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California To Have Ethnic Studies Curriculum For High School Graduation?

This is insane. When I attended high school in LA, there was no requirement for an ethnic studies subject prior to graduation. How is this going to help graduates find jobs? In what way could this have any sort of meaningful impact? Good lord what has California turned into? :doh

IMHO, your comment is insane.

Post Trump, we will need incorporat ethics and morals in schools at all levels so we never again face a crisis as we find ourselves in now.
 
First draft of state ethnic studies curriculum '''falls short,''' board says - Los Angeles Times



This is insane. When I attended high school in LA, there was no requirement for an ethnic studies subject prior to graduation. How is this going to help graduates find jobs? In what way could this have any sort of meaningful impact? Good lord what has California turned into? :doh


I'm no expert, but shouldn't schools get a handle on teaching most kids the basics of reading, writing, arithmatic, and science first before they focus on teaching kids about how their ethnicities will impact their lives?
 
I'm no expert, but shouldn't schools get a handle on teaching most kids the basics of reading, writing, arithmatic, and science first before they focus on teaching kids about how their ethnicities will impact their lives?

Oh, the struggles that white people must face.
 
It's also what happened. I hate to break it to you but even at the time the Mexican American war was seen by many as little more than land grab by slavers desperate to keep expanding their peculiar institution. .

It's never been about "what happened". You could spend a year teaching the history of American home economics and our religious life, accurately, and still fail to grasp that just because its facts may be accurate it would still be a complete failure at explaining the history of who we were, and how we got to where we are - useless unless, of course, the curriculum designers had a different agenda (like promoting family and religious life).

So the real question is WHY, other than as noted in general history, is there a required or substitute focus on an ethnic history of four groups? What is the agenda behind promoting not ethnic, but "color", studies of four groups? Why not the history of "agriculture studies", or "business studies", or "pioneer studies", or "frontier studies", or "labor studies", or "California environment" studies or "urbanization studies", "religious studies", "western studies", etc. etc.?

You can view history from a thousand different perspectives and angles - from the wars between ranchers and farmers and homesteaders, to the IWW labor strife of the docks and central valley, to the water and land wars. Why does one choose to require a focus on just one, crabbed, perspective?

I think it obvious. The culture wars of the last several decades continue have an agenda: teach the past through the prism of 'presentism' morality plays; use race, sex, and sexual orientation ideology (specifically in this case only people of color ideology) to push a modern narrative, i.e.; that the history of California or the Nation is one of relentless oppression of people of color by the European immigrants.

For the new educators pluralism be damned, unity or assimilation is NOT on its to do list.
 
IMHO, your comment is insane.

Post Trump, we will need incorporat ethics and morals in schools at all levels so we never again face a crisis as we find ourselves in now.

The morals taught in schools for the last 30 years got us where we are today, a society that lacks respect for their parents and legal authority. They are self-centered, entitled, ill-mannered jerks who are lazy, without a work ethic and don't understand the value of earning money to take care of themselves. Don't blame Trump, this has been a long time coming due to liberals running our public education system.
 
Only for those who can't speak without being an asshole, I guess... :shrug:

But, for a limited time only (haha), I'm open to the possibility that I might be wrong. Do you have any examples that would illustrate your assertion?

The problem is one side wants to decide who the assholes are. Example: Immigration law says "Illegal alien" PC-maniacs want to change that to "Undocumented immigrants". Undocumented is a way of changing the status of people who break the law to make them sound legit, when they aren't. This kind of control of language is an attempt to subvert the legal system.

Blacks calling themselves African-Americans, while Whites have to continue to call themselves White. It's complete bull****.
 
Oh, the struggles that white people must face.

Interesting that the only mention of white people in those programs is about the evils of whiteness.

Otherwise, is it not preferable for students to know the things that will give them advantages in their future over knowing how many kinds of victims they represent?
 
IMHO, your comment is insane.

Post Trump, we will need incorporat ethics and morals in schools at all levels so we never again face a crisis as we find ourselves in now.

Wow, you talk just like those crazy evangelicals, or maybe even a Muslim imam who seeks to convert people to their ways... :doh

Imagine what you could have learned if it was part of your curriculum.

Yeah, I'd know the meaning of Cisheteropatriarchy, call short people "vertically challenged" and fat people "exercise deprived."

Gee, these are all such important concepts to learn in life... :roll:
 
Only for those who can't speak without being an asshole, I guess... :shrug:

But, for a limited time only (haha), I'm open to the possibility that I might be wrong. Do you have any examples that would illustrate your assertion?

