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California State Regulators Want a Surcharge on Text Messages

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Texting your sweetheart that you’re on your way home? California may soon charge you for that.

This is no LOL matter, critics say.

State regulators have been ginning up a scheme to charge a fee for text messaging on mobile phones to help support programs that make phone service accessible to the poor. The wireless industry and business groups have been working to defeat the proposal, now scheduled for a vote next month by the California Public Utilities Commission.

“It’s a dumb idea,” said Jim Wunderman, president of the Bay Area Council business-sponsored advocacy group. “This is how conversations take place in this day and age, and it’s almost like saying there should be a tax on the conversations we have.”

It’s unclear how much individual consumers would be asked to pay their wireless carrier for texting services under the proposal. But it likely would be billed as a flat surcharge per customer — one of those irksome fees at the bottom of your wireless bill — not a fee per text.

Business groups, including the Bay Area Council, California Chamber of Commerce and Silicon Valley Leadership Group and others opposing the idea, calculated the new charges for wireless consumers could total about $44.5 million a year.

But they add that under the regulators’ proposal the charge could be applied retroactively for five years — which they call “an alarming precedent” — and could amount to a bill of more than $220 million for California consumers.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/12/11/omg-now-california-wants-to-tax-text-messaging/

Life in a one party blue state. Money grubbing state officials wish to issue a surcharge on people's conversations now, to help 'poor people'. This is one issue where we must stand with the big telecommunications companies, and oppose the state.

If this passes, what's next? Taxes on toilet flushing (Jerry Brown already tried). Taxes on breathing?
 
Liberals never met a tax they didn't like.
 
Life in a one party blue state. Money grubbing state officials wish to issue a surcharge on people's conversations now, to help 'poor people'. This is one issue where we must stand with the big telecommunications companies, and oppose the state.

If this passes, what's next? Taxes on toilet flushing (Jerry Brown already tried). Taxes on breathing?

Interesting - so others out-of-state get charged nothing but California's must pay. I guess the spirit of net neutrality on payment for services doesn't apply to the blue state hypocrites running Sacramento.
 
Paper straws can't fix this?
 
Life in a one party blue state. Money grubbing state officials wish to issue a surcharge on people's conversations now, to help 'poor people'. This is one issue where we must stand with the big telecommunications companies, and oppose the state.

If this passes, what's next? Taxes on toilet flushing (Jerry Brown already tried). Taxes on breathing?

Not to mention when the voters object and get a proposition on the ballot to overturn some idea, they make the wording unintelligible to all but the most well read and motivated voter.

You can crap on the sidewalk, but don't you dare ask for a straw.
 
Life in a one party blue state. Money grubbing state officials wish to issue a surcharge on people's conversations now, to help 'poor people'. This is one issue where we must stand with the big telecommunications companies, and oppose the state.

If this passes, what's next? Taxes on toilet flushing (Jerry Brown already tried). Taxes on breathing?

How much more evidence that we need that American liberals are con artists; nothing but a front group for big businesses trying to stick it to the worker?

Granted, establishment Republicans are just as bad.
 
How much more evidence that we need that American liberals are con artists; nothing but a front group for big businesses trying to stick it to the worker?

Granted, establishment Republicans are just as bad.

Just as I'd expected, this thread drew zero interest from anyone on the Democratic side. Maybe they support such repressive measures as taxing text messages? Can't tell, they'll only comment when a thread includes Trump, or makes some group they hate look bad.
 
Just as I'd expected, this thread drew zero interest from anyone on the Democratic side. Maybe they support such repressive measures as taxing text messages? Can't tell, they'll only comment when a thread includes Trump, or makes some group they hate look bad.

Popular politics today is little more than a reality TV show. It's completely soured me on democracy.
 
Interesting - so others out-of-state get charged nothing but California's must pay. I guess the spirit of net neutrality on payment for services doesn't apply to the blue state hypocrites running Sacramento.

Residing in California, I'd hope new Gov Newsom has better sense than Brown had in taxing everything he could. But I'm decidedly skeptical these days.
 
Popular politics today is little more than a reality TV show. It's completely soured me on democracy.

Beating up on Trump consumes so many people now, there is no time or energy for any other activity.

It is the thirst for sadism that troubles me more than the triviality.
 
Was just in CA last week, San Fran, Napa. Just gorgeous, great weather.

And so messed up legally I couldnt ever stand to live there...and I'm mostly liberal.
 
Not to mention when the voters object and get a proposition on the ballot to overturn some idea, they make the wording unintelligible to all but the most well read and motivated voter.

You can crap on the sidewalk, but don't you dare ask for a straw.

You can also live on the sidewalk rent free, thanks to the 9th Circuit. I have to occasionally step over people in the downtown area here, because their right to sleep on the sidewalk is more important than folks trying to get to work on time.
 
