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Battle for Mosul: Who controls what - Al Jazeera English




"11 November 2016 – Amid the intensification of the military offensive against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL/Da’esh) in Iraq’s Mosul city and the resulting displacement of civilians, the United Nations human rights wing said today that it has received reports that Iraqi civilians are also fleeing into Syria, which itself is reeling under a five-year long conflict that has displaced millions of Syrians and left hundreds of thousands trapped in besieged cities.
“We have received reports that Iraqi civilians from rural areas around Mosul city have been arriving in Syrian governorates of Raqqa, Deir ez-Zour and al-Hassakeh,” Ravina Shamdasani, a spokesperson for the Office of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR), told journalists at the UN Office at Geneva earlier today.
“They reportedly left, after the Iraqi Security Forces and allied armed groups captured the areas, fearing they would be seen as affiliated to ISIL,” she added."


United Nations News Centre - Mosul offensive against ISIL pushing Iraq’s civilians into war-ravaged Syria – UN rights wing





"It is natural for most reporting and military analysis to focus on every major development in the daily fighting against ISIS, but the fight to liberate Mosul and Raqqa is only one part of a much longer and more complicated struggle that may well go on for years. While some in the White House staff do talk of "victory" in Mosul—and even Raqqa—before President Obama leaves office, virtually no one actually involved in shaping U.S. and Iraqi strategy believes this is possible. The main body of ISIS forces in Mosul may be defeated, but this will only be a prelude to what will be a different and much longer fight.
Senior U.S. officers and officials have warned publicly for months that clearing Mosul is likely to be followed by a long period of fighting with elements of ISIS that have dispersed into the Iraqi countryside, hidden in the city, and/or stage out of Syria. They have made it clear that unless ISIS actually collapses, Iraqi security forces are going to have to secure the city over a long period of time, and will have to do so at a time when Iraq will be seeking to return internally displaced persons (IDPs) to Mosul and other cities and villages in western Iraq, and to rebuild these cities and villages. U.S. officials have warned that some ISIS fighters may disperse to other countries and carry out acts of terrorism, but that other ISIS fighters will try to attack targets throughout Iraq—and that such attacks are already underway."

https://www.csis.org/analysis/raqqa-mosul-and-long-war



https://www.google.com/?#q=mosul+raqqa


Maybe it would be best to keep ISIS busy with Raqqa and Mosul. Perhaps the objective should not be to win, but to draw out the conflict, to keep ISIS occupied.



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The main body of ISIS forces in Mosul may be defeated, but this will only be a prelude to what will be a different and much longer fight.
Senior U.S. officers and officials have warned publicly for months that clearing Mosul is likely to be followed by a long period of fighting with elements of ISIS that have dispersed into the Iraqi countryside, hidden in the city, and/or stage out of Syria.
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ISIS goes back to an insurgency, instead of a "state"
 
Gladiator said:
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Map of Holdings.


Battle for Mosul: Who controls what - Al Jazeera English




"11 November 2016 – Amid the intensification of the military offensive against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL/Da’esh) in Iraq’s Mosul city and the resulting displacement of civilians, the United Nations human rights wing said today that it has received reports that Iraqi civilians are also fleeing into Syria, which itself is reeling under a five-year long conflict that has displaced millions of Syrians and left hundreds of thousands trapped in besieged cities.
“We have received reports that Iraqi civilians from rural areas around Mosul city have been arriving in Syrian governorates of Raqqa, Deir ez-Zour and al-Hassakeh,” Ravina Shamdasani, a spokesperson for the Office of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR), told journalists at the UN Office at Geneva earlier today.
“They reportedly left, after the Iraqi Security Forces and allied armed groups captured the areas, fearing they would be seen as affiliated to ISIL,” she added."


