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    Re: Rob Quist Tops $5 Million in Donations in Montana Special Election

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    If you get him in the margin of error, you may have a point, given that state polling practices in the run-up to the last election were significantly off (whereas the national polls were close to on the money). However, I wouldn't bet on it.

    As for whether it would be a blow to Trumpism, maybe, a bit, yeah, but mostly no. You'll want to avoid the national narratives in states like Montana.
    It starts the conversation. It turns it into "Trump is losing us the House..."
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    It could add fuel to the leftwing attacks on cops that was started by obama when he was president
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    The headline says he resigned, however, he was essentially fired. Michael Bolton needs to bring in his people.

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    Re: Rob Quist Tops $5 Million in Donations in Montana Special Election

    Quote Originally Posted by Winston View Post
    It starts the conversation. It turns it into "Trump is losing us the House..."
    Democrats (though more specifically, progressives) are getting far too amped up for their own good, here. You have to treat really red states differently than presuming a domino effect.
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    Re: Rob Quist Tops $5 Million in Donations in Montana Special Election

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Democrats (though more specifically, progressives) are getting far too amped up for their own good, here. You have to treat really red states differently than presuming a domino effect.
    Yeah, he may end up getting smoked. I do believe Bernie's message of income inequality is effective messaging everywhere. And I think in Montana a message of climate change, alternative energy, and hitting Republicans as being too friendly to oil and gas, could be effective.
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    The headline says he resigned, however, he was essentially fired. Michael Bolton needs to bring in his people.

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    Re: Rob Quist Tops $5 Million in Donations in Montana Special Election

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    Yeah, he may end up getting smoked. I do believe Bernie's message of income inequality is effective messaging everywhere. And I think in Montana a message of climate change, alternative energy, and hitting Republicans as being too friendly to oil and gas, could be effective.
    Well, that's what I mean. A lot of these states don't have the animosity toward oil and gas that the coastal regions do. They might say, hey, you should decrease the tax breaks you give them, because now we are in a financial crisis. However, all things being equal, if a red state politician can get a tax break and overturn regulations for oil and gas companies without a perceptual hit to the financial status of the state government or its citizens, pulling the green card is much more likely to alienate voters than attract them. Climate change? They don't care.
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    Re: Rob Quist Tops $5 Million in Donations in Montana Special Election

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Well, that's what I mean. A lot of these states don't have the animosity toward oil and gas that the coastal regions do. They might say, hey, you should decrease the tax breaks you give them, because now we are in a financial crisis. However, all things being equal, if a red state politician can get a tax break and overturn regulations for oil and gas companies without a perceptual hit to the financial status of the state government or its citizens, pulling the green card is much more likely to alienate voters than attract them.
    I think a message of conservation and damage to the planet would be successful with outdoorsmen.. in fact, not too long ago, Montana got up in arms over Republican backed legislation to sell off public land.
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    The headline says he resigned, however, he was essentially fired. Michael Bolton needs to bring in his people.

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    Re: Rob Quist Tops $5 Million in Donations in Montana Special Election

    Quote Originally Posted by Winston View Post
    GOP corporate oligarchy money is well beyond what we grassroots DEM supporters have given.

    I've given to Quist twice, how about you ?
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    Re: Rob Quist Tops $5 Million in Donations in Montana Special Election

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    GOP corporate oligarchy money is well beyond what we grassroots DEM supporters have given.

    I've given to Quist twice, how about you ?
    I gave once.
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    Re: Rob Quist Tops $5 Million in Donations in Montana Special Election

    Quote Originally Posted by Winston View Post
    I think a message of conservation and damage to the planet would be successful with outdoorsmen.. in fact, not too long ago, Montana got up in arms over Republican backed legislation to sell off private land.
    That's quite distinct from adopting a green profile to stop climate change.

    You have to treat most of the energy sector with utilitarianism. Could you promote, say, wind energy, provided it is heavily subsidized? Absolutely. Are you going to get cheers for going against fracking? No, you'll probably piss them off. Are you going to get people all amped to defeat the consequences of man-made climate change? Absolutely not.
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    Re: Rob Quist Tops $5 Million in Donations in Montana Special Election

    Quote Originally Posted by Winston View Post
    Yeah, he may end up getting smoked. I do believe Bernie's message of income inequality is effective messaging everywhere. And I think in Montana a message of climate change, alternative energy, and hitting Republicans as being too friendly to oil and gas, could be effective.
    GOPs are trying to use Bernie's messages and appearance for the Omaha Mayoral candidate as a reason why Mello lost in a mod/con city in flyover country.

    Never underestimate the GOP and they'll destroy you with any mistake you make with millions of corporate dirty laundry .
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    Re: Rob Quist Tops $5 Million in Donations in Montana Special Election

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    That's quite distinct from adopting a green profile to stop climate change.

    You have to treat most of the energy sector with utilitarianism. Could you promote, say, wind energy, provided it is heavily subsidized? Absolutely. Are you going to get cheers for going against fracking? No, you'll probably piss them off. Are you going to get people all amped to defeat the consequences of man-made climate change? Absolutely not.
    You still have to tell people the truth, and the truth is fracking is damaging our planet. And it needs to stop. I believe you can create support in states that frack because people see first-hand the damage fracking does.

    In a primarily red state, they have been brainwashed by Koch money to disbelieve in climate change, so maybe try out a new messaging strategy, by using words like "energy independence". When you really mean alternative energy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mac77 View Post
    It could add fuel to the leftwing attacks on cops that was started by obama when he was president
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    The headline says he resigned, however, he was essentially fired. Michael Bolton needs to bring in his people.

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