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Some Oregonians Want to Secede to Join Idaho

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I don't have a dog in this fight, but it looks interesting.





Some Republicans in super-liberal Oregon are looking to ‘secede to Idaho’
A conservative group in Oregon is collecting signatures to make the rural counties in the state a part of Idaho. It's not the first time in recent history the borders of Oregon have faced a proposed change.

Seven years ago, keen for a more conservative lifestyle, Mike McCarter, a firearms instructor in La Pine, Ore., considered moving to Idaho.
But McCarter, 72, diagnosed with stomach cancer, decided not to. Now he’s thinking he might just move Idaho to him.

The Republican is a leader of a group called Move Oregon’s Border for a Greater Idaho, which thinks Oregon’s government has become too liberal and would prefer to transfer Oregon’s rural areas to Idaho’s authority.


While Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton narrowly won Oregon in 2016, then-Republican candidate Donald Trump swept up Idaho with nearly 60 percent of the vote.

McCarter’s group is asking 18 Oregon counties to approve their petitions to open communications with Oregon’s legislature. Three have in the past week, McCarter said. Once approved, the group still would need to collect signatures of about 6 percent of the counties’ populations for local voters to see the referendum on their November ballots, the Oregonian recently reported. . . .

 
I don't have a dog in this fight, but it looks interesting.





Some Republicans in super-liberal Oregon are looking to ‘secede to Idaho’
A conservative group in Oregon is collecting signatures to make the rural counties in the state a part of Idaho. It's not the first time in recent history the borders of Oregon have faced a proposed change.

Seven years ago, keen for a more conservative lifestyle, Mike McCarter, a firearms instructor in La Pine, Ore., considered moving to Idaho.
But McCarter, 72, diagnosed with stomach cancer, decided not to. Now he’s thinking he might just move Idaho to him.

The Republican is a leader of a group called Move Oregon’s Border for a Greater Idaho, which thinks Oregon’s government has become too liberal and would prefer to transfer Oregon’s rural areas to Idaho’s authority.


While Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton narrowly won Oregon in 2016, then-Republican candidate Donald Trump swept up Idaho with nearly 60 percent of the vote.

McCarter’s group is asking 18 Oregon counties to approve their petitions to open communications with Oregon’s legislature. Three have in the past week, McCarter said. Once approved, the group still would need to collect signatures of about 6 percent of the counties’ populations for local voters to see the referendum on their November ballots, the Oregonian recently reported. . . .


Its destined for the same fate as the State of Jefferson which is the same general area.
 
Has about as much chance of happening as gravity all of a sudden not working tomorrow.
 
I don't have a dog in this fight, but it looks interesting.





Some Republicans in super-liberal Oregon are looking to ‘secede to Idaho’
A conservative group in Oregon is collecting signatures to make the rural counties in the state a part of Idaho. It's not the first time in recent history the borders of Oregon have faced a proposed change.

Seven years ago, keen for a more conservative lifestyle, Mike McCarter, a firearms instructor in La Pine, Ore., considered moving to Idaho.
But McCarter, 72, diagnosed with stomach cancer, decided not to. Now he’s thinking he might just move Idaho to him.

The Republican is a leader of a group called Move Oregon’s Border for a Greater Idaho, which thinks Oregon’s government has become too liberal and would prefer to transfer Oregon’s rural areas to Idaho’s authority.


While Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton narrowly won Oregon in 2016, then-Republican candidate Donald Trump swept up Idaho with nearly 60 percent of the vote.

McCarter’s group is asking 18 Oregon counties to approve their petitions to open communications with Oregon’s legislature. Three have in the past week, McCarter said. Once approved, the group still would need to collect signatures of about 6 percent of the counties’ populations for local voters to see the referendum on their November ballots, the Oregonian recently reported. . . .


Yes, Eastern Oregon is probably even more racist than Idaho.
 
Yes, Eastern Oregon is probably even more racist than Idaho.

Probably they are just trying to follow Bernie Sanders white flight practice to get away from black men - with Bloomberg explaining it is a genetic fact that black men are criminals and all blacks and Latinos are geneticially incapable of behaving or succeeding at anything but being criminals.
 
Probably they are just trying to follow Bernie Sanders white flight practice to get away from black men

That's why Bernie luvs Denmark and the other Nordic countries. They're all 90+% white.

- with Bloomberg explaining it is a genetic fact that black men are criminals and all blacks and Latinos are geneticially incapable of behaving or succeeding at anything but being criminals.

Well, according to Bloomberg, they might have the mental capability to become farmers.
 
I doubt the coast is rural.
 
That's why Bernie luvs Denmark and the other Nordic countries. They're all 90+% white.



Well, according to Bloomberg, they might have the mental capability to become farmers.

:thumbs: Probably so, but still black people still couldn't because due to their genetics they are incapable of behaving correctly at anything and therefore have no prospect to succeed at anything - also according to Bloomberg. Maybe black and Latino people could succeed at being an "it" person (transgender).
 
I feel the pain of the folks west of Portland wanting to join Idaho because they share much more with them than they do with Portland. Same with the southern part of the state that wanted to join with the northern part of California to make a new state for the same reason. You got to feel for these folks. They see everything they hold dear being trashed by the leftists that seem to be running the show.
 
Do these groups ever attempt to explain how much this would all cost the citizens of these proposed new states?

All businesses will have to change their addresses which is a logistical nightmare. Colleges will have to completely change their names and surely irritate allumni.

Law enforcement agencies will also have to change their names and repaint their identifing names on all vehicles and buildings.

These are just a few things that pop up quickly to me. I just can't imagine all that would be needed to actually have this happen.

