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Seattle reverses itself on Homeless Head Tax

Hawkeye10 said:
Boeing HQ left 2001...it's not like they were not warned.
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Leave it to socialists to not learn from history. Might be why socialism keeps coming back like herpes.
 
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I'm always trying to figure out what bonkers thing Seattle is up to next. The sugar tax mismanagement followed by this head tax stuff. It's like they don't understand economics and that actions have reactions and repercussions. :/ I just keep worrying other counties and cities might try to copy them and spread a cascade of stupidity around the PNW.
 
TTB said:
I'm always trying to figure out what bonkers thing Seattle is up to next. The sugar tax mismanagement followed by this head tax stuff. It's like they don't understand economics and that actions have reactions and repercussions. :/ I just keep worrying other counties and cities might try to copy them and spread a cascade of stupidity around the PNW.
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Move Seattle is one of the bigger demonstrations of incompetence ( Many say dishonesty too) of the city, and while it is not Seattle it does suffer from the same general maladies it looks like folks are beginning to wake up to how poorly Sound Transit is run. WsDot/Amtrak/Sound Transit dumping a Cascades train with a months old locomotive onto Five killing people and causing who knows how much economic damage by closing Five for about three days (they dont seem to want to give us an estimate on that.....shocking I know) about sums up the competence of these clowns around these parts.
 
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This city is developing a habit of 100% inflation very 7 years on their levies. They are going to try to do it again this fall.

This is not a sustainable plan folks,

he Seattle City Council on Monday approved a $636 million, seven-year property tax levy for the November ballot, a measure which combines, renews and more than doubles the size of two expiring levies that it is replacing.

The 2018 Families, Education, Preschool and Promise levy will cost the median Seattle homeowner $248 each year, up from $136 a year under the two present levies. The city is using $665,000 as the median price of a Seattle home in 2019.

The fear that Seattle voters would turn on the big education levy was a factor in last week's decision to abruptly repeal the $275-per-employee "head tax" that the city had levied on its large employers.
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The $636 million levy would replace the $236 million Families and Education Levy -- which itself was doubled from $131 million the last time it went before voters -- and the $58 million, four-year Seattle Preschool Levy.
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Durkan appeared of a mind to show mercy on the city's levy-burdened taxpayers when she ran for Mayor last year.

She appeared to promise that levy hikes would be reserved for urgent mental health needs.
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https://www.seattlepi.com/local/pol...ig-636-million-property-tax-levy-13005344.php



Same old ****, different day.
 
Socialism is expensive. Eventually you run out of other people's money.
 
Every town and city should give their homeless a one-way bus ticket to Seattle, a $20 bill for the trip and a $250 voucher that can only be cashed in Seattle. That way everyone in Seattle can be even happier as a win-win program.
 
Add a $100 voucher for a Seattle liquor store and a $100 voucher to a Seattle pot shop as incentive for the homeless in other cities and towns to move to wonderful generous Seattle. A win-win for everyone. Every city and town that doesn't want homeless tent cities loses their homeless and Seattle that wants them has them. Everyone is happy this way.
 
joko104 said:
Every town and city should give their homeless a one-way bus ticket to Seattle, a $20 bill for the trip and a $250 voucher that can only be cashed in Seattle. That way everyone in Seattle can be even happier as a win-win program.
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joko104 said:
Add a $100 voucher for a Seattle liquor store and a $100 voucher to a Seattle pot shop as incentive for the homeless in other cities and towns to move to wonderful generous Seattle. A win-win for everyone. Every city and town that doesn't want homeless tent cities loses their homeless and Seattle that wants them has them. Everyone is happy this way.
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You get more of what you subsidize. I'll let you draw your own conclusions as to what Seattle is subsidizing.
 
eohrnberger said:
You get more of what you subsidize. I'll let you draw your own conclusions as to what Seattle is subsidizing.
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We should do the initial subsidizing of the homeless all moving to wonderful Seattle. In the long run that would save cities and towns tens of thousands to millions of dollars a year, while Seattle gets all the alcoholic and drug addict homeless bums they so want to spend $100,000 a year on each - meaning government employees and consultants who pay for the political campaigns of their benefactors in the Democratic Party pocketing $90,000 a year off of each one.

The rich white liberals who run Seattle can afford it and would be delighted to share their wealth with millions of bums, alcoholics and drug addicts. The rest of us should help them meet their humanitarian goals to the maximum possible. We could easily send 300 to 400 just from our small city.
 
It reminds me of an audit of San Diego's expenditures of $4,000 each the federal government provided for each child in foster care to the San Diego city social program. Of that $4,000, $600 went to each foster parent and $3,400 went into the pockets of San Diego government employees and consultants.