United Nations News Centre - Mosul offensive against ISIL pushing Iraq’s civilians into war-ravaged Syria – UN rights wing





"It is natural for most reporting and military analysis to focus on every major development in the daily fighting against ISIS, but the fight to liberate Mosul and Raqqa is only one part of a much longer and more complicated struggle that may well go on for years. While some in the White House staff do talk of "victory" in Mosul—and even Raqqa—before President Obama leaves office, virtually no one actually involved in shaping U.S. and Iraqi strategy believes this is possible. The main body of ISIS forces in Mosul may be defeated, but this will only be a prelude to what will be a different and much longer fight.
Senior U.S. officers and officials have warned publicly for months that clearing Mosul is likely to be followed by a long period of fighting with elements of ISIS that have dispersed into the Iraqi countryside, hidden in the city, and/or stage out of Syria. They have made it clear that unless ISIS actually collapses, Iraqi security forces are going to have to secure the city over a long period of time, and will have to do so at a time when Iraq will be seeking to return internally displaced persons (IDPs) to Mosul and other cities and villages in western Iraq, and to rebuild these cities and villages. U.S. officials have warned that some ISIS fighters may disperse to other countries and carry out acts of terrorism, but that other ISIS fighters will try to attack targets throughout Iraq—and that such attacks are already underway."

https://www.csis.org/analysis/raqqa-mosul-and-long-war



https://www.google.com/?#q=mosul+raqqa


Maybe it would be best to keep ISIS busy with Raqqa and Mosul. Perhaps the objective should not be to win, but to draw out the conflict, to keep ISIS occupied.



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Looks to me like the Obama/Clinton/Kerry foreign policy initiatives were very successful. (nick,nick,nick,nick!)
 
I really hope that trump has good advisers who inform him of the successes in iraq so that he doesn't deploy more ground troops. I wouldn't mind however if he gave weapons to the kurds.
 
Masterhawk said:
I really hope that trump has good advisers who inform him of the successes in iraq so that he doesn't deploy more ground troops. I wouldn't mind however if he gave weapons to the kurds.
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What weapons could benefit the Kurds? TV camera rifles to shoot around corners? What weapons, which if supplied to Kurds, are going to make Turkey angry?


Angle sight


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSlWpygEHXU


Mirror Rifle sights


https://www.google.com/search?q=Tac...=BXInWIv4LISN0wLZwImYBQ#imgrc=rKGUeT_T-Qv_AM:


Corner Shot:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9C0FQPk5mv0



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Kids, when Cheney destroyed Iraq as a country, he kicked a bottom card out of a house of cards.

The ME has collapsed into chaos and war, and it is still spreading.

To add a soupcon of context, the West has had it's boot on the neck of Muslims in the region for over a century, so it's not all on Cheney.
That also has a lot to do with why they're pissed.

Our instinct is to go kill somebody. We have a hammer, so we want to pound nails...

Actually, that's bass ackwards. We want peace, and that is a political process unless you want to go old school and pound them all into mud.

You don't get peace, you build it, and that requires a thought process that's alien to the war machine we have turned into.
 
Gladiator said:
Under Obama, less than half of the US Military casualties than under Bush.

The Obama Doctrine: The President's Military Record, by the Numbers - The Atlantic



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So what about the Yazidis, the Christians, the children of Aleppo, or Syria, or Iran, or Afghanistan, or anywhere else ISIS has butchered and raped and slaughtered and burned and destroyed. Surely, your moral outrage is not limited just to our American soldiers. Surely, you care about all mankind. Or are you just another one of those many excuse making apologists and shills for the muslim loving, American hating Obama/Clinton/Soros/Kerry regime that has done everything in its power to ruin this once great country.

Make America Great Again. USA! USA! USA! USA! Start Today!
 
Quazimodo said:
So what about the Yazidis, the Christians, the children of Aleppo, or Syria, or Iran, or Afghanistan, or anywhere else ISIS has butchered and raped and slaughtered and burned and destroyed. Surely, your moral outrage is not limited just to our American soldiers. Surely, you care about all mankind. Or are you just another one of those many excuse making apologists and shills for the muslim loving, American hating Obama/Clinton/Soros/Kerry regime that has done everything in its power to ruin this once great country.

