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What war on terror?

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There is no war on terror. As Noam Chomsky says, the notion is ludicrous. How can the largest terrorist nation/group in the world be leading a "war" on terror when it's the biggest terrorist?

How do we know this? Before this "war" there was the cold "war', another huge propaganda spiel. The commies never threatened and the "terrorists" aren't coming either. The US has always demonized some group or another, and the population dutifully falls into place, inventing the usual racist slurs, then the deep hatred, then the slaughter of millions.

I know that this is going to shock a lot of you, but the alleged hijackers did not cause the collapse of WTCs 1, 2 & 7. Let's start with the last one as it is the easiest to grasp.

WTC7 fell at free fall speed for the first 2.5 seconds, 105 feet, 8 floors. Free fall cannot occur without a controlled demolition. It is absolutely impossible. Alleged hijackers could not have induced free fall on a building that they never came within 300 or more yards of. Even if they had wandered over to WTC7, they had not the means or the ability to cause a free fall collapse.

A controlled demolition at WTC7 means controlled demolitions at WTCs 1 & 2. WTCs 1 & 2 fell at accelerating speeds. That is also impossible in a gravity collapse. It goes against Newton's Law of Conservation of Momentum.

"Third law: When one body exerts a force on a second body, the second body simultaneously exerts a force equal in magnitude and opposite in direction on the first body."

There was no jolt, no slowing. Everyone knows that when you hit a nail with a hammer, the hammer is slowed.

The presence of molten and vaporized steel at WTC also tells us the alleged hijackers had no part in the towers' collapse. Jet fuel and office furnishings, maximum 1,800F. Molten steel 2,800+F; vaporized steel 4,800+F.
 
Another gigantic USA propaganda meme bites the dust.

What kind of a "brain" does it take for a body to buy into these loathsome, phony as hell US conspiracy theories?
 
Well just think of it. We had Homeland spring forth and the Patriot Act, and last but least the TSA. And they are wanting to improve on it.
When I saw the first twin tower collapse on its self I knew something wasn't right, but the second tower? Not likely.
 
Well just think of it. We had Homeland spring forth and the Patriot Act, and last but least the TSA. And they are wanting to improve on it.
When I saw the first twin tower collapse on its self I knew something wasn't right, but the second tower? Not likely.

It's good to know that there are Americans who can think for themselves.
 
There is no war on terror. As Noam Chomsky says, the notion is ludicrous. How can the largest terrorist nation/group in the world be leading a "war" on terror when it's the biggest terrorist?

How do we know this? Before this "war" there was the cold "war', another huge propaganda spiel. The commies never threatened and the "terrorists" aren't coming either. The US has always demonized some group or another, and the population dutifully falls into place, inventing the usual racist slurs, then the deep hatred, then the slaughter of millions.

I know that this is going to shock a lot of you, but the alleged hijackers did not cause the collapse of WTCs 1, 2 & 7. Let's start with the last one as it is the easiest to grasp.

WTC7 fell at free fall speed for the first 2.5 seconds, 105 feet, 8 floors. Free fall cannot occur without a controlled demolition. It is absolutely impossible. Alleged hijackers could not have induced free fall on a building that they never came within 300 or more yards of. Even if they had wandered over to WTC7, they had not the means or the ability to cause a free fall collapse.

A controlled demolition at WTC7 means controlled demolitions at WTCs 1 & 2. WTCs 1 & 2 fell at accelerating speeds. That is also impossible in a gravity collapse. It goes against Newton's Law of Conservation of Momentum.

"Third law: When one body exerts a force on a second body, the second body simultaneously exerts a force equal in magnitude and opposite in direction on the first body."

There was no jolt, no slowing. Everyone knows that when you hit a nail with a hammer, the hammer is slowed.

The presence of molten and vaporized steel at WTC also tells us the alleged hijackers had no part in the towers' collapse. Jet fuel and office furnishings, maximum 1,800F. Molten steel 2,800+F; vaporized steel 4,800+F.

Intentional ignorance.

Much of the above has been debunked and/or explained to you.

Go back to the CT forum.
 
Intentional ignorance.

Much of the above has been debunked and/or explained to you.

Go back to the CT forum.

Yeah, and that dude threw his passport out the window of the jet as he hollered Allah Akbar when he flew into the building...regardless of the WTC argument...my version of the "War On Terror" doesn't depend on those details ...simply that it's just part of a symptom politicizing a term to make something new of an age old issue...rally the people behind a cause...wars are profitable and besides, mankind seems to like it...The Mother Of All Wars aka The War On Terror has been going on since before the time of Christ regardless of what name it is given...

Of the past 3,400 years, humans have been entirely at peace for 268 of them, or just 8 percent of recorded history.

'What Every Person Should Know About War' - The New York Times

Here's my short version:

fighting terrorism.jpg
 
Yeah, and that dude threw his passport out the window of the jet as he hollered Allah Akbar when he flew into the building...

Time to first ignorant statement..... One sentence.

