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    Re: A look inside California's black market for weed shows a huge threat to legal sales

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    A look inside California'''s black market for weed shows a huge threat to legal sales

    A CNBC investigation of unlicensed dispensaries in Los Angeles found a variety of illegal activity that regulators say could endanger consumers.

    LOS ANGELES — The parking lot outside a stark-looking dispensary on a busy street here is almost full on a weekday afternoon. Inside, jars of weed line the shelves behind a counter and colorful signs show prices. But if everything looks normal, it isn't.

    The dispensary is part of a booming black market.
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    In some states the black market for Cannabis-related products can reach 70-80% of total sales.

    'An underground economy is cutting into the profits of legal businesses.' For one reason, illegal dispensaries are open past the legal limit of 10 PM. And there is no limit on the amount an individual customer can purchase. And the weed can be consumed on the premises.
    Going by our experience in Canada, the legal business is trying to cut into the profits of the underground economy. Unsuccessfully. The pot distribution system established by the underground can't be improved on and the price point is far more flexible. Why would you go to a legal dispensary and pay $8 a gram when the guy you've dealt with for the last two years will deliver a quarter ounce for $40?
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    Re: A look inside California's black market for weed shows a huge threat to legal sales

    Quote Originally Posted by Nap View Post
    Outside of a minimum age and sales tax there is no need for further regulation.
    And in the marketplace even that level of regulation will be ignored. The most efficient distribution system doesn't care about age and doesn't pay taxes. Never has.
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    Re: A look inside California's black market for weed shows a huge threat to legal sales

    Quote Originally Posted by Checkerboard Strangler View Post
    A recent purchase of "weapons grade uranium" (LOL)...there's so many dire warnings you'd think we had bought a gun.

    Oh wait...Attachment 67259772

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    Korova makes a 1000mg brownie that I bought a couple years back as my first professionally made edible.

    It taught me it is possible to go too far!

    I still have some of it in the freezer, and I'm genuinely scared to eat it.
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    Re: A look inside California's black market for weed shows a huge threat to legal sales

    Quote Originally Posted by WillyPete View Post
    It's a California specialty to make bad, greedy laws, and then fail to enforce them.

    They undermine their own tax revenue and manage to create an entirely new class of criminal, who don't even bother to hide their activity. That's just how dysfunctional the state has become.

    I'm reasonably certain it was all about trying to hand the legal market over to existing medical sellers who were politically connected.

    I will say that my experience is that the legal shops have better products and a somewhat more consistent inventory, but those taxes crank up the price considerably.
    It's also the draconian limitation on the number of legal dispensaries.
    One hundred eighty-six pot shops cannot even begin to meet demand for a metro area of ten or eleven million, where at least 1.5 - 2 million are probably would be legal users.
    There simply aren't enough legal dispensaries, it's as simple as that.

    We shop at a legal dispensary but it's tough to get there at certain times, and the place is always PACKED to the rafters, and the prices are ridiculous.
    But at least we know we're getting proper weed.
    For the record, my wife was already a doctor certified (not a pot doctor, a real doctor) medical user for her MS prior to full legalization.
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    Re: A look inside California's black market for weed shows a huge threat to legal sales

    Quote Originally Posted by WillyPete View Post


    Korova makes a 1000mg brownie that I bought a couple years back as my first professionally made edible.

    It taught me it is possible to go too far!

    I still have some of it in the freezer, and I'm genuinely scared to eat it.
    HAHAHAHAHA...did you ever read my first experience with a brownie?
    I don't blame you for being a little "skeered".
    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    My great grandfather was in the KKK. Can't say he was a white supremacist cause I didn't know him well but, I know what real racism is.

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    Re: A look inside California's black market for weed shows a huge threat to legal sales

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    And in the marketplace even that level of regulation will be ignored. The most efficient distribution system doesn't care about age and doesn't pay taxes. Never has.
    I can only conclude that if you're both right, then maybe the government should have considered the consequences of nearly seventy years of off the chain prosecution and prohibition. They created the underground market and it became so adept at staying robust that it is like an antibiotic resistant infection now, nothing can stop it.
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    Re: A look inside California's black market for weed shows a huge threat to legal sales

    Quote Originally Posted by Checkerboard Strangler View Post
    I can only conclude that if you're both right, then maybe the government should have considered the consequences of nearly seventy years of off the chain prosecution and prohibition. They created the underground market and it became so adept at staying robust that it is like an antibiotic resistant infection now, nothing can stop it.
    That's what has happened. The underground market has become so efficient that it will be hard for a legal enterprise that has to pay rent and taxes to compete. Not to mention that underground producers don't have any hoops to jump through. Already legal dispensaries here are buying product through the back door from guys who have been growing pot for years.
    It's too late to treat pot like booze in terms of legality. Regulation won't work. It's been a free, open market for too long.
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    Re: A look inside California's black market for weed shows a huge threat to legal sales

    Quote Originally Posted by Checkerboard Strangler View Post
    I do appreciate quality control and cleanliness but yeah, outside of that, minimum age and sales tax, you're right.
    Treat it like booze.
    I do as well, we don't need the government for that though we have Yelp.

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    Re: A look inside California's black market for weed shows a huge threat to legal sales

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    That's what has happened. The underground market has become so efficient that it will be hard for a legal enterprise that has to pay rent and taxes to compete. Not to mention that underground producers don't have any hoops to jump through. Already legal dispensaries here are buying product through the back door from guys who have been growing pot for years.
    It's too late to treat pot like booze in terms of legality. Regulation won't work. It's been a free, open market for too long.
    ---The ultimate "big government interference" in freedom, eh?
    Well, one of 'em, that's for sure.

    But I'd prefer to be reasonable and I accept SOME regulation. Quality and safety are important considerations.
    That means REGULATING IT in a manner similar to booze.

    The state has made allowances for people to grow their own.
    That's like giving the go ahead to people who want to brew their own beer or make their own wine.
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    Re: A look inside California's black market for weed shows a huge threat to legal sales

    Quote Originally Posted by Nap View Post
    I do as well, we don't need the government for that though we have Yelp.
    Yelp isn't free of distortion and abuse any more than Craigslist or... damn near anything, to some extent.
    I'm not sure I am ready to depend on something like Yelp.
    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
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