Most of US drug arrests involve a gram or less

truthatallcost said:

3. My solution isn't to lock up drug addicts forever. I would rather target the source of the drugs themselves, by crippling the drug cartels, and the stranglehold they have on Mexico and their government. If the government of Mexico refuses to cooperate, then we should issue sanctions, and repeal trade agreements. I'm not adverse to using our military to fight cartels either, and it's a much better use of our military than our wars in the middle east that were supposed to bring freedom to people on the other side of the globe.

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We have over 100 years of experience showing that that's never gonna happen. We can't even keep drugs out of extremely controlled environments like schools and prisons, never mind general society. Markets have a way of working even with governments actively trying to destroy them.

How do we get rid of the bums? Concentration camps? Death camps?

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The institution of private property is enough.

swing_voter said:

So anti drug laws are to protect those who have no self restraint. Studies have shown that if you make a drug illegal, it will reduce its use.

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Can you produce any of these studies?

The only studies that I've seen is that decriminalizing recreation drug use actually significantly reduces abuse and use in general.

I'm interested to see what studies you are referring to.

aociswundumho said:

We have over 100 years of experience showing that that's never gonna happen. We can't even keep drugs out of extremely controlled environments like schools and prisons, never mind general society. Markets have a way of working even with governments actively trying to destroy them.



The institution of private property is enough.

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One problem with stopping drugs at the moment, is the fact that money and profit rules every decision for the GOP, and most of the DNC. We have the power to crush the drug cartels, but lack the courage. When foreign terrorists killed 3,000 Americans, our leaders declared war on two countries. When 70,000 Americans die each year from foreign drugs smuggled in from China and Mexico, we make excuses, and start talking about markets and consumer demand. This speaks of some level of complicity.

Good luck imprisoning homeless people for trespassing on private property. The moral decay that has ensued from the permissive attitude towards drugs ensures that your ideas are futile.

Wartime Tax Rates for a real War on Drugs or it is just fake right wing news like usual.

truthatallcost said:

One problem with stopping drugs at the moment, is the fact that money and profit rules every decision for the GOP, and most of the DNC. We have the power to crush the drug cartels, but lack the courage. When foreign terrorists killed 3,000 Americans, our leaders declared war on two countries. When 70,000 Americans die each year from foreign drugs smuggled in from China and Mexico, we make excuses, and start talking about markets and consumer demand. This speaks of some level of complicity.

Good luck imprisoning homeless people for trespassing on private property. The moral decay that has ensued from the permissive attitude towards drugs ensures that your ideas are futile.

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The perpetual moral decay that is tagged on too many issues is historically in equilibrium with the humility and decency of virtue and goodness found through enlightening life experiences. The first paragraph above started with a much more accurate description of a truly destructive evil, the addiction to money and profit at any cost. Money is power - money is influence, and its hypnotic effect can overcome the most sincere of intentions.

Fighting drugs makes no sense; drugs are inanimate objects, and have been part of our world as long as humans have. Trying to eliminate drug use is as futile as trying to eliminate abortion, prostitution, homosexuality, gambling, and other victimless 'crimes.' Usually attempts to eradicate through laws and enforcement create victims through ancillary crimes, driving the demand and price that enrich real criminal elements.

Victimless crimes are so difficult to enforce because outside the actual 'transaction,' there are no victims to report them, only bystanders who are offended or repulsed by viewing the activity are qilling come forward. For example, would be is possible to outlaw and eliminate alcohol (the most common drug) worldwide?

truthatallcost said:

One problem with stopping drugs at the moment, is the fact that money and profit rules every decision for the GOP, and most of the DNC. We have the power to crush the drug cartels, but lack the courage. When foreign terrorists killed 3,000 Americans, our leaders declared war on two countries. When 70,000 Americans die each year from foreign drugs smuggled in from China and Mexico, we make excuses, and start talking about markets and consumer demand. This speaks of some level of complicity.

Good luck imprisoning homeless people for trespassing on private property. The moral decay that has ensued from the permissive attitude towards drugs ensures that your ideas are futile.

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How do you reckon we can "crush the drug cartels"?

Our CIA works with those cartels, as Gary Webb pointed out years ago, as was admitted by the CIA after months or years of hearings, and they made that admission on the same day the story of Monica Lewinsky broke.

You offer a pipe dream sir.