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Any way to stop the snow flakes in CA

jdog21

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CA has become the ideolog capital of the western civilization. From minoriarty statues for everyone and afrimitive action. To womens rights and lgbt pronouns and gay rights and islam right. The only people that are getting hurt by all these laws is the White Christian Male.
Laws should be to make everyone equal to effect everyone equally. Not to pandor to a certian intrest group.
 
CA has become the ideolog capital of the western civilization. From minoriarty statues for everyone and afrimitive action. To womens rights and lgbt pronouns and gay rights and islam right. The only people that are getting hurt by all these laws is the White Christian Male.
Laws should be to make everyone equal to effect everyone equally. Not to pandor to a certian intrest group.

If you allegedly think that everyone should be equal under the law, why are you opposed to womens rights, gay rights and religious rights? What minority "statues" are you talking about? Did you see an MLK statue and get really upset?
Can you explain how you personally as a white male are suffering in this totally unjust society? It must be rough, right? Other people having the same rights as you does not hurt you, you poor, poor victim.

To answer your question, no, there is no way for you to rob other people of their rights to hoist white male Christians above everyone else, so you're just going to have to live with it.
 
CA has become the ideolog capital of the western civilization. From minoriarty statues for everyone and afrimitive action. To womens rights and lgbt pronouns and gay rights and islam right. The only people that are getting hurt by all these laws is the White Christian Male.
Laws should be to make everyone equal to effect everyone equally. Not to pandor to a certian intrest group.

So you want everyone to be treated equally, yet you're apparently against minority, women, and LGBT rights. Makes no sense, jdog.
 
So you want everyone to be treated equally, yet you're apparently against minority, women, and LGBT rights. Makes no sense, jdog.

Go easy on him. It's so hard being a white person in America and it's obvious this snowflake is having a very, very hard time coping.
 
And we need to do everything possible to lower the influence of California on the rest of society.
 
So you want everyone to be treated equally, yet you're apparently against minority, women, and LGBT rights. Makes no sense, jdog.

His larger point is that pandering to certain groups does not create equal rights. In reality, pandering to certain groups puts those groups on a pedestal above other non-pandered to groups.
 
His larger point is that pandering to certain groups does not create equal rights. In reality, pandering to certain groups puts those groups on a pedestal above other non-pandered to groups.

As an example, when my Wife was a poor single White mom, she could get no help from social services. [back in the early eighties]
 
His larger point is that pandering to certain groups does not create equal rights. In reality, pandering to certain groups puts those groups on a pedestal above other non-pandered to groups.
He didn’t demonstrate any pandering to certain groups while apparently voicing support for pandering to one very specific one. I’d suggest that hanging your hat on this mess of a hit-and-run OP isn’t going to help your arguments in any way.
 
CA has become the ideolog capital of the western civilization. From minoriarty statues for everyone and afrimitive action. To womens rights and lgbt pronouns and gay rights and islam right. The only people that are getting hurt by all these laws is the White Christian Male.
Laws should be to make everyone equal to effect everyone equally. Not to pandor to a certian intrest group.

Though, I am not worried at this point that WCMs are too under privileged. But you are right that we have probably taken a wrong approach to equal and civil rights and that this is beginning to cause considerable problems.
 
As an example, when my Wife was a poor single White mom, she could get no help from social services. [back in the early eighties]

So with that statement, in the context of this thread, you're claiming that if your wife's skin was just a few shades darker she could've gotten some of that sweet minority-money? She walked in and they shouted "NOPE, TOO WHITE! GTFO!"? Can you back that up?

Maybe the GOP method of no poor mothers and children getting social services would've served her better, right?
 
CA has become the ideolog capital of the western civilization. From minoriarty statues for everyone and afrimitive action. To womens rights and lgbt pronouns and gay rights and islam right. The only people that are getting hurt by all these laws is the White Christian Male.
Laws should be to make everyone equal to effect everyone equally. Not to pandor to a certian intrest group.

What specific laws have hurt White Christian Males? Are you sad no one pandors you?
 
Though, I am not worried at this point that WCMs are too under privileged. But you are right that we have probably taken a wrong approach to equal and civil rights and that this is beginning to cause considerable problems.