Make America Great Again. USA! USA! USA! USA! Start Today!
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How do Bush's numbers compare to Obama"


"The death toll among Iraqis as a result of the US-led invasion has now reached an estimated 655,000, a study in the Lancet medical journal reports today.
The figure for the number of deaths attributable to the conflict - which amounts to around 2.5% of the population - is at odds with figures cited by the US and UK governments and will cause a storm, but the Lancet says the work, from the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health in Baltimore, has been examined and validated by four separate independent experts who all urged publication.

In October 2004, the same researchers published a study estimating that 100,000 Iraqis had died as a result of the war since the beginning of the March 2003 invasion, a figure that was hugely controversial. Their new study, they say, reaffirms the accuracy of their survey of two years ago and moves it on.

"Although such death rates might be common in times of war, the combination of a long duration and tens of millions of people affected has made this the deadliest international conflict of the 21st century and should be of grave concern to everyone," write the authors, Gilbert Burnham and colleagues."

Study: War blamed for 655,000 Iraqi deaths - CNN.com




"Civilian casualties from US drone strikes consist of non-combatant civilians who have been killed by drone strikes by the United States government starting in the early 2000s. According to the Long War Journal, as of mid-2011, the drone strikes in Pakistan since 2006 had killed 2,018 militants and 138 civilians.[1] The New America Foundation stated in mid-2011 that from 2004 to 2011, 80% of the 2,551 people killed in the strikes were militants. The Foundation stated that 95% of those killed in 2010 were militants and that, as of 2012, 15% of the total people killed by drone strikes were either civilians or unknown.[2] The foundation also states that in 2012 the rate of civilian and unknown casualties was 2 percent, whereas the Bureau of Investigative Journalism say the rate of civilian casualties for 2012 is 9 percent.[3] The Bureau of Investigative Journalism, based on extensive research in mid-2011, claims that at least 385 civilians were among the dead, including more than 160 children.[4] The Obama administration estimated in June 2016 that US drone strikes under Obama had killed 64 individuals conclusively determined to be non-combatants, in addition to 52 individuals whose status remained in doubt.[5]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualties_from_US_drone_strikes




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Gladiator said:
How do Bush's numbers compare to Obama"


"The death toll among Iraqis as a result of the US-led invasion has now reached an estimated 655,000, a study in the Lancet medical journal reports today.
The figure for the number of deaths attributable to the conflict - which amounts to around 2.5% of the population - is at odds with figures cited by the US and UK governments and will cause a storm, but the Lancet says the work, from the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health in Baltimore, has been examined and validated by four separate independent experts who all urged publication.

In October 2004, the same researchers published a study estimating that 100,000 Iraqis had died as a result of the war since the beginning of the March 2003 invasion, a figure that was hugely controversial. Their new study, they say, reaffirms the accuracy of their survey of two years ago and moves it on.

"Although such death rates might be common in times of war, the combination of a long duration and tens of millions of people affected has made this the deadliest international conflict of the 21st century and should be of grave concern to everyone," write the authors, Gilbert Burnham and colleagues."





Study: War blamed for 655,000 Iraqi deaths - CNN.com

"Civilian casualties from US drone strikes consist of non-combatant civilians who have been killed by drone strikes by the United States government starting in the early 2000s. According to the Long War Journal, as of mid-2011, the drone strikes in Pakistan since 2006 had killed 2,018 militants and 138 civilians.[1] The New America Foundation stated in mid-2011 that from 2004 to 2011, 80% of the 2,551 people killed in the strikes were militants. The Foundation stated that 95% of those killed in 2010 were militants and that, as of 2012, 15% of the total people killed by drone strikes were either civilians or unknown.[2] The foundation also states that in 2012 the rate of civilian and unknown casualties was 2 percent, whereas the Bureau of Investigative Journalism say the rate of civilian casualties for 2012 is 9 percent.[3] The Bureau of Investigative Journalism, based on extensive research in mid-2011, claims that at least 385 civilians were among the dead, including more than 160 children.[4] The Obama administration estimated in June 2016 that US drone strikes under Obama had killed 64 individuals conclusively determined to be non-combatants, in addition to 52 individuals whose status remained in doubt.[5]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualties_from_US_drone_strikes




