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THE UNKNOWNS: LA To Bury 1,430 Unclaimed Dead Bodies In Mass Grave...

CaptainCourtesy said:
I said BETTER, Orly... not worse. See, you make a "does not follow" logical fallacy, here. Unless you can actually connect the dots between immigrants being the "unknowns" you have nothing. How about running the numbers and seeing what the the homeless population is in LA County. Betcha it'd be towards the top. See? That's a different and far more plausible connection.
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Now why would luring illegal immigrants not be related to the homeless population?

Are they giving them all free homes?
 
Orly? said:
Highest immigration rate, sanctuary city, bunch of unknown dead..

If you don't see a connection here you need a new meter..
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If you can't demonstrate a connection, all you are doing is making a silly supposition based on your personal bias.

Btw... LA County has the 2nd highest homeless population in the US. As I said, that connection is a whole lot more plausible than yours.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
Hey X... it's 8 AM EST here. Bad night of insomnia... haven't slept, yet. I'm really not in the mood to play a game of political hack "gotcha". If you have to ask me that question... knowing me... then you're trying to play a game. Go play the game with Orly. I'm SURE you can trap him.
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Actually it's a useful tool in my own mind. Would I have been more bothered or offended by it had it been about Trump supporters? In this case, I really don't think so, but that not to say I haven't failed that test in other circumstances.

Sorry about the insomnia though, for real. Been there many times and it sucks.
 
Orly? said:
Now why would luring illegal immigrants not be related to the homeless population?

Are they giving them all free homes?
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Do you believe that illegal immigrants get free homes? Where did you hear that? Breibart? :lol: :lol: :lol: Or perhaps Infowars.
 
X Factor said:
Actually it's a useful tool in my own mind. Would I have been more bothered or offended by it had it been about Trump supporters? In this case, I really don't think so, but that not to say I haven't failed that test in other circumstances.

Sorry about the insomnia though, for real. Been there many times and it sucks.
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Hypocrisy Check! is my game, X. I have the patent on it. :2razz:
 
Orly? said:
If you didn't gather up a bunch of "unknowns", you wouldn't be having to bury them in mass graves..

They would have been buried by their families back home if you didn't lure them to the LAND OF THE FREEstuff..
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Back home? What the heck? Some were BABIES when they died at Birth. They were born in America.

The county has conducted burials for unclaimed individuals since 1896 and this year, the ashes of 1,430 individuals will be buried. The number of individuals buried in the mass grave has remained relatively stable. In the last 10 years, the lowest number of individuals was 1,379 in 2015 compared to the high of 1,798 in 2009.

Why do so many bodies go unclaimed? There’s no specific reason. Some people die alone in nursing homes and hospitals. Some were homeless. Others were babies who died at birth. The babies' ashes are stored in small paper bags, neatly folded like wallets and placed in metal drawers. The adults’ ashes are stored in brown plastic boxes, which don’t quite fit into five tall cabinets at the county crematorium.

Unclaimed remains of more than 1,400 to be buried - Los Angeles Times
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CaptainCourtesy said:
If you can't demonstrate a connection, all you are doing is making a silly supposition based on your personal bias.

Btw... LA County has the 2nd highest homeless population in the US. As I said, that connection is a whole lot more plausible than yours.
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Do you think that these "unknowns" were born and raised there and somehow managed to live their entire lives remaining "unknowns" or is it more likely that these "unknowns" came there from somewhere else, therefore people in the area don't know them? Eh?

"does not follow" logical fallacy? I think not..
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
Do you believe that illegal immigrants get free homes? Where did you hear that? Breibart? :lol: :lol: :lol: Or perhaps Infowars.
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I obviously don't believe that.. Obvious deflection..

"Now why would luring illegal immigrants not be related to the homeless population?

Are they giving them all free homes?"

They aren't getting free homes you say? Did they bring a home with them? Not related to homelessness at all you say? Hmm...
logical fallacy?
 
Serenity said:
Back home? What the heck? Some were BABIES when they died at Birth. They were born in America.
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The moms claim not to know their babies?
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
Hypocrisy Check! is my game, X. I have the patent on it. :2razz:
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Well, as it is kind of irritating (when you realize your anger/indignation/whatever can be pretty selective) so figures it's from you. :2razz:
 
Orly? said:
Do you think that these "unknowns" were born and raised there and somehow managed to live their entire lives remaining "unknowns" or is it more likely that these "unknowns" came there from somewhere else, therefore people in the area don't know them? Eh?

"does not follow" logical fallacy? I think not..
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Or perhaps it is more likely that these "unknowns" are either mentally ill or substance abusers... or a few who just fell into very hard times... like most homeless people. What we know is that Reagan's deinstitutionalization of the mentally ill brought a large increase in the homeless population. Most homeless are either mentally ill or substance abusers and would most likely qualify as "unknowns since they may have disappeared from their family menber's lives.

The "does not follow" logical fallacy in terms of your ridiculous argument certainly applies. You, of course, have offered nothing to support your position.
 
Orly? said:
I obviously don't believe that.. Obvious deflection..

"Now why would luring illegal immigrants not be related to the homeless population?

Are they giving them all free homes?"

They aren't getting free homes you say? Did they bring a home with them? Not related to homelessness at all you say? Hmm...
logical fallacy?
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Good... so you don't believe that. Then how about not saying stupid partisan hack things like that.

And as I have pointed out, your position has no real merit. Read up a little on homelessness and how often homeless people die without having anyone identify them.
 
I have made my argument in this thread..

Obvious is obvious..

I know how you will deny all fact continuing your rhetoric and I will have no part of being trolled by it..
 
X Factor said:
Well, as it is kind of irritating (when you realize your anger/indignation/whatever can be pretty selective) so figures it's from you. :2razz:
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Being irritating is one of my best qualities. Ask anyone. :2razz:
 
Orly? said:
I have made my argument in this thread..

Obvious is obvious..

I know how you will deny all fact continuing your rhetoric and I will have no part of being trolled by it..
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You have made AN argument in this thread. It has been shot down and shown to have no support.

You can leave now.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
You have made AN argument in this thread. It has been shot down and shown to have no support.

You can leave now.
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BREAKING: Population developing immunity to liberal rhetoric guns, becoming completely ineffective due to the awakening..

Shot down? We absorb your bullets and they make us stronger..
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
I MUST point out the irony in this post:



Now, THAT was funny. As for what you posted, if anything you just helped support MY position.
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Your argument agrees with breitbart.. ha ha
The brietbart article I posted is supporting evidence of your argument..

Is brietbart right or are you wrong?
 
Orly? said:
BREAKING: Population developing immunity to liberal rhetoric guns, becoming completely ineffective due to the awakening..

Shot down? We absorb your bullets and they make us stronger..
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Since conservative rhetoric is SO weak, the only direction it could possibly go is up. You've done nothing in this thread except make suppositions you can't prove, fail to challenge anything I've said, HELP my position, and make nonsense right wing hack comments. If that's what you describe as "strong" it doesn't surprise me that right wingers like you are such easy marks in debate.
 
Orly? said:
Your argument agrees with breitbart.. ha ha
The brietbart article I posted is supporting evidence of your argument..

Is brietbart right or are you wrong?
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The Breibart article actually supports my position and is on target, refuting your position. Must have been stolen from a liberal writer. :lol:
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
Since conservative rhetoric is SO weak, the only direction it could possibly go is up.
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We don't have the presidency, the house, the senate, vast majority of state govs and legislators.. It's all just a figment of my imagination..

We are sooo weak..
 
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