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CBD is getting buzz, but does it work? And is it legal?

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CBD is getting buzz, but does it work? And is it legal?

With CBD showing up everywhere, U.S. regulators announced Tuesday they are exploring ways the marijuana extract could be used legally in foods, dietary supplements and cosmetics.

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration said it will hold a public hearing May 31 to gather more information on the science, manufacturing and sale of cannabis compounds such as CBD.
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My understanding is that you could sell horse s**t as a health food supplement as long as you didn't make medical therapeutic claims for it. In order to do that you would have to go through clinical trials in order to prove safety & efficacy. No pharma company is going to do that because CBD has no known documented medical uses & for that matter it is a known chemical & could therefore not be patented as a unique composition of matter. Anyone can peddle this like snake oil & just label it CBD.
 
CBD is legal in all 50 states as well as in Europe. Everyone in my family uses it and my mom even sells it. We find it is extremely effective against depression, anxiety, general existential dread, insomnia and stress. You can take it in pill, drops, or vaporizer form. I would highly recommend it to anyone looking to just be a little more chill throughout the day without any kind of mental buzz like with THC and you can drive and work normally on it.
 
There are very few legitimate studies of CBD.

There is also no real regulation of CBD. There are some attempts to self-regulate, but that usually involves barraging prospective buyers with a bunch of stats they don't understand, and no real guidance on dosages.

It's definitely a fad like kombucha or "gluten-free."

If it is real, then it's sort of like taking a medication where the mechanisms are not well understood, the benefits not well understood, the side effects not well understood. There are worse things in the world, but for most people it's probably snake oil, and I wouldn't take it without at least discussing it with a doctor.
 
CBD is getting buzz, but does it work? And is it legal?

With CBD showing up everywhere, U.S. regulators announced Tuesday they are exploring ways the marijuana extract could be used legally in foods, dietary supplements and cosmetics.

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration said it will hold a public hearing May 31 to gather more information on the science, manufacturing and sale of cannabis compounds such as CBD.
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My understanding is that you could sell horse s**t as a health food supplement as long as you didn't make medical therapeutic claims for it. In order to do that you would have to go through clinical trials in order to prove safety & efficacy. No pharma company is going to do that because CBD has no known documented medical uses & for that matter it is a known chemical & could therefore not be patented as a unique composition of matter. Anyone can peddle this like snake oil & just label it CBD.

Sure, CBD.
 
And you have no guarantee as to what you're ingesting & how strong it is or even if it is 100% CBD or not.

I recall a number of years ago health food stores were selling the amino acid tryptophan as a sleep remedy. Poor quality control at the production facility in Japan meant it had an impurity that gave some users something irreversible like Parkinsonism. I believe that impurity found a use in labs studying the onset of that disease. My neighbor has it & it is a slow, lingering death. As far as CBD goes, caveat emptor.
 
I take it for impinged shoulder pain...it works for me...
 
There are very few legitimate studies of CBD.

There is also no real regulation of CBD. There are some attempts to self-regulate, but that usually involves barraging prospective buyers with a bunch of stats they don't understand, and no real guidance on dosages.

It's definitely a fad like kombucha or "gluten-free."

If it is real, then it's sort of like taking a medication where the mechanisms are not well understood, the benefits not well understood, the side effects not well understood. There are worse things in the world, but for most people it's probably snake oil, and I wouldn't take it without at least discussing it with a doctor.

You're definitively wrong about it being snake oil. There are more studies than you think there are and for the people who try it the quality of life benefits are real and objective enough. If you start taking CBD you will 100% notice a difference and it's up to you to determine if it makes your life better not. It certainly makes mine better and I'm glad it's completely legal in the US and Europe.

Also, humans have been using cannabis for 10,000 years so calling it a "fad" is a little ridiculous.
 
There are very few legitimate studies of CBD.

There is also no real regulation of CBD. There are some attempts to self-regulate, but that usually involves barraging prospective buyers with a bunch of stats they don't understand, and no real guidance on dosages.

It's definitely a fad like kombucha or "gluten-free."

If it is real, then it's sort of like taking a medication where the mechanisms are not well understood, the benefits not well understood, the side effects not well understood. There are worse things in the world, but for most people it's probably snake oil, and I wouldn't take it without at least discussing it with a doctor.

Great to discuss things with your doctor.

I am my own doctor first being advised by another doctor.

You should get training and be able to present yourself in court and clinic.
 
And you have no guarantee as to what you're ingesting & how strong it is or even if it is 100% CBD or not.