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Come back and see me when you have some statistics showing the number of murders, rapes, beheadings, dismemberments, and tortures performed by ISIS, ISIL, and Daesh warriors on innocent civilians and opposition combatants. You can thank Obama/Clinton/Soros/Kerry for ALL of them. ALL of them!!!!!

Stop deflecting. Stops inventing alibis. It is dishonest and lame. Just stop.
 
Quazimodo said:
Come back and see me when you have some statistics showing the number of murders, rapes, beheadings, dismemberments, and tortures performed by ISIS, ISIL, and Daesh warriors on innocent civilians and opposition combatants. You can thank Obama/Clinton/Soros/Kerry for ALL of them. ALL of them!!!!!

Stop deflecting. Stops inventing alibis. It is dishonest and lame. Just stop.
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There are not good records of the number of civilians or military killed by ISIS. But the US is now welcomed back to Iraq by the Iraqi government. The Kurds welcome the US involvement in North East Syria. It is speculation to assume that, had the US left 10,000 troops, that anything would have been different. How many more US lives would have been lost?

It is because of the killings by ISIS, that the US is welcomed back to Iraq. At the time in 2011 when the US pulled out of Iraq, There was a lot of resentment against the US and Black Contractor Squads.

Obama is leaving office on good terms with Kurds and the Iraq government, to fight alQaida and ISIS

The Killings by ISIS are unfortunate, but that is not the US responsibility to police Iraq. It was Iraq's responsibility to ask the US for help, if the government needed help with policing ISIS. By allowing Iraq Police to fail, Obama has created a welcoming attitude from the Iraq Government.

Obama has left good relations with most all Middle East Governments. Because the Middle east culture is sensitive to insults, I am wondering how long Trump will be able to balance the competing interests with his ADHD approach.


It is the job of the Iraq Police and army to make and keep the peace with ISIS. How should the US help more?

Also, the relations between Iraq Iran and the US have improved by the US pulling out of Iraq in 2011.


It is easy to say it was a mistake for the US to have pulled out of Iraq in 2011. But the situation in the middle east could be a lot worse than it is today.



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Gladiator said:
There are not good records of the number of civilians or military killed by ISIS. But the US is now welcomed back to Iraq by the Iraqi government. The Kurds welcome the US involvement in North East Syria. It is speculation to assume that, had the US left 10,000 troops, that anything would have been different. How many more US lives would have been lost?

It is because of the killings by ISIS, that the US is welcomed back to Iraq. At the time in 2011 when the US pulled out of Iraq, There was a lot of resentment against the US and Black Contractor Squads.

Obama is leaving office on good terms with Kurds and the Iraq government, to fight alQaida and ISIS

The Killings by ISIS are unfortunate, but that is not the US responsibility to police Iraq. It was Iraq's responsibility to ask the US for help, if the government needed help with policing ISIS. By allowing Iraq Police to fail, Obama has created a welcoming attitude from the Iraq Government.

Obama has left good relations with most all Middle East Governments. Because the Middle east culture is sensitive to insults, I am wondering how long Trump will be able to balance the competing interests with his ADHD approach.


It is the job of the Iraq Police and army to make and keep the peace with ISIS. How should the US help more?

Also, the relations between Iraq Iran and the US have improved by the US pulling out of Iraq in 2011.



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Deliver you alibis to the children of the butchered parents. Tell you story to the parents of the butchered, raped, tortured and disfigured infants who would be normal today if Barack Obama had not left the Middle East in a total shambles. Their blood is on his hands. Their blood is on Hillary Clinton's hands. Stop trying to invent some moral equivalency! No such thing exists. It is a cruel lie. Study McChrystal and his peers. Study Petraeus. Stop spewing pablum.

