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FieldTheorist said:
I detest Antifa, but can you link to me an article where Antifa drove a car through neo-nazis and white supremacists and murdered a person/people? That's not a serious question, because we both know the answer to that is "No." Antifa never enslaved people, Antifa never falsely imprisoned people to force them into labor, Antifa never lynched people, Antifa didn't forcibly relocate millions of people, and Antifa didn't ethnically cleanse 95% of a local ethnic population. The same cannot be said of white nationalists and Nazis. Antifa might be violent ****heads, but it's dangerous and historically ignorant to morally equate the two.
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The tragedy in Charlottesville was perpetrated by one person, one mentally ill person, Alex Fields, Jr.
 
JamesBY said:
Only you are talking about deplorables. I am taking about white supremacy, white nationalist, a white ethno-state, nativism, uber nationalist, ethnocentrism, and antidemocracy.

You won't deny them, then you support them.
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Your post #3:
Why all the attention? You are, I am sure, reading their numbers quite wrongly. If you lump everyone in who is uber nationalist, nativist, ethnocentric, racialistic, antidemocracy, and desire a white ethno-state, then you probably have 20 to 25% of Trump's base falling into that group.
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You are talking about deplorable political belief, and equating them to those who support Trump as I said. I don't have to condemn such people to satisfy you. I have no truck with extremist political beliefs of any sort. I do that so I can look in the mirror and to honor those who've fought against such things when they were truly a threat.
 
humbolt said:
Your post #3:

You are talking about deplorable political belief, and equating them to those who support Trump as I said. I don't have to condemn such people to satisfy you. I have no truck with extremist political beliefs of any sort. I do that so I can look in the mirror and to honor those who've fought against such things when they were truly a threat.
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Your logic is off. I said they make up about 25% of his base not all of his base as you seem to be suggesting that I said, which in fact, yea, verily, is not the truth.
 
JamesBY said:
Your logic is off. I said they make up about 25% of his base not all of his base as you seem to be suggesting that I said, which in fact, yea, verily, is not the truth.
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You have no basis on which to claim such people make up any part of his base. Some probably do, but you have no metric by which to measure. It's a baseless and frivolous claim of no merit. When you make such a claim, you're intentionally smearing innocent people for political ends. Moreover, while some white supremacists do claim to support Trump, Trump - regrettable though he may be at times - has made it clear he doesn't support them or their whacky beliefs.
 
humbolt said:
You have no basis on which to claim such people make up any part of his base. Some probably do, but you have no metric by which to measure. It's a baseless and frivolous claim of no merit. When you make such a claim, you're intentionally smearing innocent people for political ends. Moreover, while some white supremacists do claim to support Trump, Trump - regrettable though he may be at times - has made it clear he doesn't support them or their whacky beliefs.
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Now you shift from "all" to the "25%". You have no metric to say I am wrong. My numbers are pretty right on, I think, and those who deny them, we know what they are about. Trump needs to say more in denouncement of the scoundrels and get off the "people on both sides" lunacy. The Antifa, as bad as they may be, are putting themselves between the Alt Right and those they wish to hurt in the name of America. Good God, say the righteous.
 
JamesBY said:
Now you shift from "all" to the "25%". You have no metric to say I am wrong. My numbers are pretty right on, I think, and those who deny them, we know what they are about. Trump needs to say more in denouncement of the scoundrels and get off the "people on both sides" lunacy. The Antifa, as bad as they may be, are putting themselves between the Alt Right and those they wish to hurt in the name of America. Good God, say the righteous.
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Have you provided any proof that your numbers are accurate?
 
JamesBY said:
Now you shift from "all" to the "25%". My numbers are pretty right on, and those who deny them, we know what they are about. Trump needs to say more in denouncement of the scoundrels and get off the "people on both sides" lunacy. The Antifa, as bad as they may be, are putting themselves between the Alt Right and those they wish to hurt in the name of America. Good God, say the righteous.
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Bull crap. Post something by a reputable source to back your numbers or just quit. I'm not shifting anything. You're the one making the ridiculous claim and demanding some oath of fealty or something. I owe you nothing, and nobody else does either. And Antifa is a bunch of punks who ought to be locked up right along with the white supremacist nuts. One is not better than the other. On my moral scale, they're both at the bottom. I can't be bothered with the effort to differentiate between one slug and another.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Hmm... Is that the same kind of "logic" that says there are far more incidents of domestic abuse among blue collar males than among professional football players? When comparing two groups it helps to take into account the size of those groups and the number of years (decades) that they have been in existence.
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I agree with you, from a statistical perspective, but from a practical perspective, assuming your point is that white supremacist groups have greater numbers and have been active longer, doesn't that also confirm that white supremacists are still the greater problem? Just wondering how this is a counter point, and not an affirmation...
 
JamesBY said:
Why all the attention? You are, I am sure, reading their numbers quite wrongly. If you lump everyone in who is uber nationalist, nativist, ethnocentric, racialistic, antidemocracy, and desire a white ethno-state, then you probably have 20 to 25% of Trump's base falling into that group.
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I think it's more like 125% because a lot of us brown hating honkeys don't support Trump openly..we do it on the down low so you don't even know who we are. If I were you I'd highly recommend just hating on everyone who isn't you because you can never tell where us haters are and then one day, BAM! We take over the world.
 
