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What is wrong with you?

Because it suits.

And it's just too bad that Antifa and those who secretly sympathize with them are every bit as hateful and demonstrably more violent than knuckle-dragging white supremacists...and that they don't see that the last paragraph of the letter fails because it doesn't include them.

Agree with you 1000%. You know when Nancy Pelosi can see the problem there is a big problem with the left calling out the violence! The
letter writer wants to blame one side for all the the trouble and closes a blind eye to Antifi thugs.

The last line in the letter is: "All Americans should stand shoulder to shoulder against your hatred and bigotry."
Does the left stand against Antifi? That is questionable right now. Maybe they are starting?

Nancy Pelosi condemns Antifa violence in Berkeley
Nancy Pelosi condemns Antifa violence in Berkeley
 
Hard to understand the ignorance and fear that pervades the mind of Nazi sympathizers, White Supremacists, and others like them.

What I find curious is the wall to wall coverage by the left's MSM of this tiny sliver of a fraction of a percent of the population here in the US.

If I read the numbers right, even the alt-left ideologues at the Southern Poverty Law Center places their numbers at something below 20k in total between all of them.

As despicable as these idiots are, why all this attention?

You are correct that the numbers are tiny. They only seem large because they get so much media attention and are such a prominent target for outrage from the left who will not acknowledge that 99% of the right also denounces and disavows any support for them.

I have been watching this phenomenon of the PC police and the ultra extreme reaction to anybody who doesn't conform to the ideology of the left. It isn't set in granite yet, but I am coming to a pretty firm conclusion that the left is confirming day by day. This thread is a good example.

I think the left doesn't really believe in anything. Everything they stand for is some kind of fuzzy notion of utopian scenario of how they think they want things to be or how they think things are. If you ask any one of them to really explain their point of view coherently and specifically, it is an extremely rare leftist who can do so. They will say something like say all healthcare should be single payer, but they will not even entertain or consider any negative components that come with that. Anybody who disagrees with them about that is bad, wrong, hateful, greedy etc. And of course racist and/or sexist and/or. . .

Their whole focus is on those who disagree with them, who see things differently, or who hold un-PC opinions about anything. Such people are immediately dumped into Hillary's 'basket of deplorables' and labeled as something awful. And a huge target is put on such people for punishment and/or destruction. Certainly such people should not be allowed to speak or do business or otherwise enjoy ordinary liberties that most of the left demands for itself. Those on the left will spell out their sins that to the leftists are glaring even as the left cannot coherently define the actual sins that are being committed. The sin is not thinking like the left.

With some exceptions, the left isn't driven by ideology or theory or anything concrete or clearly definable. They seem to be driven by their own illusions of superiority, of being better people with the goal of eliminating all who don't toe the righteous line of correct thought. They cannot argue without using ad hominem and personal insults. They can't defend their point of view because they can't define it, so they attack the 'evil opposition' who dares to challenge them. Challenge them on anything and you will be personally attacked.

It is a little scary when you think about it.
 
Agreed. The political left is making hay about Nazi! Nazi! Nazi! because their former Russia! Russia! Russia! fell flat due to a distinct lack of evidence.

No, it hasn't fallen apart due to any reason. Subpoenas have been issue, homes raided with search warrants, grand juries have been empaneled, etc... Your desperation to downplay those facts is almost palpable.

Sad.
 
Condemn white supremacy and those groups that support it, why then we are good, yes.

I don't have to. My father fought in WWII. I was raised with an understanding of such things and learned at an early age to appreciate the difference between free speech and violent actions. Furthermore, if your intention is to equate "deplorables" with white supremacy, you're attempting a false equivalency, and I'm not interested in that BS. I have no need to condemn anything to pass your litmus test, except perhaps condemning the disingenuous nature of your test.
 
It may suit you to believe that, but the argument is incorrect. How are antifa "every bit as hateful and demonstrably more violent than knuckle-dragging white supremacists..."? Are they pulling weapons and shooting in crowds? Are they driving cars into crowds? The moral equivalency argument once again fails.

Forget about that lefty shooting up the ballfield?
 
Because it suits.

And it's just too bad that Antifa and those who secretly sympathize with them are every bit as hateful and demonstrably more violent than knuckle-dragging white supremacists...and that they don't see that the last paragraph of the letter fails because it doesn't include them.
Why are you blatantly lying?

Why do you defend fascists and demonize those who save vulnerable people from their mindless violence?
 
Forget about that lefty shooting up the ballfield?

I know you reichwingers had a collective orgasm when finally, after decades, someone who identified as a Democrat finally shot at some Republicans.

You still are the side with more terrorism and murder on your record than any other group in the US, and you've held that lead for decades.

When it comes to terrorism, righties have no equals.
 
Why are you blatantly lying?

Why do you defend fascists and demonize those who save vulnerable people from their mindless violence?

Not supporting antifa is not the same as defending "fascists".
 
Not supporting antifa is not the same as defending "fascists".

So, who murdered two people in Charlottesville? Antifa or Nazis? Who saved lives?

How about answering those questions honestly?
 
Why all the attention? You are, I am sure, reading their numbers quite wrongly. If you lump everyone in who is uber nationalist, nativist, ethnocentric, racialistic, antidemocracy, and desire a white ethno-state, then you probably have 20 to 25% of Trump's base falling into that group.

I think that number is way high. Very few that the left think are sympathizers actually are. The count is more like 1%.

Believing that all groups have a first amendment right to speak does not make you a nazi anything. It makes you a believer in the Constitution. Myself I just don't drive a few hundred miles to listen.
 