It was causing problems right from the beginning of the whole mess. When the people making the rules has the most idiotic understanding of rights imaginable it's bound to fail. What makes it even worse is that they have this idea still running around in their head that giving people special considerations somehow creates a more fair society. Another thing to take notice of is that this special considerations mindset was built on the idea that other groups were oppressors by default and had to stopped, so what ended up happening before long was things started to reverse themselves. Instead of anyone noticing things were getting worse in the exact opposite direction the people that loved these policies just kept pushing the same rhetoric as always. Oh and yeah, they are still not seeing it. For example, they still haven't noticed that it is actually harder for white men to get into executive positions, not women or minorities. Why did it turn out that way? Well, because someone decided white men were the great satan and gave special considerations to other groups.
 
His larger point is that pandering to certain groups does not create equal rights. In reality, pandering to certain groups puts those groups on a pedestal above other non-pandered to groups.

Ahh, the oppression olympics! Whoever is the biggest victim wins!
 
So with that statement, in the context of this thread, you're claiming that if your wife's skin was just a few shades darker she could've gotten some of that sweet minority-money? She walked in and they shouted "NOPE, TOO WHITE! GTFO!"? Can you back that up?

Maybe the GOP method of no poor mothers and children getting social services would've served her better, right?

You calling my Wife a liar?
 
So you want everyone to be treated equally, yet you're apparently against minority, women, and LGBT rights. Makes no sense, jdog.

I believe everyone should be treated equally. Regardless of race, creed. color, etc. Conferring rights to specific groups, minority, women, LGBT, white male does the reverse.
 
You calling my Wife a liar?

If she said she was denied social services because of her skin color she's either a liar or should've capitalized on a major lawsuit. All that happened was she was denied social services and you concluded it was because she was white. What state was this in? California? Texas? Or another?

That's the problem with many conservative Americans today. You look at a situation where the Dems support social services for single mothers with children, and the GOP opposes such social services, then if you don't get it (likely in a red state), you victimize yourself about how it's all because you're a poor white person and all the minorities are making bank. Put up or shut up, yes you're a liar if you peddle such race baiting nonsense without facts to support it.

I believe everyone should be treated equally. Regardless of race, creed. color, etc. Conferring rights to specific groups, minority, women, LGBT, white male does the reverse.

Can you state specifically which rights women, LGBT, and racial minorities have that you poor white folk don't? Be specific about the rights you've been denied.
 
He didn’t demonstrate any pandering to certain groups while apparently voicing support for pandering to one very specific one. I’d suggest that hanging your hat on this mess of a hit-and-run OP isn’t going to help your arguments in any way.

Other posters did.
 
And we need to do everything possible to lower the influence of California on the rest of society.

Though, not all change is bad.
 
What specific laws have hurt White Christian Males? Are you sad no one pandors you?

These, for some:

SET-ASIDES are a form of affirmative action used by governments in contracting government business; they include programs that typically designate a percentage of government contracts or funds (either for services or construction of public works) for minority-owned businesses. In 1977 Congress passed a law that directed 10 percent of federal public works funds to minority-controlled businesses, which the Public Works Employment Act defined as ones in which 50 percent of the business was held by African Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian Amer-icans,Native Americans,

Eskimos, or Aleuts. In 2000, federal agencies purchased more than $13 billion in goods and services from minority-owned businesses as part of the program.

(Source, Urban dictionary)

Any Affirmative action program by definition excludes or restricts certain groups to favor other groups.
 
These, for some:

SET-ASIDES are a form of affirmative action used by governments in contracting government business; they include programs that typically designate a percentage of government contracts or funds (either for services or construction of public works) for minority-owned businesses. In 1977 Congress passed a law that directed 10 percent of federal public works funds to minority-controlled businesses, which the Public Works Employment Act defined as ones in which 50 percent of the business was held by African Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian Amer-icans,Native Americans,

Eskimos, or Aleuts. In 2000, federal agencies purchased more than $13 billion in goods and services from minority-owned businesses as part of the program.

(Source, Urban dictionary)

Any Affirmative action program by definition excludes or restricts certain groups to favor other groups.

Okay but we are discussing afrimitive action per OP, not affirmative action. :2razz:
 
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