Flouncy Magoo said:
I know you reichwingers had a collective orgasm when finally, after decades, someone who identified as a Democrat finally shot at some Republicans.

You still are the side with more terrorism and murder on your record than any other group in the US, and you've held that lead for decades.

When it comes to terrorism, righties have no equals.
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Fletch said:
Have you provided any proof that your numbers are accurate?
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Don't need to. Common knowledge figures that counting everybody in those categories, that one out of four of Trump's base is very, very emotionally and mentally disturbed.
 
humbolt said:
Bull crap. Post something by a reputable source to back your numbers or just quit. I'm not shifting anything. You're the one making the ridiculous claim and demanding some oath of fealty or something. I owe you nothing, and nobody else does either. And Antifa is a bunch of punks who ought to be locked up right along with the white supremacist nuts. One is not better than the other. On my moral scale, they're both at the bottom. I can't be bothered with the effort to differentiate between one slug and another.
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You can deny all you want, but I am very right on in my figures. Quit shifting the argument. And the American people seem to be, as a whole, based on the news and radio and internet, etc. very glad that Antifa will put themselves between the Alt Right and those they want to hurt. I have no idea why you would support Alt Right hurting people.
 
Lutherf said:
I think it's more like 125% because a lot of us brown hating honkeys don't support Trump openly..we do it on the down low so you don't even know who we are. If I were you I'd highly recommend just hating on everyone who isn't you because you can never tell where us haters are and then one day, BAM! We take over the world.
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Silly, silly, silly. The Alt Right who hate are pretty obvious.
 
ocean515 said:
Hard to understand the ignorance and fear that pervades the mind of Nazi sympathizers, White Supremacists, and others like them.

What I find curious is the wall to wall coverage by the left's MSM of this tiny sliver of a fraction of a percent of the population here in the US.

If I read the numbers right, even the alt-left ideologues at the Southern Poverty Law Center places their numbers at something below 20k in total between all of them.

As despicable as these idiots are, why all this attention?
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It's basically a gang. It corrupts youth and engages in organized criminal activity. It's perpetuated by power hungry scumbags without morals or ethics. The impact is more than the people killed for initiation and profit, it's about degrading American society. Now don't go telling me the vast majority of nazi gang members are law abiding upstanding citizens. That's as stupid as claiming such about biker gangs.

MS13 is half the number in the US and some claim they're the devil incarnate. I see them in the news sometimes days in a row, entire programs even. They're better than a nazi gang because they don't perpetuate disadvantage and injustice against a race.

So, if we're gonna ignore 20k nazi gang members, are we also going to ignore 8k MS13 gang members? Or maybe both could be addressed, if someone somewhere has time.
 
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JamesBY said:
All nazis support Trump, but not all Trumpers are nazis. So I have no idea if you are or not.
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You know every single Nazi!? That's amazing....how is it that you've gotten to know them all?
 
JamesBY said:
Don't need to. Common knowledge figures that counting everybody in those categories, that one out of four of Trump's base is very, very emotionally and mentally disturbed.
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Well you do need to back up your charges. Otherwise there is no reason to care what you say. Your numbers are crap.
 
humbolt said:
Your post #3:

You are talking about deplorable political belief, and equating them to those who support Trump as I said. I don't have to condemn such people to satisfy you. I have no truck with extremist political beliefs of any sort. I do that so I can look in the mirror and to honor those who've fought against such things when they were truly a threat.
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Your logic is off again. I said one in four. That is not "all" as you suggest. And if you won't denounce evil, well, that does not look good. Why do you have trouble with the idea that the Antifa get between people who would hurt they people they hate?
 
KevinKohler said:
You know every single Nazi!? That's amazing....how is it that you've gotten to know them all?
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And you have trouble with logic. The Klan supports Trump. The neo-nazis support Trump. Come on, let's talk logically.
 
ecofarm said:
It's basically a gang. It corrupts youth and engages in organized criminal activity. It's perpetuated by power hungry scumbags without morals or ethics. The impact is more than the people killed for initiation and profit, it's about degrading American society. Now don't go telling me the vast majority of nazi gang members are law abiding upstanding citizens. That's as stupid as claiming such about biker gangs.

MS13 is half the number in the US and some claim they're the devil incarnate. I see them in the news sometimes days in a row, entire programs even. They're better than a nazi gang because they don't perpetuate disadvantage and injustice against a race.

So, if we're gonna ignore 20k nazi gang members, are we also going to ignore 8k MS13 gang members? Or maybe both could be addressed, if someone somewhere has time.
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Oh, I thought all the MS13 were working for the left. Yeah, this is the type of logic we are working with when talking to the defenders of the Alt Right.
 
Common, decent people have to wonder about people who defend the CSA, the Nazis, and the Alt Right.

I don't get it. It's not like these people are mainstream Republicans, who are good, hard working people.
 
JamesBY said:
And you have trouble with logic. The Klan supports Trump. The neo-nazis support Trump. Come on, let's talk logically.
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Some of the Klan. Some of the neo nazis.
 
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