You don't think killing or capturing OBL could have prevented 9/11?
Let's turn to one of the Chairs for that answer:
"We to this day don't know why NORAD [the North American Aerospace Command] told us what they told us," said Thomas H. Kean, the former New Jersey Republican governor who led the commission. "It was just so far from the truth. . . . It's one of those loose ends that never got tied."
9/11 Panel Suspected Deception by Pentagon
Oh well, that's good enough for the 9/11 Omission. Lets not scrutinize the Pentagon too much over this, or the trillions of unaccountable dollars they 'lost' right before 9/11. Rummy is an American treasure.
And creating wars based on fictitious grounds insures more money will be needed for homeland security derp.
American wars in the Mideast + Mideast migration to America = terrorism. Derp.
Shill Zelikow probably would have told you that.
Teh bearded guys livin in teh caves over in Afganiland. Right?
The real funny thing is there is no evidence at all to prove that there were any Arab hijackers.
That the Commission would state 63 times that it could "find no evidence" of various aspects of the official story is very telling, for those into rational analysis. It means something.
Blathering "set up to fail" over and over means nothing. They didn't fail.
Please show any ACTIONABLE INTELLIGENCE...
ACTIONABLE.
Meaning can be acted on.
You and I both know we are talking the attacks... Not what transpired long before.
A question.... WTF does it matter if someone engaged in CYA on the response times? Do you even know the response times? Do you realize how stupid it is to argue that point?
OMFG you are bringing up THAT truther shibboleth? Right before 9/11? BS.. It was LONG known money was poorly accounted for. It was ANNOUNCED PUBLICLY just prior to 9/11. And they had audits that discovered where nearly all of the money was spent... It wasn't "missing" or "lost"
Derp... What was Iraq invaded for? Was it 9/11?
One thing you got correct out of the whole post.....
"Long before"??? The USS Cole bombing occurred 11 months before the 9/11 attacks.
The 9/11 Commission Report cites one source who said in February 2001, "[bin Laden] complained frequently that the United States had not yet attacked [in response to the Cole]... Bin Laden wanted the United States to attack, and if it did not he would launch something bigger."
https://9-11commission.gov/report/911Report_Ch6.htm
The Cole investigation would ground down to a halt after Clinton's sub par ambassador insisted on grabbing the spotlight, eliminating all progress that the FBI had made.
Because it's one of many examples that illustrates how the 9/11 Omission was set up to fail, and DID fail.
- the Bush White House 'played cover up'
- the 10 member panel mostly consisted of emissaries of Bush and Clinton, some of whom had a hand in creating the inept practices that ultimately helped AQ.
- erroneous sworn testimony was never punished, or even investigated intensely.
- Saudi Arabia and Israel's connections were censored out of the report.
Please provide evidence that the money was ever accounted for.
Iraq was invaded over fictitious WMD, particularly the bull**** claim about Saddam being close to having nuclear weapons. Remember Bush's 'mushroom cloud' speech? He was exploiting America's fear of terror attacks after the 9/11 tragedy, in order to gain support for war.
They had to settle for this strategy, due to an inability to tie Iraq in with AQ.
On the afternoon of 9/11/2001, only a few short hours after the attacks, Sec of Defense Rumsfeld began formulating a plan to blame the attacks on Saddam Hussein. He didn't even care who'd just attacked the country, the beady eyed fraud had been publicly endorsing an American invasion of Iraq since 1996, and images of the collapsing Twin Towers set his mental gears into conspiratorial motion.
My contention isn't that Al Qaeda didn't conduct the attacks, it's that they didn't act alone, and they certainly weren't the ones that benefitted from the attacks.
Still waiting for the ACTIONABLE INTELLIGENCE...
Something that can be ACTED ON.
As in take ACTION.
As to the money you apparently have zero clue. Why don't YOU do the research?
And Iraq had zero to do with 9/11 no matter how you try to spin it.
The Commission didn't fail. You fail to understand the report.
