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    CBD is getting buzz, but does it work? And is it legal?

    CBD is getting buzz, but does it work? And is it legal?

    With CBD showing up everywhere, U.S. regulators announced Tuesday they are exploring ways the marijuana extract could be used legally in foods, dietary supplements and cosmetics.

    The U.S. Food and Drug Administration said it will hold a public hearing May 31 to gather more information on the science, manufacturing and sale of cannabis compounds such as CBD.
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    My understanding is that you could sell horse s**t as a health food supplement as long as you didn't make medical therapeutic claims for it. In order to do that you would have to go through clinical trials in order to prove safety & efficacy. No pharma company is going to do that because CBD has no known documented medical uses & for that matter it is a known chemical & could therefore not be patented as a unique composition of matter. Anyone can peddle this like snake oil & just label it CBD.
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    Re: CBD is getting buzz, but does it work? And is it legal?

    CBD is legal in all 50 states as well as in Europe. Everyone in my family uses it and my mom even sells it. We find it is extremely effective against depression, anxiety, general existential dread, insomnia and stress. You can take it in pill, drops, or vaporizer form. I would highly recommend it to anyone looking to just be a little more chill throughout the day without any kind of mental buzz like with THC and you can drive and work normally on it.

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    Re: CBD is getting buzz, but does it work? And is it legal?

    There are very few legitimate studies of CBD.

    There is also no real regulation of CBD. There are some attempts to self-regulate, but that usually involves barraging prospective buyers with a bunch of stats they don't understand, and no real guidance on dosages.

    It's definitely a fad like kombucha or "gluten-free."

    If it is real, then it's sort of like taking a medication where the mechanisms are not well understood, the benefits not well understood, the side effects not well understood. There are worse things in the world, but for most people it's probably snake oil, and I wouldn't take it without at least discussing it with a doctor.
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    Re: CBD is getting buzz, but does it work? And is it legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by JacksinPA View Post
    CBD is getting buzz, but does it work? And is it legal?

    With CBD showing up everywhere, U.S. regulators announced Tuesday they are exploring ways the marijuana extract could be used legally in foods, dietary supplements and cosmetics.

    The U.S. Food and Drug Administration said it will hold a public hearing May 31 to gather more information on the science, manufacturing and sale of cannabis compounds such as CBD.
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    My understanding is that you could sell horse s**t as a health food supplement as long as you didn't make medical therapeutic claims for it. In order to do that you would have to go through clinical trials in order to prove safety & efficacy. No pharma company is going to do that because CBD has no known documented medical uses & for that matter it is a known chemical & could therefore not be patented as a unique composition of matter. Anyone can peddle this like snake oil & just label it CBD.
    Sure, CBD.
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    Re: CBD is getting buzz, but does it work? And is it legal?

    And you have no guarantee as to what you're ingesting & how strong it is or even if it is 100% CBD or not.

    I recall a number of years ago health food stores were selling the amino acid tryptophan as a sleep remedy. Poor quality control at the production facility in Japan meant it had an impurity that gave some users something irreversible like Parkinsonism. I believe that impurity found a use in labs studying the onset of that disease. My neighbor has it & it is a slow, lingering death. As far as CBD goes, caveat emptor.
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    I take it for impinged shoulder pain...it works for me...
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    Re: CBD is getting buzz, but does it work? And is it legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Visbek View Post
    There are very few legitimate studies of CBD.

    There is also no real regulation of CBD. There are some attempts to self-regulate, but that usually involves barraging prospective buyers with a bunch of stats they don't understand, and no real guidance on dosages.

    It's definitely a fad like kombucha or "gluten-free."

    If it is real, then it's sort of like taking a medication where the mechanisms are not well understood, the benefits not well understood, the side effects not well understood. There are worse things in the world, but for most people it's probably snake oil, and I wouldn't take it without at least discussing it with a doctor.
    You're definitively wrong about it being snake oil. There are more studies than you think there are and for the people who try it the quality of life benefits are real and objective enough. If you start taking CBD you will 100% notice a difference and it's up to you to determine if it makes your life better not. It certainly makes mine better and I'm glad it's completely legal in the US and Europe.

    Also, humans have been using cannabis for 10,000 years so calling it a "fad" is a little ridiculous.

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    Re: CBD is getting buzz, but does it work? And is it legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Visbek View Post
    There are very few legitimate studies of CBD.

    There is also no real regulation of CBD. There are some attempts to self-regulate, but that usually involves barraging prospective buyers with a bunch of stats they don't understand, and no real guidance on dosages.

    It's definitely a fad like kombucha or "gluten-free."

    If it is real, then it's sort of like taking a medication where the mechanisms are not well understood, the benefits not well understood, the side effects not well understood. There are worse things in the world, but for most people it's probably snake oil, and I wouldn't take it without at least discussing it with a doctor.
    Great to discuss things with your doctor.

    I am my own doctor first being advised by another doctor.

    You should get training and be able to present yourself in court and clinic.
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    Re: CBD is getting buzz, but does it work? And is it legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by JacksinPA View Post
    And you have no guarantee as to what you're ingesting & how strong it is or even if it is 100% CBD or not.

    I recall a number of years ago health food stores were selling the amino acid tryptophan as a sleep remedy. Poor quality control at the production facility in Japan meant it had an impurity that gave some users something irreversible like Parkinsonism. I believe that impurity found a use in labs studying the onset of that disease. My neighbor has it & it is a slow, lingering death. As far as CBD goes, caveat emptor.
    This is why legalization at the federal level is so important. Once it is legalized, it can be studied and standardized, leading to safer, better medicine.

    From my own experience, CBD creams have done wonders for aches and pains, for myself and numerous family members.

    But more impressively, a friend of mine has an infant daughter with a rare genetic disease (I forget the name, my apologies, but I can find out if there's interest), which gives her seizures - as in, multiple in one day, I think the record was 12 seizures in one day. She has recently been put on a program involving the famous Charlotte's Web oil, which has resulted in no seizures for 4 months now.

    I'm not sure CBD cures anything...but it does do a wonderful job in many directions with symptom management. I hope that we'll see a lot more studies on this, as the number of positive stories far outweigh the negative ones, to the point that I'm unaware of any negative stories associated with medicinal use.
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    Re: CBD is getting buzz, but does it work? And is it legal?

    I've been wondering along these lines myself recently, as my wife has begun using CBD to help with joint pain, and so it doesn't seem to have much effect.

    They say some people need considerably larger doses than others, but with the price making it far more expensive than all her other medications combined (she takes several, but CBD's not covered by insurance) I'm leery of spending so much when the results are unproven.

    The doctors I've asked are useless on the topic, immediately hiding behind the "needs more study" excuse, but I suppose they have a point.

    I'm probably going to continue giving it to her, but I'm going to try buying the distillate (the powdered form) in bulk and making my own capsules, which cuts the price nearly in half, though it's still not cheap.

    You hear all glowing reports of the benefits, and you want it to work the same sort of wonders in your own life, but its hard to tell the difference between finding the right dosage and just wasting money. I'll echo that you should purchase from a reputable source.

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