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NBC News distorts Zimmerman 911 call

Neal N. Bloeme said:
Hannity is only one source reporting this. Actually, it's all over the place now. I also don't watch cable news.
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You would not expect abc, cbs to come out and say nbc edited the tapes. They all do it to some extent.
 
Neal N. Bloeme said:
Why did NBC deliberately edit the conversation?
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you would have to ask them.
Here is my take.
if you heard :dispatcher to caller, did you get a good look at the suspect? Was the person you saw black, white, or hispanic?
and the caller replied. yes, he was black.

Now lets edit, :dispatcher to caller, did you get a good look at the suspect? (delete: Was the person you saw black, white, or hispanic?
and the caller replied. yes, he was black.

One the caller is responding to a multiple choice, The second, gives no hint the dispatcher gave it as a multiple choice, (supporting maybe a racial profile and dislike for blacks)

If you are going to report on the 911 call, play all of the section. Not some editorialized version. NBC did not state they edited the tape for time and content.
 
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So if I understand this right....

Fox News airs edited video by some other guy that was originally posted on Brietbart and the proper response is "GRRRR! It's EDITED! DISHONEST! FAUX news is horrid!"

however

Other news outlets edit video in a way that produces an entirely different context and the proper response is "GRRRR! FAUX News Reported that! Lets talk about their dishonest!"

So what I'm getting is apparently the issue isn't whether or not the news is dishonest, the issue is figuring out how to bitch and whine about fox news.

The editing in this piece is despicable and paints an entirely different picture. Not only that, the editing is the basis for which much of the heated calls of "racism" were based during the early days of this which led to such illegality as "bounties" being placed on people and news stations all over pushing the "Racist" agenda.
 
Here is another one along the lines of distortion. Did we all know the photo that have been used my the main networks are outdated.
Zimmermans photo was from 5 years ago. Trayvon is a couple of years old, showing him at a younger age, not at 17.

. "Trayvon Martin Case: Photos Can be Deceiving | Fox News Latino

Never heard the media state anything about the age of the photos..
 
Karl said:
The man is a racist, otherwise he would not have been chasing a black man (are you going to argue that he would have chased a white Treyvon Martin?) ...
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I think he may have. Merely because there doesn't seem to be anything that forces to look outside of my current version of Zimmermanin my imagination. It's largely colored by Z's many calls to the PD and the content of those calls. eg Apparently, a neighbor's dog got loose and came running up to Z. Z said he didn't know if the dog was aggressive or not, so he ran inside and called the police. He saw trash in the roadway that appeared to have glass in it. So he called the police. He saw a woman yelling at the other people in her jeep. He didn't know if she was hitting them or not. So he called the police. Someone was "cutting people off" while driving. So he called the police. Can't help but wonder if the "people" were George. The landlord was trying to "take" Zimmermans money (the rent?) when the home was in foreclosure. So he called the police. There was a big pothole in the road. So he called the police.
I am not convinced his suspicion of Martin had that much to do with the color of Martin's skin.
AFAICT, the serious issues about race in this case involve the PD. idk what the deal was, and I am not yet that interested, but apparently Chief Lee was hired to clean up the PD because of racial issue(s). w/e. So the racial angle, afaict, involves the allegation that race played a factor in the quality of the investigation and in the decision about trying Zimmerman.
I don't think that the racial angle in re Zimmerman is that much of a factor. imho.
 
Boo Radley said:
Seriously, going to Hanniety for something on bias? :2funny:
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Yea, I know.
But the question is he wrong? If in fact Hanniety played the actual 911 tape, and then showed what NBC did. Don't you have a problem with the way NBC presented the tape?
 
mike2810 said:
Yea, I know.
But the question is he wrong? If in fact Hanniety played the actual 911 tape, and then showed what NBC did. Don't you have a problem with the way NBC presented the tape?
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He very well could be. It would not be the first time these shows misrepresented something. The fair thing to would be to be skeptical and seek verification from other sources, particularly sources that have a better reputation. I can't count how many times these entertainers, on both sides of the isle, have throw up less than homest representations of something.
 
