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Next debunking of character assasination of Zimmerman

Thunder said:
I know she has more medical experience than both of us combined.
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Figures.

You understand that she isn't a Doctor like you claimed, right?
So what you claimed was untrue, correct?
 
Excon said:
Figures.

You understand that she isn't a Doctor like you claimed, right?
So what you claimed was untrue, correct?
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that was an error, just as you eroneously claimed that GZ was acting as Neighborhood Watchman when he pursued TM.
 
Thunder said:
that was an error, just as you eroneously claimed that GZ was acting as Neighborhood Watchman when he pursued TM.
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The two errors are not similar.

It was reported as if he was on NW patrol, only to find out later that he was actually on his way to the store.
As soon as that error was known my position changed as was known by what I presented.

You on the other hand... Your error was in your misreading what the article said, and then claimed it was a doctor, when the article actually said it was a PA.
And after being corrected you still said it was a Doctor. :doh

Yeah, big difference between the two errors.
 
Thunder said:
wrong.

as soon as you pointed out that she is not a licensed physician, I stopped refering to her as such.
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Wrong!

It was pointed out to you 7 ½ Hours Earlier! :doh
 
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Thunder said:
wrong.

as soon as you pointed out that she is not a licensed physician, I stopped refering to her as such.
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That isn't true.

See, here you are mistaken and I am not calling you a liar, because it is obvious you are just mistaken.



In this thread this is what occurred.

Excon @ Today said:
Thunder @ Today said:
according to the doctor, there was no head trauma.
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Really?
We need to do this again?

But the physician’s assistant who treated him determined he neither needed X-rays nor had he suffered head trauma, newly released medical records show.
Medical records: George Zimmerman had black eyes, painful broken nose but no head trauma - Trayvon Martin - MiamiHerald.com​
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Just why on earth do you think I asked if we needed to do this again?

Huh?

Could it possibly be that it was previously done?

Common sense would say that was a good explanation.
Which now that I think about, may be why you didn't catch it.

Anyways, the following is where it was previously pointed out to you...

7 ½ Hours Earlier! :doh


Excon @ Today said:
Thunder @ Today said:
GZ's doctor says no head trauma:

Medical records: George Zimmerman had black eyes, painful broken nose but no head trauma - Trayvon Martin - MiamiHerald.com

the claim about the EMTs was from Sharon, so I'll just go by the doctor's report instead
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Let us dispatch with this one immediately.

But the physician’s assistant who treated him determined he neither needed X-rays nor had he suffered head trauma, newly released medical records show.​



Did you get that?

Good.

Next!
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Excon said:
Wrong!

It was pointed out to you 7 ½ Hours Earlier! :doh
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I stand corrected.
It was not 7 ½ hours earlier.

It was 7 hours and 23 minutes earlier that you were first notified.

lol

:mrgreen:
 
Excon said:
I stand corrected.
It was not 7 ½ hours earlier.

It was 7 hours and 23 minutes earlier that you were first notified.

lol

:mrgreen:
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What is your problem with a PA?

If the PA had any doubts, he/she would have called in the supervising physician. That's how they operate.

The EMTs offered to take GZ to the hospital for an ER evaluation and that is SOP.. Its about liability.. the cops don't want a person suddenly dying in lock up because they missed a serious head injury.

George's injuries were minor and his vitals.. pulse and respiration.. were normal per the EMTs.

George set off a series events that lead to the shooting of an unarmed teen.

It would go better for George if he'd man up and be accountable.
 
sharon said:
What is your problem with a PA?
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WTF???
I have no problem with the PA. You all do.
Calling her a Doctor when she is not.


sharon said:
If the PA had any doubts, he/she would have called in the supervising physician. That's how they operate.

The EMTs offered to take GZ to the hospital for an ER evaluation and that is SOP.. Its about liability.. the cops don't want a person suddenly dying in lock up because they missed a serious head injury.

George's injuries were minor and his vitals.. pulse and respiration.. were normal per the EMTs.