1. Passports are made of sturdier materials than paper. Take a look at one sometime.
2. Paper items are common in aircraft crashes. Even those with catastrophic impacts. Letters, magazines, personal effects, etc.
3. The cockpit, where at least two of the hijackers were located at impact is practically the front of the airliner and escaped the majority of the fireball.
4. Other flammable items survived the fireballs.
5. Allah Akbar was probably yelled at the time the two airliners impacted the towers. We know Allah Akbar was actually captured on the voice recorders on Flight 92.

CLUE: If a website includes the words "9/11" and "Truth" in the title it usually very light on Truth, heavy on ignorance.
 
Time to first ignorant statement..... One sentence.

CLUE: If a website includes the words "9/11" and "Truth" in the title it usually very light on Truth, heavy on ignorance.

Never been to one that I'm aware and have my own passport...as I said, my premise does not depend on any of that but I'm glad you found a snippet to address.

"the two airliners impacted the towers." yeah, and WTC7 fell down, why?

Edit to add:

CLUE: My argument was begun by me long before 9/11 or we even had an internet.
 
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Never been to one that I'm aware and have my own passport...as I said, my premise does not depend on any of that but I'm glad you found a snippet to address.

"the two airliners impacted the towers." yeah, and WTC7 fell down, why?

Edit to add:

CLUE: My argument was begun by me long before 9/11 or we even had an internet.

Never been to one?

I call BS on that.

You are mouthing the appropriate memes.

Examples:

The passport.

WTC7 wasn't hit by an airliner.


And WTC7 collapsed due to fire. At least that is the conclusion of ezperts and the subject of NIST report.
 
Never been to one?

I call BS on that.

You are mouthing the appropriate memes.

Examples:

The passport.

WTC7 wasn't hit by an airliner.


And WTC7 collapsed due to fire. At least that is the conclusion of ezperts and the subject of NIST report.

First off, being on discussion forums as I was, I'm aware of the types of sites to which you refer but I don't recall seeing any websites with "9/11" and "Truth" in their titles, none that I opened.

I do my own research and draw my own conclusions.

I've certainly got better things to do than expand on an argument, which if you had reasonable reading skills, you would have paid attention to more than the first sentence of what you originally quoted, I had no interest in as regards the thread topic.

Have a good day and save your bs for others.
 
First off, being on discussion forums as I was, I'm aware of the types of sites to which you refer but I don't recall seeing any websites with "9/11" and "Truth" in their titles, none that I opened.

Right.

I do my own research and draw my own conclusions.

Well please share....

What "research" have you done into 9/11 beyond reading and regurgitating memes?

I've certainly got better things to do than expand on an argument, which if you had reasonable reading skills, you would have paid attention to more than the first sentence of what you originally quoted, I had no interest in as regards the thread topic.

First sentence: Yeah, and that dude threw his passport out the window of the jet as he hollered Allah Akbar when he flew into the building...

That is your first sentence.

Standard CT BS. Sorry if you don't like being called on it.

Have a good day and save your bs for others.

TRANSLATION: Looked foolish regurgitating Truther meme. Backing away not so gracefully.
 
TRANSLATION: Looked foolish regurgitating Truther meme. Backing away not so gracefully.

You are entitled to your opinion.

Personally, I find myself in agreement with some opinions of those you are so intent on linking me to...which somehow justifies your rather obtuse view of my position...I'm really not interested in going off on the tangent you wish...for two reasons at the present time...first, it's a tired old argument that is nearly irrelevant to this topic in the bigger scheme of things, imo...second, you've got a bad tude dude and if I'm gonna spend time on your nonsense, I'm gonna make it fun...get back to me in a week or two when I will have been a member long enough to access the lower levels of the forums

If you wish to carry on a respectful conversation regarding the other aspects of my thesis I'd be glad to join in...if it's simply more bs you can have the last word

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You are entitled to your opinion.

Personally, I find myself in agreement with some opinions of those you are so intent on linking me to...which somehow justifies your rather obtuse view of my position...I'm really not interested in going off on the tangent you wish...for two reasons at the present time...first, it's a tired old argument that is nearly irrelevant to this topic in the bigger scheme of things, imo...second, you've got a bad tude dude and if I'm gonna spend time on your nonsense, I'm gonna make it fun...get back to me in a week or two when I will have been a member long enough to access the lower levels of the forums

If you wish to carry on a respectful conversation regarding the other aspects of my thesis I'd be glad to join in...if it's simply more bs you can have the last word

:popcorn2:

Were you or were you not mouthing Truther memes?

Yes.

Not an opinion.

And if you side with the "9/11 Truth" folks, you side with idiots, the ignorant and liars.

But, if that is your choice, go for it.
 
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The GWOT was brought under fraud, and it is sustained under fraud. The Senate's rejection of Rand Paul's proposal to return to constitutional governance by repealing AUMF demonstrates that. Our Bought & Sold US Congress prefers perpetual war, probably because it's good for their stock portfolios.
 
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