Grim17 said:
Right on Boo... Attack the source and avoid the topic... GREAT JOB!

BTW, if you object to what was presented, let's hear it... Since I know you can't, why don't you run along and play somewhere else.
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You misunderstand burden of proof. This throwing up Hannity's claim doesn't mean anyone ahs to run out and prove him false. The burden is on you to prove him correct. As his reputation is suspect, no one should accept this unquestioned. Political entertainers of all strips are less than honest by their very nature. This means that not only should no one take them at face value, they should never ever be used as a source.
 
Arbo said:
Ah! Wikipedia, where ANYONE can get on and add or edit content to their biased hearts delight!
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You obviously are fairly uninformed of how Wikipedia works, how it is edited or how to use its numerous citations for its sources. Several times now you attack this source and you are NEVER able to show what is wrong with any specific information found there.

Why is that?
 
Zyphlin said:
So if I understand this right....

Fox News airs edited video by some other guy that was originally posted on Brietbart and the proper response is "GRRRR! It's EDITED! DISHONEST! FAUX news is horrid!"

however

Other news outlets edit video in a way that produces an entirely different context and the proper response is "GRRRR! FAUX News Reported that! Lets talk about their dishonest!"

So what I'm getting is apparently the issue isn't whether or not the news is dishonest, the issue is figuring out how to bitch and whine about fox news.

The editing in this piece is despicable and paints an entirely different picture. Not only that, the editing is the basis for which much of the heated calls of "racism" were based during the early days of this which led to such illegality as "bounties" being placed on people and news stations all over pushing the "Racist" agenda.
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Pushing what racist agenda?
 
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jamesrage said:
Hannity may be biased but that most certainly doesn't make him wrong for pointing out NBC's blatant dishonesty in editing the 911 call. Of course I am sure lib-tards will ignore the fact NBC blatantly distorted the 911 call to make martin look like a racist.
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What they'll do is use 1 of two tactics seen in this thread. It's par for the course:

1. Ignore the facts, and try to change the subject.
2. Say "well both sides do it so it's ok".

Both methods have been used here.
 
Zyphlin said:
[...] The editing in this piece is despicable and paints an entirely different picture. Not only that, the editing is the basis for which much of the heated calls of "racism" were based during the early days of this which led to such illegality as "bounties" being placed on people and news stations all over pushing the "Racist" agenda.
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You ignore Zimmerman's other words on the tape... 'effing whatever' and 'they always get away'.

I agree the NBC edit could be taken out of context somewhat, but overall Zimmerman appeared to have a racial bent in this instance, so it is not manufactured out of thin air.

And blaming NBC for the bounty is ridiculous.
 
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I don't see a "racial bent" in Zimmerman's recorded conversation, and in his personal life, there's no evidence of a "racial bent." Do those with "racial problems" tutor/mentor children of other races? Anyway, what NBC did was dishonest.
 
nota bene said:
I don't see a "racial bent" in Zimmerman's recorded conversation [...]
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Explain the 'effing' comment. ****ing Goon? Or . . . .

And who is it that 'always gets away'?
 
Grim17 said:
This is disgusting... Just go to the 2:30 mark and see for yourself...

Bozell on Hannity 'Media Mash': NBC Deliberately Skewed Travyvon Martin Story with Selective Editing | MRCTV
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Same crap different day.

They attack everyone else for reporting without all the facts, yet they do the same thing all the time. Basically, the only reason they're whining is because the people arguing without all the facts are democrats. If this were Republicans whining without all the facts, they'd be doing it right along side them and you'd have plenty of liberals complaining about it.
 
Karl said:
Explain the 'effing' comment. ****ing Goon? Or . . . .

And who is it that 'always gets away'?
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Stop assuming what he said. You can't understand it. I heard the recording. Stop putting words in his mouth when garbled nothing is all that can truly be heard.

Who always gets away? I don't know.....possibly criminals? If thats this guys perception? I mean c'mon, you've been given an audio transcript with blank lines for unintelligible words and you're filling in the blanks with what YOU wanted him to say.

Stop, you're making an ass of yourself.
 