Do you think political correctness should be taught, OlNate?
Because essentially that is exactly what is behind this CA. public school curriculum; indoctrination-no opting out.

Whatever happened to values, attitudes and manners being taught by the parents? Not good enough, huh?
The public indoctrination centers, aka public schools, are out of control with patriarchy.
 
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The problem is one side wants to decide who the assholes are. Example: Immigration law says "Illegal alien" PC-maniacs want to change that to "Undocumented immigrants". Undocumented is a way of changing the status of people who break the law to make them sound legit, when they aren't. This kind of control of language is an attempt to subvert the legal system.

Blacks calling themselves African-Americans, while Whites have to continue to call themselves White. It's complete bull****.

And we know who they are... the leftist thought police parading as "free thinkers".
 
The morals taught in schools for the last 30 years got us where we are today, a society that lacks respect for their parents and legal authority. They are self-centered, entitled, ill-mannered jerks who are lazy, without a work ethic and don't understand the value of earning money to take care of themselves. Don't blame Trump, this has been a long time coming due to liberals running our public education system.

this is drivel
 
God forbid children should learn about other cultures.

The only things school should teach is that Jesus disembarked the Arc at Plymouth Rock on the back of a dinosaur and gifted America to the pilgrims, kissing makes you pregnant and you're damned to keep the baby no matter what, and how to make money and avoid taxes.

Anything else is frankly Marxism.
 
Do you think political correctness should be taught, OlNate?
Because essentially that is exactly what is behind this CA. public school curriculum; indoctrination-no opting out.

Whatever happened to values, attitudes and manners being taught by the parents? Not good enough, huh?
The public indoctrination centers, aka public schools, are out of control with patriarchy.

Political correctness isn't values, it's etiquette. And yeah, if a kid isn't learning this at home, thanks to parents who refuse to get behind where society is going, then no, it's not good enough. :shrug: Not good enough for the kid, who carries that garbage with them into the world, where it is not welcome, and suffers as a result. :shrug:

There's simply no excuse anymore. If you go into the corporate, white collar world, and you talk like an alt-right idiot, then you will not make it. Boys clubs are evaporating, sensitivity training is everywhere, and no business wants to mess around with lawsuits, so their codes of conduct are getting more and more strict about PC. You want your kid to compete? Teach them not to be an asshole. Sadly that is beyond some parents...being partisan / ugly is more important, apparently.

I understand this is frustrating, and confusing, but let me assure you, the world does not GAF. It has changed...keep up, or get left behind. This absolutely should be mandatory learning. You'd be doing your kids a disservice by doing any less.
 
The problem is one side wants to decide who the assholes are. Example: Immigration law says "Illegal alien" PC-maniacs want to change that to "Undocumented immigrants". Undocumented is a way of changing the status of people who break the law to make them sound legit, when they aren't. This kind of control of language is an attempt to subvert the legal system.

Blacks calling themselves African-Americans, while Whites have to continue to call themselves White. It's complete bull****.

lol...for that matter:

67 Hilarious Reasons Why The English Language Is The Worst | Bored Panda

American...I do a bad job sometimes of conveying empathy, but I get what you're saying. Fact is, it honestly doesn't matter. Like, in general. The world has moved on, this isn't a discussion anymore, it's the way it is. So, your choice is teach your kids how to survive in this polite new world, or put them at a serious disadvantage by making them think that what was ok 30 years ago still is today. It's not.
 
First draft of state ethnic studies curriculum '''falls short,''' board says - Los Angeles Times




This is insane. When I attended high school in LA, there was no requirement for an ethnic studies subject prior to graduation. How is this going to help graduates find jobs? In what way could this have any sort of meaningful impact? Good lord what has California turned into? :doh
Democrats are obviously in charge of these schools now and they fully intend to make lying leftist propaganda an integral part of the socialistic brainwashing of school kids.
 
First draft of state ethnic studies curriculum '''falls short,''' board says - Los Angeles Times




This is insane. When I attended high school in LA, there was no requirement for an ethnic studies subject prior to graduation. How is this going to help graduates find jobs? In what way could this have any sort of meaningful impact? Good lord what has California turned into? :doh

I still live in California. You really don't want to know what California has turned into just keep your good memories about how it use to be, before it was taken over by the insane asylum patients.