Cowards talk about such ethereal concepts as "being policemen to the world." As a nation, we have fought in the hell holes of the earth for well over 100 years. WE saved Europe in WWI. WE saved the world from Hitler and Stalin in WWII. Grandchildren everywhere breath clean air because we saved their countries many years ago. Barack Obama broke the faith. His sins can never be forgiven. Hillary's are worse.
 
Quazimodo said:
Deliver you alibis to the children of the butchered parents. Tell you story to the parents of the butchered, raped, tortured and disfigured infants who would be normal today if Barack Obama had not left the Middle East in a total shambles. Their blood is on his hands. Their blood is on Hillary Clinton's hands. Stop trying to invent some moral equivalency! No such thing exists. It is a cruel lie. Study McChrystal and his peers. Study Petraeus. Stop spewing pablum.

Iraq citizen approval of US forces was not good in 2011. Hillary and Obama did not create the authorization of torture under Bush. You do not mention Abu Ghraib. The withdrawal date was set by W. Bush in the Status of Forces agreement.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_torture_and_prisoner_abuse



"President Barack Obama’s announcement on Friday that all 40,000 U.S. troops still in Iraq will leave the country by New Year’s Eve will, inevitably, draw howls of derision from GOP presidential hopefuls — this is, after all, early election season. But the decision to leave Iraq by that date was not actually taken by President Obama — it was taken by President George W. Bush, and by the Iraqi government. "

Iraq’s Government, Not Obama, Called Time on the U.S. Troop Presence | TIME.com




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"However, while America considers the YPG its most capable ally on the ground in Syria, Turkey, a NATO member, sees it as being closely linked to the PKK (Kurdistan Workers’ Party), a Turkish separatist group. Turkey is conducting a vicious counter-insurgency campaign against the PKK. The Turkish government is determined to prevent the YPG and its political arm, the PYD, from carving out a contiguous Kurdish homeland across Turkey’s southern border with Syria. Consequently,

Washington has reluctantly heeded Turkish demands not to provide the SDF with heavy weapons, such as artillery and anti-tank missiles, that would have boosted its firepower. The Turkish president, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, claims that his forces, not the SDF, will liberate Raqqa.

The Americans are unconvinced. They are hoping to dissuade the Turks from sabotaging the SDF’s advance on Raqqa. The Turkish plan would be to march through Tal Abyad, a border town, in an attempt to split the territory in Syria that Kurds currently control (and which Kurds hope will one day become a Kurdish statelet called Rojava), says Fabrice Balanche of the Washington Institute, a think-tank. To that end, General Joe Dunford, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, visited Ankara, the Turkish capital, on the day the SDF offensive began."


Anyone for Raqqa? | The Economist







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Quazimodo said:
if Barack Obama had not left the Middle East in a total shambles.
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Uh huh...

Before WW1 supposedly started, Brits were fighting Muslims paid by Germany. Wanna guess where?

Come on, you can do it!

It was in Iraq, and it was over the oil. In WW2 we and the Brits were fighting Rommel, over the oil, of course.

We turned the ME into a house of cards, and when Cheney destroyed Iraq, that house of cards came falling down. The chaos and war, from that mistake, is still spreading.

We weren't trying to be policeman, it was always and only about oil.

"Welcome to the real world."
 
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Kids, when Cheney destroyed Iraq as a country, he kicked a bottom card out of a house of cards.

The ME has collapsed into chaos and war, and it is still spreading.

To add a soupcon of context, the West has had it's boot on the neck of Muslims in the region for over a century, so it's not all on Cheney.
That also has a lot to do with why they're pissed.

Our instinct is to go kill somebody. We have a hammer, so we want to pound nails...

Actually, that's bass ackwards. We want peace, and that is a political process unless you want to go old school and pound them all into mud.