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dontworrybehappy said:
Stop assuming what he said. You can't understand it. I heard the recording. Stop putting words in his mouth when garbled nothing is all that can truly be heard.

Who always gets away? I don't know.....possibly criminals? If thats this guys perception? I mean c'mon, you've been given an audio transcript with blank lines for unintelligible words and you're filling in the blanks with what YOU wanted him to say.

Stop, you're making an ass of yourself.
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You just flushed your argument down the toilet :lamo
 
Wow... No sooner do you post this:

dontworrybehappy said:
What they'll do is use 1 of two tactics seen in this thread. It's par for the course:

1. Ignore the facts, and try to change the subject.
2. Say "well both sides do it so it's ok".

Both methods have been used here.
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Than we get this:


roughdraft274 said:
Same crap different day.

They attack everyone else for reporting without all the facts, yet they do the same thing all the time. Basically, the only reason they're whining is because the people arguing without all the facts are democrats. If this were Republicans whining without all the facts, they'd be doing it right along side them and you'd have plenty of liberals complaining about it.
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Even when you tell them exactly how they will be dishonest, they do it anyway. LMMFAO
 
dontworrybehappy said:
What they'll do is use 1 of two tactics seen in this thread. It's par for the course:

1. Ignore the facts, and try to change the subject.
2. Say "well both sides do it so it's ok".

Both methods have been used here.
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This is something lib-tards rarely admit about the liberal media.As far as they are concerned it is only conservative news,talk shows and entertainment sources that are biased. For example a unknown republican allegedly tries to solicit sex in a airport bathroom and its on the news for weeks and aired every day, but a well known democrat presidential candidate has an affair on his sick wife and it only gets a token mention mention by the media. Or a democrat governor has an affair on his pregnant wife. Instead the liberal media saying what a scumbag he is for having an affair on his wife they call him a brave man for coming out the closet and he even got to appear on liberal talks shows like Oprah to talk about what a brave man he is for coming out the closet.
 
Karl said:
Explain the 'effing' comment. ****ing Goon? Or . . . .

And who is it that 'always gets away'?
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Or explain what was so threatening that a kid was carrying a box of Skittles and an Ice Tea. I am sure his black face had nothing whatsoever to do with it. :roll:
 
Grim17 said:
[...] Even when you tell them exactly how they will be dishonest, they do it anyway. LMMFAO
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Speaking of dishonest, what is wrong with saying "he looks black" when describing a suspected criminal to the police? I certainly don't adjudge Zimmerman a racist because of those words.

Now, "****ing *oon", "he looks like he's up to no good", "they always get away", well, when you string them all together, you may be on to something.

Hannity's outrage did not match the offense. Of course, who does that surprise? And of course, given his own unfamiliarity with truthful reporting, his hypocrisy is so staggering as to be humorous. However, he and his network get nailed so often, and often so accurately, that they no doubt salivate at the chance to pin any type of misrepresentation upon another network, especially a mainstream broadcast news outlet.
 
Boo Radley said:
You misunderstand burden of proof. This throwing up Hannity's claim doesn't mean anyone ahs to run out and prove him false. The burden is on you to prove him correct. As his reputation is suspect, no one should accept this unquestioned. Political entertainers of all strips are less than honest by their very nature. This means that not only should no one take them at face value, they should never ever be used as a source.
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So you give NBC a free ride as if they are correct, yet someone has to prove the Hannity played tape is correct.
Good to know you have so much faith in the main network news.:lol:
 
Grim17 said:
Even when you tell them exactly how they will be dishonest, they do it anyway. LMMFAO
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Exactly what part of "both sides do it" do you find dishonest? If you're honestly trying to argue that I'm wrong, and that it doesn't happen on both sides, I'd love to hear your mangled argument for that.
 
NBC to do 'internal investigation' on Zimmerman segment - Erik Wemple - The Washington Post

NBC told this blog today that it would investigate its handling of a piece on the “Today” show that ham-handedly abridged the conversation between George Zimmerman and a dispatcher in the moments before the death of Trayvon Martin. A statement from NBC:​



“We have launched an internal investigation into the editorial process surrounding this particular story.”​
 
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