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Under Trump, Gains Against ISIS Have ‘Dramatically Accelerated'

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Nearly a third of territory reclaimed from the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria since 2014 has been won in the past six months, due to new policies adopted by the Trump administration, a senior State Department official said Friday

Brett McGurk, the State Department’s senior envoy to the anti-Islamic State coalition, said that steps President Trump has taken, including delegating decision-making authority down from the White House to commanders in the field, have “dramatically accelerated” gains against the militants.

Combined Islamic State losses in both countries since the group’s peak control in early 2015 total about 27,000 square miles of territory — 78 percent of militant holdings in Iraq and 58 percent in Syria. About 8,000 square miles have been reclaimed under Trump, McGurk said in a briefing for reporters.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...eb7d3a2d304_story.html?utm_term=.0d2207f6cda8

Trump is making good on his campaign promise to defeat Isis, which I'm glad about. The sooner this plague is removed from earth, the better.
 
Lol, as Bush had to learn, taking it is not the hard part. No one expected Trump to fail at that. It's the parts after taking it we don't think he can do.
 
Trump is making good on his campaign promise to defeat Isis, which I'm glad about. The sooner this plague is removed from earth, the better.

ISIS was already being rolled back, in large part thanks to the airstrikes some people whined about so much.

That being said, Trump claimed that he would have already wiped ISIS out because he "knows more than the Generals".
 
Lol, as Bush had to learn, taking it is not the hard part. No one expected Trump to fail at that. It's the parts after taking it we don't think he can do.

The problem bush faces was the same one obama faced, in that wiping out dictators who kept the region stable and prevented ethnic cleansing and tribal warfare caused these groups to expand. Think about it, al quaeda was not in iraq until saddam fell, because he would never allow them there, same in syria.

With iraq the fall of saddam allowed al quaeda to migrate there where prior they would have been prosecuted by the dictatorship, saddam was borderline athiest, and had little care for a holy war and too much for his own power and stopping those who could take it from him.

With isis it did not grow because we left iraq, it grew in syria and lybia, one was overthrown and the other was heavily destabilized, this allowed them to grow in the vacuum and invade and take much of iraq, where isis formed but had no real way to grow there. What is stabilizing syrua now and killing isis is the us govts ending of funding and arming rebels, combined with russia protecting assad, and the more assad regains territory, the less isis has to grow on.
 
According the trump supporters ISIS was going to be wiped out so there will be peace.
 
What's the answer to all of this then?

Ask trump, he's the one who promised stability.

My answer is to get the **** out of the Middle East, including Israel cause they can handle themselves.
 
Lol, as Bush had to learn, taking it is not the hard part. No one expected Trump to fail at that. It's the parts after taking it we don't think he can do.

ISIS was already being rolled back, in large part thanks to the airstrikes some people whined about so much.

That being said, Trump claimed that he would have already wiped ISIS out because he "knows more than the Generals".

Can you at least give him credit for something? Even WaPo gave it up, and 99% of their coverage is strictly 'anti Drumf' rhetoric.
 
Trump is making good on his campaign promise to defeat Isis, which I'm glad about. The sooner this plague is removed from earth, the better.

trump can thank his generals and Obama for this, as you know ...
 
Then you have no solutions, just criticisms. I see. Is your registered party affiliation D by any chance?

You were the one that voted for trump with all the answers so why don't you point to yourself for that. I already said the answer is to get out of the middle east including Israel since they can handle themselves.
 
Trump is making good on his campaign promise to defeat Isis, which I'm glad about. The sooner this plague is removed from earth, the better.
Yeah, and under Trump the weather got warmer going into summer.

Which is about similarly causative.
 
You were the one that voted for trump with all the answers so why don't you point to yourself for that. I already said the answer is to get out of the middle east including Israel since they can handle themselves.

Indeed they can handle themselves, while handling us at the same time. Some of our members of Congress should be running for election in Jerusalem, since they're busier working for that citizenry than their own.
 
Yeah, and under Trump the weather got warmer going into summer.

Which is about similarly causative.

Isis were retreating before January 20, but the point of the thread is that Trump is more aggressive than his predecessor was.

Are there any policies of the Trump administration that you like?
 
