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    Re: bill to make swearing to god mandatory in Colorado?

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    http://leg.colorado.gov/sites/defaul...18a_242_01.pdf

    SECTION 1. In Colorado Revised Statutes, 24-12-101, amend
    2 as amended by House Bill 18-1138 (1) as follows:
    3 24-12-101. Form of oath or affirmation for public office -
    4 requirements for oath or affirmation. (1) When a person is required to
    5 take an oath or affirmation before the person enters upon the discharge of
    6 a public office or position, the form of the oath or affirmation is as
    7 follows:
    8 I [name], do [select swear BY THE EVERLIVING GOD or
    9 affirm] that I will support the constitution of the United
    10 States, the constitution of the state of Colorado, and the
    11 laws of the state of Colorado, and will faithfully perform
    12 the duties of the office of [name of office or position] upon
    13 which I am about to enter to the best of my ability
    Ummm this is much to do about nothing. In case you missed it: https://openstates.org/co/bills/2018...1138/#billtext

    The bill signed into law by the Governor was revised. http://leg.colorado.gov/sites/defaul...138_signed.pdf

    They amended 24-12-101 to remove the part about an ever living god. But make it clear that you can still swear by that ever living god if you choose to.
    The revised version states: "IT IS LAWFUL FOR A PERSON ELECTING TO SWEAR AN OATH TO "SWEAR BY
    THE EVERLIVING GOD" IF THAT PERSON SO CHOOSES."


    The actual oath/affirmation reads like this:
    "I [NAME], DO [SELECT SWEAR OR AFFIRM] THAT I WILL
    SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, THE
    CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF COLORADO, AND THE LAWS
    OF THE STATE OF COLORADO, AND WILL FAITHFULLY PERFORM
    THE DUTIES OF THE OFFICE OF [NAME OF OFFICE OR POSITION]
    UPON WHICH I AM ABOUT TO ENTER TO THE BEST OF MY
    ABILITY. "

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    Re: bill to make swearing to god mandatory in Colorado?

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    http://leg.colorado.gov/sites/defaul...18a_242_01.pdf

    SECTION 1. In Colorado Revised Statutes, 24-12-101, amend
    2 as amended by House Bill 18-1138 (1) as follows:
    3 24-12-101. Form of oath or affirmation for public office -
    4 requirements for oath or affirmation. (1) When a person is required to
    5 take an oath or affirmation before the person enters upon the discharge of
    6 a public office or position, the form of the oath or affirmation is as
    7 follows:
    8 I [name], do [select swear BY THE EVERLIVING GOD or
    9 affirm] that I will support the constitution of the United
    10 States, the constitution of the state of Colorado, and the
    11 laws of the state of Colorado, and will faithfully perform
    12 the duties of the office of [name of office or position] upon
    13 which I am about to enter to the best of my ability
    The free exercise and enjoyment of religious profession and worship, without discrimination, shall forever hereafter be guaranteed; and no person shall be denied any civil or political right, privilege or capacity, on account of his opinions concerning religion; but the liberty of conscience hereby secured shall not be construed to dispense with oaths or affirmations, excuse acts of licentiousness or justify practices inconsistent with the good order, peace or safety of the state. No person shall be required to attend or support any ministry or place of worship, religious sect or denomination against his consent. Nor shall any preference be given by law to any religious denomination or mode of worship.

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    Re: bill to make swearing to god mandatory in Colorado?

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    http://leg.colorado.gov/sites/defaul...18a_242_01.pdf

    SECTION 1. In Colorado Revised Statutes, 24-12-101, amend
    2 as amended by House Bill 18-1138 (1) as follows:
    3 24-12-101. Form of oath or affirmation for public office -
    4 requirements for oath or affirmation. (1) When a person is required to
    5 take an oath or affirmation before the person enters upon the discharge of
    6 a public office or position, the form of the oath or affirmation is as
    7 follows:
    8 I [name], do [select swear BY THE EVERLIVING GOD or
    9 affirm] that I will support the constitution of the United
    10 States, the constitution of the state of Colorado, and the
    11 laws of the state of Colorado, and will faithfully perform
    12 the duties of the office of [name of office or position] upon
    13 which I am about to enter to the best of my ability
    It appears you can either swear to God, or support the constitution.
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    Re: bill to make swearing to god mandatory in Colorado?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I, Bodi, affirm that this thread is a FAIL.
    ya id agree to that

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    Re: bill to make swearing to god mandatory in Colorado?

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    http://leg.colorado.gov/sites/defaul...18a_242_01.pdf

    SECTION 1. In Colorado Revised Statutes, 24-12-101, amend
    2 as amended by House Bill 18-1138 (1) as follows:
    3 24-12-101. Form of oath or affirmation for public office -
    4 requirements for oath or affirmation. (1) When a person is required to
    5 take an oath or affirmation before the person enters upon the discharge of
    6 a public office or position, the form of the oath or affirmation is as
    7 follows:
    8 I [name], do [select swear BY THE EVERLIVING GOD or
    9 affirm] that I will support the constitution of the United
    10 States, the constitution of the state of Colorado, and the
    11 laws of the state of Colorado, and will faithfully perform
    12 the duties of the office of [name of office or position] upon
    13 which I am about to enter to the best of my ability
    "Separation of church and state"?
    It's nothing more than X's and O's.

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    Re: bill to make swearing to god mandatory in Colorado?

    Did anyone who framed this bill stop to consider that "THE EVERLIVING GOD" instructs us not to swear at all (Matt 5: 34-37)?

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    Re: bill to make swearing to god mandatory in Colorado?

    Since it allows "affirm" it isn't as radical as one would think and passes First Amendment muster.

    Interesting that it states:

    "that I will support the constitution of the United
    10 States, the constitution of the state of Colorado, and the
    11 laws of the state of Colorado..."

    but not the laws of the United States.
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    Re: bill to make swearing to god mandatory in Colorado?

    I was under the impression that The Constitution was about America, not about some God
    I cheated on ALL three of my wives but most importantly I brought my Bible, OK - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZwpTdARrC8

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