman is just a disaster waiting to happen.
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Well, OMara is not a rookie.. He has a pretty good idea what is wrong with George.
 
What if...? said:
Got a link for that?

Seriously, that's the first I've heard of that.
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Had more time than I expected.



He tells her he isn't going to run because he is right by his father's house.
A couple of minutes pass and all of a sudden he is being followed again.

GIRLFRIEND: I said, 'Keep running.' He said he ain’t gonna run. 'Cause he said he is right by his father house.
And then in a couple minutes he said the man is following him again. He’s behind him. I said, 'Run!'
He said he was not going to run. I knew he was not going to run because he was out of breath.
And then he was getting excited, the guy’s getting close to him. I told him, 'Run!'
And I told him, 'Keep running!' He not going to run. I tell him, 'Why are you not running?'
He said ’I’m not gonna.’ He was tired. I know he was tired.​



start @ the 5:25 mark
 
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sharon said:
Prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda told the court that the state’s case will show that Zimmerman overstepped his authority as a citizen by profiling an innocent boy as a criminal, falsely acted as a police officer by pursuing him, and shot and killed Martin without sufficient evidence that his own life was actually in danger.

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Mr. De la Rionda said he’ll be glad to challenge Zimmerman on the self-defense claim, because it requires Zimmerman has to take the stand to plead his case. “Our contention is that he’s the aggressor and the person who could claim self-defense is the victim, Trayvon Martin,” De la Rionda said.
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So Zimmerman will actually have to testify... that's kind of cool

When will we know what the judge decides about the bond?
 
Never mind.
 
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Thunder said:
oh, so character no longer has any bearing on criminal trials?

good to know.
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Completely depends, Thunder. Does the victim's character matter if a prostitute is raped?

Everybody lies.
 
Tigger said:
They should not be wandering around unaccompanied. I live in a condo complex. My unit is the first one inside the outside doors. Because my door is visible from the "airlock", I get 5-8 "ring ins" a day. I ignore them. If they ring a second time I stick my head out the door and tell them I don't ring-in ANYONE who isn't there to see me. About 90% of the time, I do that with a .38spl. handgun behind my hip. I'm also that asshole who constantly shuts the inside (locked) door that is supposed to remain closed at all times, but which certain neighbors of mine seem to prefer to leave open quite often.
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I wonder if your neighbors know how much danger they're in when they walk past your door every day.
 
Excon said:
Had more time than I expected.



He tells her he isn't going to run because he is right by his father's house.
A couple of minutes pass and all of a sudden he is being followed again.

GIRLFRIEND: I said, 'Keep running.' He said he ain’t gonna run. 'Cause he said he is right by his father house.
And then in a couple minutes he said the man is following him again. He’s behind him. I said, 'Run!'
He said he was not going to run. I knew he was not going to run because he was out of breath.
And then he was getting excited, the guy’s getting close to him. I told him, 'Run!'
And I told him, 'Keep running!' He not going to run. I tell him, 'Why are you not running?'
He said ’I’m not gonna.’ He was tired. I know he was tired.​



start @ the 5:25 mark
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It doesn't sound like Trayvon calmly walked down the hill and circled Zimmerman's truck... lol
 
SheWolf said:
So Zimmerman will actually have to testify... that's kind of cool

When will we know what the judge decides about the bond?
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I really don't know when the judge will rule on a new bond.. he has to read over thousands of pages of evidence. It won't be an easy call.. George was escalating.

On Feb 27th he was at SPD waiting for Serino.. The female officer assigned to watch him reported:

George asked her if she had ever shot and killed anyone.. She said NO.. and George started laughing.
 
sharon said:
I really don't know when the judge will rule on a new bond.. he has to read over thousands of pages of evidence. It won't be an easy call.. George was escalating.

On Feb 27th he was at SPD waiting for Serino.. The female officer assigned to watch him reported:

George asked her if she had ever shot and killed anyone.. She said NO.. and George started laughing.
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I guess GZ was proud of his actions.
 
Thunder said:
I guess GZ was proud of his actions.
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Well.. he also made that hoodie joke..

This killing brought money and notoriety...

GZ will pop up time after time.. long after I am gone.
 
sharon said:
I really don't know when the judge will rule on a new bond.. he has to read over thousands of pages of evidence. It won't be an easy call.. George was escalating.

On Feb 27th he was at SPD waiting for Serino.. The female officer assigned to watch him reported:

George asked her if she had ever shot and killed anyone.. She said NO.. and George started laughing.
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What you are describing happened just before the test was administrated.

Watch the video and see what occurs.
 
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