The problem bush faces was the same one obama faced, in that wiping out dictators who kept the region stable and prevented ethnic cleansing and tribal warfare caused these groups to expand. Think about it, al quaeda was not in iraq until saddam fell, because he would never allow them there, same in syria.

With iraq the fall of saddam allowed al quaeda to migrate there where prior they would have been prosecuted by the dictatorship, saddam was borderline athiest, and had little care for a holy war and too much for his own power and stopping those who could take it from him.

With isis it did not grow because we left iraq, it grew in syria and lybia, one was overthrown and the other was heavily destabilized, this allowed them to grow in the vacuum and invade and take much of iraq, where isis formed but had no real way to grow there. What is stabilizing syrua now and killing isis is the us govts ending of funding and arming rebels, combined with russia protecting assad, and the more assad regains territory, the less isis has to grow on.

Those groups could grow in Iraq because Saddam wiped out social capital. Through tyranny and genocide, Saddam created the inevitable. Unless he was allowed to remain a genocidal dictator forever, this was going to happen.

A nation can not have its social capital obliterated and then not experience difficulties in the rebuilding process. If we must blame someone other than the terrorists themselves, by going back to the creation of fertile ground, let's go back to what actually created that fertile ground; it was not the removal of the dictator (something that had to happen eventually), it was the dictator.
 
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Indeed they can handle themselves, while handling us at the same time. Some of our members of Congress should be running for election in Jerusalem, since they're busier working for that citizenry than their own.

To whom do you refer?
 
And civilian deaths from US aggression has exploded.
 
And civilian deaths from US aggression has exploded.

You know what, if I had a group of killers in my town/city and that my family and I are going to end up collateral damage from others trying to kill them, then I'd make a ****ing effort to get rid of them first.

So I guess your country can do better? What's your solution....to just let ISIS be?
 
Trump is making good on his campaign promise to defeat Isis, which I'm glad about. The sooner this plague is removed from earth, the better.

The battle for Mosul was seen as the turning point against ISIS and it was fought by the Iraqi army for months before Trump even entered office. Trump is as responsible for the defeat of ISIS as he is for the current economy. It must be nice to not inherit an America on fire.
 
Trump is making good on his campaign promise to defeat Isis, which I'm glad about. The sooner this plague is removed from earth, the better.

The reason ISIS is on the run now...as opposed to when Obama was President is this:

1. The US stepped up their efforts.

2. Mattis, with Trump's support, vows to annihilate ISIS...not just push them around. The tactic used now is to surround groups of ISIS, attack them...kill them all. It's working.

3. Trump, along with Iraq, Jordan and Egypt, is supporting the GCC, he isn't trying to control them and they see Trump as a man of his word. After the end of ISIS, stability in the region will be up to them...not the US.
 
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You know what, if I had a group of killers in my town/city and that my family and I are going to end up collateral damage from others trying to kill them, then I'd make a ****ing effort to get rid of them first.

So if the killers control the town, and all of its life and kill anyone who stands up to them, including their family...
So I guess your country can do better? What's your solution....to just let ISIS be?

You really dont understand what has happened eh? The Obama administration had specific rules of engagement that protected civilians as much as possible. The Trump administration did away with that, and are murdering hundreds of innocents and the survivors are going to more inclined to join ISIS than ever.... the Trump administration are creating more terrorists.
 
So if the killers control the town, and all of its life and kill anyone who stands up to them, including their family...


You really dont understand what has happened eh? The Obama administration had specific rules of engagement that protected civilians as much as possible. The Trump administration did away with that, and are murdering hundreds of innocents and the survivors are going to more inclined to join ISIS than ever.... the Trump administration are creating more terrorists.

Doesn't answer the question. What's your solution?
 
Doesn't answer the question. What's your solution?

To avoid civilian casualties if at all possible... something the US is not doing at the moment.

Then again ISIS would not have been around in the first place if Bush had not invaded Iraq.
 
To avoid civilian casualties if at all possible... something the US is not doing at the moment.

Then again ISIS would not have been around in the first place if Bush had not invaded Iraq.


Bullcrap. You're confused. You make it sound like the US doesn't even consider the civilians. That would be ISIS, not the US military. If the US didn't consider it at all, there would be no ISIS.
 
To avoid civilian casualties if at all possible... something the US is not doing at the moment.

Then again ISIS would not have been around in the first place if Bush had not invaded Iraq.


Agreed.
 
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