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California Ranked as #1 State with Worst Air Quality

Lursa said:
Anything on this?
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Some regulation is absolutely needed, and businesses in CA do flout the laws, opting to take a fine instead. Such as companies that pump toxic materials into major rivers. But overall, regulating our way off owning the list of top polluted cities isn't possible if the population continues to swell.
 
truthatallcost said:
Some regulation is absolutely needed, and businesses in CA do flout the laws, opting to take a fine instead. Such as companies that pump toxic materials into major rivers. But overall, regulating our way off owning the list of top polluted cities isn't possible if the population continues to swell.
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Make up your mind, why do you think those companies flout the laws? To save $. The other choices are usually fire people or close down.

They need better enforcement of the regulations then...get that $ in fines, force the companies to clean up. At the expense of jobs.

So you're ok with that, right? It's the right balance for everyone overall? Clean air for some jobs.

I think so.
 
Lursa said:
Make up your mind, why do you think those companies flout the laws? To save $. The other choices are usually fire people or close down.

They need better enforcement of the regulations then...get that $ in fines, force the companies to clean up. At the expense of jobs.

So you're ok with that, right? It's the right balance for everyone overall? Clean air for some jobs.

I think so.
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A large portion of the state is a time bomb, namely the central valley region, which spans all the way from Redding to Bakersfield, if you choose to look at it on a map. No amount of regulation can change the central valley's fate at this point, due to plain old overpopulation. The solution was never to regulate companies out of business, rather it was responsible planning, which didn't hinge on turning California into an overcrowded sea of humans, in exchange for short-term economic & political gain.

Putting companies, and perhaps entire industries out of existence in order to compensate for the state's irresponsible management is a case of too little, too late.
 
truthatallcost said:
A large portion of the state is a time bomb, namely the central valley region, which spans all the way from Redding to Bakersfield, if you choose to look at it on a map. No amount of regulation can change the central valley's fate at this point, due to plain old overpopulation. The solution was never to regulate companies out of business, rather it was responsible planning, which didn't hinge on turning California into an overcrowded sea of humans, in exchange for short-term economic & political gain.

Putting companies, and perhaps entire industries out of existence in order to compensate for the state's irresponsible management is a case of too little, too late.
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What happened to the responsible planning? And where is that discussed publicly, sources? They would be older of course.
 
Lursa said:
What happened to the responsible planning? And where is that discussed publicly, sources? They would be older of course.
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There hasn't been responsible planning in California in my lifetime. That's why a quarter of America's homeless are in California, the most polluted American cities are in California, the state with the highest real poverty level is California. You don't suppose poor planning played a key role in these facts existing? Silicon Valley originated in the 1930's, and props up the state's budget resources, so Dems can't and shouldn't claim responsibility for the success of that industry.
 
truthatallcost said:
There hasn't been responsible planning in California in my lifetime. That's why a quarter of America's homeless are in California, the most polluted American cities are in California, the state with the highest real poverty level is California. You don't suppose poor planning played a key role in these facts existing? Silicon Valley originated in the 1930's, and props up the state's budget resources, so Dems can't and shouldn't claim responsibility for the success of that industry.
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So you originally supported all the necessary regulations to actually prevent the damage? It was always costly and cost/would cost jobs.
 
truthatallcost said:
California ranked as No.1 state with worst air quality: report

7 of the top 10 American cities with bad air quality are in California. It doesn't really matter who believes in climate change and who doesn't, when the state that leans the furthest left both treats climate change as a religion, and pollutes the environment with irresponsible policies. If the poster child for blue state America can't even get it right when it comes to important issues like clean air, then who can? I'm both conservative, and concerned about preserving the environment.

Question: Of the Democrats on this site who hope to win future elections by way of population demographics change, and overpopulation, who amongst you will actually want to live in the utopian society you're scheming for when it wreaks havoc on the environment? Is it possible to care about climate change and also support ideas that will destroy the environment?
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And..... Calif has some of the strictest car emissions REQUIREMENTS there is


Oh my.....
 
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