You can also live on the sidewalk rent free, thanks to the 9th Circuit. I have to occasionally step over people in the downtown area here, because their right to sleep on the sidewalk is more important than folks trying to get to work on time.

Up here the street people have been pissing in and ****ting in very nice flower boxes that had been set up on sidewalks over the years, which is expensive to clean up, so they are removing them.

America, a nation going in reverse.
 
Residing in California, I'd hope new Gov Newsom has better sense than Brown had in taxing everything he could. But I'm decidedly skeptical these days.

Brown didn't tax everything he could.

You don't seem very aware of what happens here.
 
Residing in California, I'd hope new Gov Newsom has better sense than Brown had in taxing everything he could. But I'm decidedly skeptical these days.

With a 160 Billion dollar unfunded liability in state pensions, its only a matter of time before the govs house goes on ABNB. Its a bit ironic that a state that squeals over tier pricing of data by actual providers, will be the first to support it IF the leaching GOVERNMENT wants to do it.
 
Brown didn't tax everything he could.

You don't seem very aware of what happens here.

That's true. Among the things he didn't tax:

Cat neutering.
Rain.
Gum wrappers
Canary bird droppings
Jack in the box decoder rings.
Tree sap
Used condoms

Great Governor.
 
Life in a one party blue state. Money grubbing state officials wish to issue a surcharge on people's conversations now, to help 'poor people'. This is one issue where we must stand with the big telecommunications companies, and oppose the state.

If this passes, what's next? Taxes on toilet flushing (Jerry Brown already tried). Taxes on breathing?
Ever hear the Beatle song "Taxman"? California thinks it's a documentary.
 
As all socialists do, they've run out of other people's money, and are looking for more from new sources of taxation, and any taxation will do.
 
Brown didn't tax everything he could.

You don't seem very aware of what happens here.

Brown was a fairly tightfisted governor. However he built up a fat surplus to insulate the state against the next recession. (IOW, he taxed people beyond the governebts needs) Word is, Newsome is salavating to spend that money, plus there are other tax increases in the pipe line.

California’s middle class weath is in its real estate, which leaves the lower classes out. The “Old” Californians have cashed out and left the state leaving a politically disengaged electorate.

BTW:
If you were to flee California on January 14th 2019:
The price of renting a 20 ft U haul truck from Sacramento 95821 to Dallas 75220 is *$3199*
The price of the same truck from Dallas 75220 to Sacramento 95821 *$1126.00*

The reason is UHaul has to pay to ship those vehicles back to 95821 empty.
 
Brown was a fairly tightfisted governor. However he built up a fat surplus to insulate the state against the next recession. (IOW, he taxed people beyond the governebts needs) Word is, Newsome is salavating to spend that money, plus there are other tax increases in the pipe line.

Brown has always been a tightfisted governor. It had nothing to do with taxing people beyond our needs. Newsome isn't doing that.
California’s middle class weath is in its real estate, which leaves the lower classes out. The “Old” Californians have cashed out and left the state leaving a politically disengaged electorate.

You can thank the ultra-conservative Prop 13. The 'old' Californians are still here. My family got here before 1870 and are all still around. The state is completely blue and likes being that way.
BTW:
If you were to flee California on January 14th 2019:
The price of renting a 20 ft U haul truck from Sacramento 95821 to Dallas 75220 is *$3199*
The price of the same truck from Dallas 75220 to Sacramento 95821 *$1126.00*

The reason is UHaul has to pay to ship those vehicles back to 95821 empty.

Irrelevant. Life here is great. Some people are just too damned lazy to take advantage of what we have here.
 
Brown has always been a tightfisted governor. It had nothing to do with taxing people beyond our needs. Newsome isn't doing that.

You can thank the ultra-conservative Prop 13. The 'old' Californians are still here. My family got here before 1870 and are all still around. The state is completely blue and likes being that way.

Irrelevant. Life here is great. Some people are just too damned lazy to take advantage of what we have here.

Open your eyes. Stop looking through the LA goggles. Sure California isn't horrible, but it could be way better.
 
Open your eyes. Stop looking through the LA goggles. Sure California isn't horrible, but it could be way better.

My eyes have been opened for years and don't see through any such googles. I've been all over this state, unlike you, and know it from top to bottom, also unlike you.
 
That's true. Among the things he didn't tax:

Cat neutering.
Rain.
Gum wrappers
Canary bird droppings
Jack in the box decoder rings.
Tree sap
Used condoms

Great Governor.

Wait. He didn't tax rain?

Various cities here in Colorado did that for a while. They charged people...and businesses at a higher rate...for the rain that fell on their property. They also made it illegal for property owners to collect that rain.
 
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