You don't get peace, you build it, and that requires a thought process that's alien to the war machine we have turned into.
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I agree with most of your post, but I don't see how on earth one could claim we, the US, wants peace. We have brought war and destruction to a large part of the planet over the last 15 years, under the fraud that is the Global War On Terror. Those who profit from war control the government and the treasury.
 
late said:
Uh huh...

Before WW1 supposedly started, Brits were fighting Muslims paid by Germany. Wanna guess where?

Come on, you can do it!

It was in Iraq, and it was over the oil. In WW2 we and the Brits were fighting Rommel, over the oil, of course.

We turned the ME into a house of cards, and when Cheney destroyed Iraq, that house of cards came falling down. The chaos and war, from that mistake, is still spreading.

We weren't trying to be policeman, it was always and only about oil.

"Welcome to the real world."
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The Knights Templar cities and castles were regularly fighting Muslims through the middle ages. Many Christians died in the crusades.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Crusader_castles


It at be oil today, but it was partly an attempt at conversion of Muslims to Christianity in the middle ages.


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The US and Turkey have agreed that the SDF, Syrian Democratic Forces, will not enter the city limits of Raqqa. Currently 50 Miles out.

Reported by Independent, UK

The SDF is mostly Kurdish fighters, and is led by the Kurds.







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Gladiator said:
The US and Turkey have agreed that the SDF, Syrian Democratic Forces, will not enter the city limits of Raqqa. Currently 50 Miles out.

Reported by Independent, UK

The SDF is mostly Kurdish fighters, and is led by the Kurds.
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Turkey is turning into a problem, a big one.
 
Quazimodo said:
Deliver you alibis to the children of the butchered parents. Tell you story to the parents of the butchered, raped, tortured and disfigured infants who would be normal today if Barack Obama had not left the Middle East in a total shambles. Their blood is on his hands. Their blood is on Hillary Clinton's hands. Stop trying to invent some moral equivalency! No such thing exists. It is a cruel lie. Study McChrystal and his peers. Study Petraeus. Stop spewing pablum.

Cowards talk about such ethereal concepts as "being policemen to the world." As a nation, we have fought in the hell holes of the earth for well over 100 years. WE saved Europe in WWI. WE saved the world from Hitler and Stalin in WWII. Grandchildren everywhere breath clean air because we saved their countries many years ago. Barack Obama broke the faith. His sins can never be forgiven. Hillary's are worse.
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Many Arab/Persian Muslims just want the Christians to go home. Many in the West place great emphasis on the commandment that "Thou Shalt Not Kill' as a battle cry. That peace should be the objective as defined by the West, in accordance to the Old Testament Commandment against killing.

The Arab Culture, and some other cultures, are more barbaric. The Rallying cry of the West is that this Bad Arab Government kills its own people, or that Arab Governments allow killings that are unjustified under Western norms.

The Christians who are horrified about the killing of their relatives being killed in the Middle East, can either accept the barbaric nature of the Arab view on life, or probably have the option to go live somewhere else. Trying to convert the Arabs and Muslims, to prevent an amount of killings unacceptable to Western standards, is insulting to the Individuals and leaders in the Arab culture. By insulting the Arab and Muslim culture, then more unrest becomes the reaction of the Middle East. Arabs are sensitive to insults, in way not understood by Westerners. The use of medium sized violence to address perceive wrongs, such as planting IED's, is not understood or tolerated by the West. Terrorism can be defined as Medium Sized violence,

The Arab/Muslim culture does not strictly follow the commandment Thou Shalt Not Kill. It is more like Thou shalt not kill excessive numbers of people. The Honor of the individual, or clan, is important, and killing another, or risking death, is a normal part of the culture. That was the point of the Book/Movie Laurence of Arabia,


The Middle East is not becoming depopulated by the barbaric acts of leaders, Gaddafi, or Saddam Hussein, or Assad.,

W Bush was horrified about Saddam Hussein. Obama was horrified by the brutality of Gaddafi in Libya.