They need to actually tell the citizens of that area how much this is going disrupt everything in their lives.
 
Its destined for the same fate as the State of Jefferson which is the same general area.

Jefferson has to stand in line behind the State of Franklin. So the batting order is Franklin, Jefferson, DC, Greater West By God Virginia, then Greater Idaho.
 
Do these groups ever attempt to explain how much this would all cost the citizens of these proposed new states?

All businesses will have to change their addresses which is a logistical nightmare. Colleges will have to completely change their names and surely irritate allumni.

Law enforcement agencies will also have to change their names and repaint their identifing names on all vehicles and buildings.

These are just a few things that pop up quickly to me. I just can't imagine all that would be needed to actually have this happen.

They need to actually tell the citizens of that area how much this is going disrupt everything in their lives.

Personally that would be chump change to most of them. They are not going to bark over such petty things you mention if they are able to be part of a state that respects them and their freedoms and liberty. Something many in Oregon feel are in jeopardy at this time.
 
Maybe they can win a meaningful Power 5 college football game.
 
Probably they are just trying to follow Bernie Sanders white flight practice to get away from black men - with Bloomberg explaining it is a genetic fact that black men are criminals and all blacks and Latinos are geneticially incapable of behaving or succeeding at anything but being criminals.

It's easy enough to criticize Bloomberg without lying about what he's said. You might should try sticking to the truth. It's more effective. The sane will reject your lies as unhinged partisan rants.
 
I feel the pain of the folks west of Portland wanting to join Idaho because they share much more with them than they do with Portland. Same with the southern part of the state that wanted to join with the northern part of California to make a new state for the same reason. You got to feel for these folks. They see everything they hold dear being trashed by the leftists that seem to be running the show.

Do you feel any pain for those on the left forced to be governed by idiots in the GOP, such as throughout the south? My goodness, one of my Senators is lunatic Marsha Blackburn. :(
 
I feel the pain of the folks west of Portland wanting to join Idaho because they share much more with them than they do with Portland. Same with the southern part of the state that wanted to join with the northern part of California to make a new state for the same reason. You got to feel for these folks. They see everything they hold dear being trashed by the leftists that seem to be running the show.

This is literally insane babbling.

Folks west of Portland live all the way out to Astoria.
 
Not happening. Needs the approval of these counties voters first, then the approval of these respective legislatures, and the governors signature, then Congress has a say. I doubt these Oregonians will be as interested when they start looking at the costs. And guess what these rural folks historically loathe more than liberals. Why a 6% sales/ use tax! SALES/USE TAX HUB - Idaho State Tax Commission
 
Do you feel any pain for those on the left forced to be governed by idiots in the GOP, such as throughout the south? My goodness, one of my Senators is lunatic Marsha Blackburn. :(

So you reside in TN. You are definitely in the minority. :lol: Beautiful state. Love to go there anytime I can. Love the Smokey Mountains and the hospitality in your area. Nothing like renting a cabin in the woods. The walks through the forest on a bed of shedding pine needles and see the rays of sunshine making its way to the floor of the forest. It is nothing to see a black bear. The babbling brooks, waterfalls just spectacular.
The Tennessee economy is thriving. Marsha Blackburn even though you do not approve of her, believes your state is doing the right thing when they are inclusive of all hardworking people. Right now your state is below the national average of unemployed at 3.3 %.
 
Personally that would be chump change to most of them. They are not going to bark over such petty things you mention if they are able to be part of a state that respects them and their freedoms and liberty. Something many in Oregon feel are in jeopardy at this time.

Petty things , huh? I think these proponents just think this all could be changed with a simple snap of the fingers.
Surely they have done the research to produce the cost this would involve. Odd though, that is never discussed in these new state groups.

Have seen this done in a much more smaller version with cities that split in two. What happens is you get rid of one group of idiot lawmakers and replace them with another group of idiot lawmakers.

The grass does always look greener.
 
This is literally insane babbling.

Folks west of Portland live all the way out to Astoria.

The people west of Portland and might I add south see laws coming out of the Oregon Legislature that threaten their livelihoods, their industries, their basic Constitutional rights. They have tried everything possible to turn things around and at this time see no other way but to join Idaho that does recognize their basic rights. You can call it babbling, I call it a cry of U.S. citizens that have reached the end of the road. Two counties will be voting on leaving Oregon this Fall and they are saying counties in the South of the state may be joining them.

This is the result of desperation of trying to get rid of leftist policies.
 
So you reside in TN. You are definitely in the minority. :lol: Beautiful state. Love to go there anytime I can. Love the Smokey Mountains and the hospitality in your area. Nothing like renting a cabin in the woods. The walks through the forest on a bed of shedding pine needles and see the rays of sunshine making its way to the floor of the forest. It is nothing to see a black bear. The babbling brooks, waterfalls just spectacular.
The Tennessee economy is thriving. Marsha Blackburn even though you do not approve of her, believes your state is doing the right thing when they are inclusive of all hardworking people. Right now your state is below the national average of unemployed at 3.3 %.

My point is somewhat serious. No matter the state, there is some large share of the population whose preferred leaders are NOT in power. We all deal with it just fine, and don't try to secede or other stupid crap like move our blue/red county to a nearby state that is at the moment controlled by those we want in power.

Point is I don't have any sympathy for them, or respect their decision. I live here and overall like it, but if my state's overwhelmingly red leadership really bothered me, I do have a choice - MOVE. I'm not entitled to everything I want, including someone other than Marsha Blackburn as Senator, and life is a series of choices. We all as adults make them, and demanding the leadership you want or else is childish IMO. If they want to live in Idaho, U-Haul will rent them a truck to get them there.
 
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