The more homeless Seattle has, the more people directly and indirectly in Seattle government personally profit. They aren't spending $100,000 on each homeless person. They are spending $90,000 on themselves for each homeless person.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Move Seattle is one of the bigger demonstrations of incompetence ( Many say dishonesty too) of the city, and while it is not Seattle it does suffer from the same general maladies it looks like folks are beginning to wake up to how poorly Sound Transit is run. WsDot/Amtrak/Sound Transit dumping a Cascades train with a months old locomotive onto Five killing people and causing who knows how much economic damage by closing Five for about three days (they dont seem to want to give us an estimate on that.....shocking I know) about sums up the competence of these clowns around these parts.
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When it comes to the homeless, Seattle and San Francisco are on the same page, they allow pissing and ****ting in the streets and leave all their drug needles lying around. Socialism at it's best.
 
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Seattle created the problem and the city council woman is upset they cant dump their problems on AMAZON?

Sounds about right, actually.
 
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Seattle created the problem and the city council woman is upset they cant dump their problems on AMAZON?

Sounds about right, actually.
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But this does show how the super rich like Amazon do control the Democratic Party. Seattle backed off Amazon to again instead dump more property taxes on ordinary people instead.
 
joko104 said:
But this does show how the super rich like Amazon do control the Democratic Party. Seattle backed off Amazon to again instead dump more property taxes on ordinary people instead.
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I think its more a case of Amazon declining to be responsible for the ****ed up state of affairs and they probably made them a great counter offer...like..."hey...kill the tax or **** off...we'll go somewhere else."
 
VanceMack said:
I think its more a case of Amazon declining to be responsible for the ****ed up state of affairs and they probably made them a great counter offer...like..."hey...kill the tax or **** off...we'll go somewhere else."
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Of course that's what Amazon did. However, ordinary people have no such muscle so it will become still another tax dumped on them. BUT that's what they vote for, so they have no complaints. Seattle is one of those white liberal, white-guilt and white-flight East Coast communities.

They use zoning to assure poor people, particularly poor minorities, can afford to live in their upper class white neighbors - while ranting about how everyone else is racists. Very hypocritical and disgusting. But we know that virtually all rich white liberal Democrats live in virtually 100% white walled communities.
 
What was Seattle's city council thinking? Amazon and Google are the largest corporations in the USA and among the largest on earth. They don't pay taxes. Every Democrat official should know that super rich people don't pay taxes. Super rich people pay politicians to not make them pay taxes. Besides, with only $150,000,000,000.00 Jeff Bezos can't afford an extra $275 per employee, particularly with his divorce going on.

To make this work they would had to exempt really rich corporations and really rich people and targeted mom-and-pop businesses - or better yet working people by instead raising sales tax. If there is one thing the Democratic Party agrees with as much as the Republican Party is that super rich people and super rich people don't pay taxes. They pay politicians like they do all their other employees.

All Seattle has to do is figure out how instead to tax the middle class for homeless people. That'd sail right thru in Seattle.
 
joko104 said:
What was Seattle's city council thinking? Amazon and Google are the largest corporations in the USA and among the largest on earth. They don't pay taxes. Every Democrat official should know that super rich people don't pay taxes. Super rich people pay politicians to not make them pay taxes. Besides, with only $150,000,000,000.00 Jeff Bezos can't afford an extra $275 per employee, particularly with his divorce going on.

To make this work they would had to exempt really rich corporations and really rich people and targeted mom-and-pop businesses - or better yet working people by instead raising sales tax. If there is one thing the Democratic Party agrees with as much as the Republican Party is that super rich people and super rich people don't pay taxes. They pay politicians like they do all their other employees.

All Seattle has to do is figure out how instead to tax the middle class for homeless people. That'd sail right thru in Seattle.
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From the link in #46:

. . . The city council insists that new tax revenues are necessary, including a head tax on large employers, but only 7 percent of Seattle voters think that the city is “not spending enough to really solve the problem.” For a famously progressive city, this is a remarkable shift in public opinion.
Despite this growing consensus, the activist class is pushing back. According to leaked documents, the City of Seattle and its allies have retained a crisis-communications firm to discredit Johnson and insist, notwithstanding all evidence to the contrary, that “Seattle is making progress to end homelessness, and proven solutions are working.” It’s quite a strategy: Seattle mayor Jenny Durkan is using taxpayer resources to attack a respected local journalist and convince taxpayers that they shouldn’t trust their own experience.
The city’s nonprofit and academic partners—mainstays of the homeless-industrial complex—have also launched coordinated attacks against the critics. Timothy Harris, director of Real Change News, has argued that grassroots neighborhood groups like Speak Out Seattle and labor unions like the Iron Workers Local 86 who opposed the city’s head tax are “alt-right” white supremacists, bigots, and fascists. Catherine Hinrichsen, director of the Project on Family Homelessness at Seattle University, accused Johnson of “hate-mongering” and spreading “fear.”
After dictating homelessness policy for a generation, the activist class is losing the narrative—and this accounts for its increasingly desperate counterattacks. As their support among voters erodes and principled journalists like Johnson break the silence about homelessness, they fall back on branding their concerned neighbors “bigots,” “fascists,” and “white supremacists.” It’s not working the way it used to. In Seattle, a reckoning on homelessness may not be far off.
 
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