The West is over-reacting to the higher level of barbarism in some cultures. Just move out of those kinds of cultures. Disregard the pleadings of the Multi National corporations who re looking for safe market.

The Native American Indians had a similar point of view. Some killing, within reasonable limits, was OK, and natural, and a path to Honor.



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Quazimodo said:
Come back and see me when you have some statistics showing the number of murders, rapes, beheadings, dismemberments, and tortures performed by ISIS, ISIL, and Daesh warriors on innocent civilians and opposition combatants. You can thank Obama/Clinton/Soros/Kerry for ALL of them. ALL of them!!!!!

Stop deflecting. Stops inventing alibis. It is dishonest and lame. Just stop.
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4 Million Muslims have died, so far, for the Global War on Terror

“To this, the PSR study adds at least 220,000 in Afghanistan and 80,000 in Pakistan, killed as the direct or indirect consequence of US-led war: a ‘conservative’ total of 1.3 million. The real figure could easily be ‘in excess of 2 million’.”

These figures may still be underestimating the real death toll, according to Ahmed. These studies only account for the victims of violent conflict, but not the many more who will die as a result of the damage war brings to crucial infrastructure, from roads to farms to hospitals — not to mention devastating sanctions like those placed on Iraq after the first Gulf War in 1991. He continues:

“Undisputed UN figures show that 1.7 million Iraqi civilians died due to the West’s brutal sanctions regime, half of whom were children.

The mass death was seemingly intended. Among items banned by the UN sanctions were chemicals and equipment essential for Iraq’s national water treatment system. A secret US Defence Intelligence Agency (DIA) document discovered by Professor Thomas Nagy of the School of Business at George Washington University amounted, he said, to ‘an early blueprint for genocide against the people of Iraq.’”

Similar figures for Afghanistan, he reports, could bring totals to four million or more."

Do The Math: Global War On Terror Has Killed 4 Million Muslims Or More





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Turkey is turning into a problem, a big one.
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"Turkish jets hit 15 "targets" in the al-Bab area of northern Syria on Sunday in an operation with Syrian rebels that could foreshadow a push on ISIL's de facto capital Raqqa, the Turkish military said.

Ten defensive positions, command centres and an ammunition store used by the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) group were destroyed in the raids, the army said in a statement.


"Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has said that seizing control of al-Bab, around 30km south of the border, is a goal of the operation before targeting Manbij and Raqqa.

Kurdish-led forces recently drove ISIL, also known as ISIS, from Manbij, and Raqqa is considered ISIL's de facto capital.

"Al-Bab is near the border of Syria and Turkey, and is one of the last remaining [ISIL] strongholds in that area," Bin Javaid reported.

"It is strategically important because Turkey needs to take this area if they want to reclaim all territory east of the Euphrates River, which was their goal when they first launched Operation Euphrates Shield."


Turkish jets hit al-Bab in push to take ISIL's Raqqa - News from Al Jazeera
 
Masterhawk said:
I really hope that trump has good advisers who inform him of the successes in iraq so that he doesn't deploy more ground troops. I wouldn't mind however if he gave weapons to the kurds.
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Life must be boring for you
 
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Terrorism caused by youth Unemployment.


What is being done to address the root causes of Terrorism?


"...unemployment among Muslim youth is estimated by Eurostat to be 40 percent in France and 50 percent in Germany. Can there be any doubt that financial desperation—not religion—is handing terrorist recruiters a huge pool of potential foot soldiers? To cut recruiters off at the knees, the United States must encourage its allies to commit to new strategies to integrate Muslim youth into their economies. According to Brandeis professor Andrew Hahn, “Studies demonstrate that entrepreneurship education programs are among the few strategies that work during periods of massive youth joblessness,”

We blame religion and ignore the economic underpinnings of terrorism at our peril. We can fight back with entrepreneurship education, and initiatives that will encourage a worldwide entrepreneurial eco-system to take root, instead of poisonous ideologies."

A Root Cause of Terrorism Is Not Religion | The Huffington Post



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