Roseann:)
 
Political correctness isn't values, it's etiquette. And yeah, if a kid isn't learning this at home, thanks to parents who refuse to get behind where society is going, then no, it's not good enough. :shrug: Not good enough for the kid, who carries that garbage with them into the world, where it is not welcome, and suffers as a result. :shrug:

There's simply no excuse anymore. If you go into the corporate, white collar world, and you talk like an alt-right idiot, then you will not make it. Boys clubs are evaporating, sensitivity training is everywhere, and no business wants to mess around with lawsuits, so their codes of conduct are getting more and more strict about PC. You want your kid to compete? Teach them not to be an asshole. Sadly that is beyond some parents...being partisan / ugly is more important, apparently.

I understand this is frustrating, and confusing, but let me assure you, the world does not GAF. It has changed...keep up, or get left behind. This absolutely should be mandatory learning. You'd be doing your kids a disservice by doing any less.

I disagree. Political correctness is fascism with a smile on its face.
 
Political correctness isn't values, it's etiquette. And yeah, if a kid isn't learning this at home, thanks to parents who refuse to get behind where society is going, then no, it's not good enough. :shrug: Not good enough for the kid, who carries that garbage with them into the world, where it is not welcome, and suffers as a result. :shrug:

There's simply no excuse anymore. If you go into the corporate, white collar world, and you talk like an alt-right idiot, then you will not make it. Boys clubs are evaporating, sensitivity training is everywhere, and no business wants to mess around with lawsuits, so their codes of conduct are getting more and more strict about PC. You want your kid to compete? Teach them not to be an asshole. Sadly that is beyond some parents...being partisan / ugly is more important, apparently.

I understand this is frustrating, and confusing, but let me assure you, the world does not GAF. It has changed...keep up, or get left behind. This absolutely should be mandatory learning. You'd be doing your kids a disservice by doing any less.

You just described the Borg villainous hive Mentality and advised that Resistance Is Futile.

Roseann:)
 
IMHO, your comment is insane.

Post Trump, we will need incorporat ethics and morals in schools at all levels so we never again face a crisis as we find ourselves in now.

Except prior to schools becoming social indoctrination centers of popular PC leftwing old hippyism, this situation didn't exist. Schools are not solving it, they are escalating it. Schools demand every student be mindless clones of no individually and you just recite whatever they are told to recite. Since that is contrary to human nature, it backfires.
 
You just described the Borg villainous hive Mentality and advised that Resistance Is Futile.

Roseann:)

:thumbs: EXACTLY. The core is pure socialism/communism for which everyone BUT the rich and powerful were born indebted to serve the hive as a sacrificial worker bee, nothing else.

In this they will make it very clear no one can resist the power of government and that the government should crush anyone who does not stay within the box the government assigns to each person including what they believe, feel, say, do, don't do - all emotions, even when it is acceptable to smile, when each must cry... "the hive mentality" for which "resistance if futile."
 
:thumbs: EXACTLY. The core is pure socialism/communism for which everyone BUT the rich and powerful were born indebted to serve the hive as a sacrificial worker bee, nothing else.

In this they will make it very clear no one can resist the power of government and that the government should crush anyone who does not stay within the box the government assigns to each person including what they believe, feel, say, do, don't do - all emotions, even when it is acceptable to smile, when each must cry... "the hive mentality" for which "resistance if futile."

And the best modern version of that kind of power that exists today is North Korea.

N.K. has achieved the ultimate take over of every person and the N.K. people are living under total subjugation to the power of an unforgiving "resistance is futile" form of government.

Roseann:)
 
First draft of state ethnic studies curriculum '''falls short,''' board says - Los Angeles Times




This is insane. When I attended high school in LA, there was no requirement for an ethnic studies subject prior to graduation. How is this going to help graduates find jobs? In what way could this have any sort of meaningful impact? Good lord what has California turned into? :doh

Things are different now than when we were in school, bud.

Honestly, I don’t see anything wrong with it if it can get the curriculum straightened out.

I learned about contact hypothesis in one of my psych classes. The root of it is that many people who had issue with people of color, people of other ethnicities, other faith, etc, often felt differently if they were placed into a situation where they were in close contact with the other person. Like in a room with a black man, they would talk to him, realize he was a good person and might start to see all people of color differently. It’s a pretty strong school of thought that follows it.

Guess what I am saying is that sometimes you fear what you don’t know. Teach these kids about other races, other cultures, etc, and maybe they will look at things differently.

Or not. :)
 
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