George set off a series events that lead to the shooting of an unarmed teen.
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Non-sense, which doesn't apply to what was said.



sharon said:
It would go better for George if he'd man up and be accountable.
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WTH???
He did man-up. He claimed he shot him.
You do not hold someone accountable for acting in self-defense. That is a ridiculous concept.
 
Excon said:
Wrong!

It was pointed out to you 7 ½ Hours Earlier! :doh
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forgive me for not stalking your posts, searching through every minute detail.

as soon as I became aware of your correction, I posted accordingly.
 
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Thunder said:
forgive me for not stalking your posts, searching through every minute detail.

as soon as I became aware of your correction, I posted accordingly.
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It just shows that you are not paying attention.
 
Excon said:
It just shows that you are not paying attention.
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are you done, or are you going to go on & on & on about this, like you did with the definition of stalking, and calling him TM/Martin rather than using his full or first name?
 
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Thunder said:
are you done, or are you going to go on & on about this obsessively, like you did with the definition of stalking, and calling him TM/Martin rather than using his full or first name?
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First of all, it was you who was obsessively going on and on posting that Zimmerman was "stalking". I just provided correction. That is appropriate.

Secondly, I have not gone on and on about using Trayvon's first name like you disrespectfully do not do.

Thirdly, one reply placing your actions in proper perspective (your obviously not paying attention) is not obsessively anything.
 
Excon said:
First of all, it was you who was obsessively going on and on posting that Zimmerman was "stalking". I just provided correction. That is appropriate.

Secondly, I have not gone on and on about using Trayvon's first name like you disrespectfully do not do.

Thirdly, one reply placing your actions in proper perspective (your obviously not paying attention) is not obsessively anything.
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good, so now we are done with this issue.

moving on.
 
sharon said:
What is your problem with a PA?

If the PA had any doubts, he/she would have called in the supervising physician. That's how they operate.

The EMTs offered to take GZ to the hospital for an ER evaluation and that is SOP.. Its about liability.. the cops don't want a person suddenly dying in lock up because they missed a serious head injury.

George's injuries were minor and his vitals.. pulse and respiration.. were normal per the EMTs.

George set off a series events that lead to the shooting of an unarmed teen.

It would go better for George if he'd man up and be accountable.
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TM set off a series of events that lead to his being shot. It would be better if people would acknowledge what actually happened and leave the politics and race-baiting out of it.

"Man up" is a current popular sexist slogan.
 
joko104 said:
TM set off a series of events that lead to his being shot. It would be better if people would acknowledge what actually happened and leave the politics and race-baiting out of it.

"Man up" is a current popular sexist slogan.
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Trayvon was walking home from the store and talking on the phone, not looking for burglars.

Man up just means be accountable for your actions... regardless of gender (or color).

Weren't you just claiming it was political or was that someone else?
 
joko104 said:
TM set off a series of events that lead to his being shot. It would be better if people would acknowledge what actually happened and leave the politics and race-baiting out of it.

"Man up" is a current popular sexist slogan.
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While I think several posters have blindly railroaded GZ, throwing everything but the kitchen sink at him in their attempt to villify him, his motives and actions . . . I actually believe that GZ percipitated the events that led to TM's killing. And that's what is probably going to convict him of something. Murder 2? No. I don't think GZ acted with a depraved mind. But I do think that, were it not for his actions, TM would be alive today. He was just an average teenager. Not a punk. Not a gang-banger. Just a kid. Very sad.

While GZ's actions were all legal, they were suspicious to TM. They would've been to me as well. The only thing that puts this back on Martin is that he apparently confronted GZ -- which tells me he wasn't afraid. I always use "The Maggie Test." If I were walking on a dark street and someone was following me, I would most certainly not confront them. And, if I did, and they reached into their pocket? I wouldn't automatically think they were reaching for a gun and punch them in the face.

Even as I write this, I see this, again, as the Perfect Storm. Sometimes **** happens. Does someone go to jail for twenty years for it? I just don't think so.
 
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