I don't have to. My father fought in WWII. I was raised with an understanding of such things and learned at an early age to appreciate the difference between free speech and violent actions. Furthermore, if your intention is to equate "deplorables" with white supremacy, you're attempting a false equivalency, and I'm not interested in that BS. I have no need to condemn anything to pass your litmus test, except perhaps condemning the disingenuous nature of your test.
Only you are talking about deplorables. I am taking about white supremacy, white nationalist, a white ethno-state, nativism, uber nationalist, ethnocentrism, and antidemocracy.

You won't deny them, then you support them.
 
Forget about that lefty shooting up the ballfield?
Show he was antifa, which you know you can't.

More of the SlingshotBob fallacy of moral equivalency and fallacy of false equivalency.

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Anyone who will not deplore the Alt Right does not support our great values of justice, truth, and the American Way.

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Originally Posted by humbolt View Post I don't have to. My father fought in WWII. I was raised with an understanding of such things and learned at an early age to appreciate the difference between free speech and violent actions. Furthermore, if your intention is to equate "deplorables" with white supremacy, you're attempting a false equivalency, and I'm not interested in that BS. I have no need to condemn anything to pass your litmus test, except perhaps condemning the disingenuous nature of your test.

Yes, you do need to diss the Alt Right. Only you are talking about deplorables. I am taking about white supremacy, white nationalist, a white ethno-state, nativism, uber nationalist, ethnocentrism, and antidemocracy.

You won't deny them, then you support them.
 
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I think that number is way high. Very few that the left think are sympathizers actually are. The count is more like 1%. Believing that all groups have a first amendment right to speak does not make you a nazi anything. It makes you a believer in the Constitution. Myself I just don't drive a few hundred miles to listen.

Believe your false numbers all you want. Fascists have the right to free speech, which does not include their call to kill, euthanize, deport, or incarcerate Americans they don't like.
 
Believe your false numbers all you want. Fascists have the right to free speech, which does not include their call to kill, euthanize, deport, or incarcerate Americans they don't like.

For the most part it does.

Which is why BLM can walk down the street calling for dead cops fried like bacon.
 
No, it does not.

Tell me why.

Backup and everything please.

While you're at it, you might want to explain why one viewpoint is different or more protected than the other.
 
Show he was antifa, which you know you can't.

More of the SlingshotBob fallacy of moral equivalency and fallacy of false equivalency.

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Anyone who will not deplore the Alt Right does not support our great values of justice, truth, and the American Way.

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Yes, you do need to diss the Alt Right. Only you are talking about deplorables. I am taking about white supremacy, white nationalist, a white ethno-state, nativism, uber nationalist, ethnocentrism, and antidemocracy.

You won't deny them, then you support them.

I condemn violent thugs on all sides, you cant prove he was not Antifa, they don't exactly carry ID cards, plus there is the matter of covered faces.20819252_2080592121966379_6858217224234405310_o-500x282.jpg
 
I know you reichwingers had a collective orgasm when finally, after decades, someone who identified as a Democrat finally shot at some Republicans.

You still are the side with more terrorism and murder on your record than any other group in the US, and you've held that lead for decades.

When it comes to terrorism, righties have no equals.

Your statement might carry more weight if you had not made the silliest comment I ever heard on DP "Antifa saves lives" lol:lamo Is this before or after they beat the crap out people, just standing around! Do they take a break from assault and property damage to render CPR after a group of them beat unarmed men on the ground with clubs?
 
I condemn violent thugs on all sides, you cant prove he was not Antifa, they don't exactly carry ID cards, plus there is the matter of covered faces.View attachment 67222303
I don't have to prove that he was not antifa, you do.

Antifa does put itself between the Alt Right and those they want to hurt.
 
I know you reichwingers had a collective orgasm when finally, after decades, someone who identified as a Democrat finally shot at some Republicans.

You still are the side with more terrorism and murder on your record than any other group in the US, and you've held that lead for decades.

When it comes to terrorism, righties have no equals.

I didn't bother to go over all of your post history, but from what I've seen you are cringy amounts of partisan.

Tell me, in your left-right paradigm, where does Nazism fall? Where does Anarcho-Capitalism fall? I'm going to guess you would say these are both on the right despite being polar opposite ideologies, effectively. The sooner you, and everyone else for that matter, understands the left-right paradigm is retarded, the sooner we move away from mindless partisan hackery.
 
Because it suits.

And it's just too bad that Antifa and those who secretly sympathize with them are every bit as hateful and demonstrably more violent than knuckle-dragging white supremacists...and that they don't see that the last paragraph of the letter fails because it doesn't include them.

I detest Antifa, but can you link to me an article where Antifa drove a car through neo-nazis and white supremacists and murdered a person/people? That's not a serious question, because we both know the answer to that is "No." Antifa never enslaved people, Antifa never falsely imprisoned people to force them into labor, Antifa never lynched people, Antifa didn't forcibly relocate millions of people, and Antifa didn't ethnically cleanse 95% of a local ethnic population. The same cannot be said of white nationalists and Nazis. Antifa might be violent ****heads, but it's dangerous and historically ignorant to morally equate the two.
 
Why are you blatantly lying?

Why do you defend fascists and demonize those who save vulnerable people from their mindless violence?

Perhaps you can show me how members of Antifa have saved vulnerable people from white supremacists' mindless violence.

Surely looks to me that in the vid clip below, Antifa are themselves being violent:



From the LA Times:

Among those appalled by the increasingly militant force are radicals from the 1960s peace movement.

Political scientist Jo Freeman, part of the radical student movement that forced UC Berkeley to permit political speech five decades ago, said she was dismayed at the effort that went into silencing opposition. She drew similarities between those who threatened her and other freedom marchers in the South in the 1960s, and those who bully the far right now.

“It is not uncommon for societies to produce a hate squad,” Freeman said. “People who want to suppress the right to speak — they are everywhere.” 'Antifa' violence in Berkeley spurs soul-searching within leftist activist community - LA Times
 
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