I've provided 2 examples already, that in total comprise a dozen missed opportunities to take action. Then there's the whole Able Danger affair, and why evidence was destroyed pertaining to AD, and Philip Zelikow decided not to share any of the Able Danger information with the Commision.
I've provided numerous sources and links throughout this thread. Can you please provide a link that verifies the 2.3 trillion was accounted for?
Lmao. I'm not spinning anything. You're the government apologist here, you tell me why Donald Rumsfeld initially sought to pin 9/11 on Saddam Hussein, and why Bush used the mushroom cloud imagery in his case for war. Thanks, that'd be greaaat.
Put it this way; the Commission wasn't set up to succeed. eace
I've provided 2 examples already, that in total comprise a dozen missed opportunities to take action. Then there's the whole Able Danger affair, and why evidence was destroyed pertaining to AD, and Philip Zelikow decided not to share any of the Able Danger information with the Commision.
I've provided numerous sources and links throughout this thread. Can you please provide a link that verifies the 2.3 trillion was accounted for?
Lmao. I'm not spinning anything. You're the government apologist here, you tell me why Donald Rumsfeld initially sought to pin 9/11 on Saddam Hussein, and why Bush used the mushroom cloud imagery in his case for war. Thanks, that'd be greaaat.
Put it this way; the Commission wasn't set up to succeed. eace
You will never get a straight answer from Maus. Facts do not interest him on the matter of 911, including the Commission.
Yes, the Commission was set up to fail. If not for the efforts of the "Jersey Girls" there would have been no Commission at all. Though utterly clueless about anything on September 10, by the afternoon of September 11 the Bush Administration had all the answers. No investigation was necessary in their view.
You will never get a straight answer from Maus. Facts do not interest him on the matter of 911, including the Commission.
Yes, the Commission was set up to fail. If not for the efforts of the "Jersey Girls" there would have been no Commission at all. Though utterly clueless about anything on September 10, by the afternoon of September 11 the Bush Administration had all the answers. No investigation was necessary in their view.
Your two examples have jack **** to do with stopping the 911 attack.
Your ignorance of the audit going on the determine where the 2.3 Trillion was spent is noted.
As to Iraq. Plenty wanted Iraq to be involved. The problem is the evidence showed nothing of the sort. What Rumsfeld INITIALLY thought is irrelevant.
You still haven't explained why Air Force Respond times are so damn important....
You're out of juice and sputtering like a 60 cc engine Fleder buddy.
You can't or won't post links to back up your claim, ignore points like the Able Danger affair, and just brush past any inconvenient truths anyone asks you to address.
You sound like a lifelong government employee. Which organization did you work in, if you wouldn't mind sharing?
Still waiting for why the Air Force response times (that were later clarified) are so important...
Oh, and the ACTIONABLE INTELLIGENCE...
You haven't found that either...
Count the lies, then ask yourself what they amount to -
- NORAD lied about needing FAA approval to scramble and shadow unresponsive or suspicious aircraft
- NORAD engaged in 129 such incidences in 2000 alone
- Gen Eberhart and NORAD changed their response times a total of FOUR TIMES, including the BS commission report's version of no warnings reaching NORAD before all 4 aircraft crashed. This is a blatant lie.
- 4 star Gen Eberhart perjured himself before the commission, when he lied about response times
- Eberhart further lied when he said no one envisioned a need for a defense against highjacked commercial aircraft used as weapons. Between 1998-2001, NORAD conducted 28 exercises involving highjackings, including scenarios that revolved around suicide missions where large aircraft were aimed at high value targets. EVERYONE KNEW THE WTC WAS A HIGH VALUE TARGET TO AL QAEDA.
Don't respond if your next reply is going to be similar to this one. I'm done providing solid arguments that fail to penetrate your government lap dog mentality.
WHAT ARE THE RESPONSE TIMES IMPORTANT?
Why? It is a simple question....
If you knew the times you would realize how silly you sound.
And where is the ACTIONABLE INTELLIGENCE?
Didn't think so....
The military response timeline was posted here once. Only a deluded Cter could look at it and come to the conclusion the military was standing down or intentionally going slow to let the planes hit their targets
Anomaly card :lamo