I recall a number of years ago health food stores were selling the amino acid tryptophan as a sleep remedy. Poor quality control at the production facility in Japan meant it had an impurity that gave some users something irreversible like Parkinsonism. I believe that impurity found a use in labs studying the onset of that disease. My neighbor has it & it is a slow, lingering death. As far as CBD goes, caveat emptor.

This is why legalization at the federal level is so important. Once it is legalized, it can be studied and standardized, leading to safer, better medicine.

From my own experience, CBD creams have done wonders for aches and pains, for myself and numerous family members.

But more impressively, a friend of mine has an infant daughter with a rare genetic disease (I forget the name, my apologies, but I can find out if there's interest), which gives her seizures - as in, multiple in one day, I think the record was 12 seizures in one day. She has recently been put on a program involving the famous Charlotte's Web oil, which has resulted in no seizures for 4 months now.

I'm not sure CBD cures anything...but it does do a wonderful job in many directions with symptom management. I hope that we'll see a lot more studies on this, as the number of positive stories far outweigh the negative ones, to the point that I'm unaware of any negative stories associated with medicinal use.
 
I've been wondering along these lines myself recently, as my wife has begun using CBD to help with joint pain, and so it doesn't seem to have much effect.

They say some people need considerably larger doses than others, but with the price making it far more expensive than all her other medications combined (she takes several, but CBD's not covered by insurance) I'm leery of spending so much when the results are unproven.

The doctors I've asked are useless on the topic, immediately hiding behind the "needs more study" excuse, but I suppose they have a point.

I'm probably going to continue giving it to her, but I'm going to try buying the distillate (the powdered form) in bulk and making my own capsules, which cuts the price nearly in half, though it's still not cheap.

You hear all glowing reports of the benefits, and you want it to work the same sort of wonders in your own life, but its hard to tell the difference between finding the right dosage and just wasting money. I'll echo that you should purchase from a reputable source.
 
CBD is getting buzz, but does it work? And is it legal?

With CBD showing up everywhere, U.S. regulators announced Tuesday they are exploring ways the marijuana extract could be used legally in foods, dietary supplements and cosmetics.

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration said it will hold a public hearing May 31 to gather more information on the science, manufacturing and sale of cannabis compounds such as CBD.
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My understanding is that you could sell horse s**t as a health food supplement as long as you didn't make medical therapeutic claims for it. In order to do that you would have to go through clinical trials in order to prove safety & efficacy. No pharma company is going to do that because CBD has no known documented medical uses & for that matter it is a known chemical & could therefore not be patented as a unique composition of matter. Anyone can peddle this like snake oil & just label it CBD.

Trials are nice, but when I plant a garden, I always make many control plots for companion combinations of plants.

If I want trials I can plant them with each their own kind of fertilizer to see which does best.

So, I go to store and buy miracle grow, several kinds of potting soils and whatever else they have.

No, I start with horse****, and say is horse**** good or bad? So I have to have three trial plots, one with no horse****, one with horse**** and one with everything else without horse****. I say this with greensand, rock phosphate, sul-po-mag, glacial till, alfalfa pellets, kelp, guanos and of course I test the salts in the soil so I make the right blend that I use in my big garden, because I already know how the experiment turns out.

After my madness, I can have compassion on the sick, weak and injured controls and with any blend of fertilizer they all become healthy.
 
I've been wondering along these lines myself recently, as my wife has begun using CBD to help with joint pain, and so it doesn't seem to have much effect.

They say some people need considerably larger doses than others, but with the price making it far more expensive than all her other medications combined (she takes several, but CBD's not covered by insurance) I'm leery of spending so much when the results are unproven.

The doctors I've asked are useless on the topic, immediately hiding behind the "needs more study" excuse, but I suppose they have a point.

I'm probably going to continue giving it to her, but I'm going to try buying the distillate (the powdered form) in bulk and making my own capsules, which cuts the price nearly in half, though it's still not cheap.

You hear all glowing reports of the benefits, and you want it to work the same sort of wonders in your own life, but its hard to tell the difference between finding the right dosage and just wasting money. I'll echo that you should purchase from a reputable source.

She's taking it in pill form? Most folks I know who take it for joint pain get a topical cream.

It should be noted that after a certain pain level, something other than CBD would be more appropriate.
 
This is why legalization at the federal level is so important. Once it is legalized, it can be studied and standardized, leading to safer, better medicine.

From my own experience, CBD creams have done wonders for aches and pains, for myself and numerous family members.

But more impressively, a friend of mine has an infant daughter with a rare genetic disease (I forget the name, my apologies, but I can find out if there's interest), which gives her seizures - as in, multiple in one day, I think the record was 12 seizures in one day. She has recently been put on a program involving the famous Charlotte's Web oil, which has resulted in no seizures for 4 months now.

I'm not sure CBD cures anything...but it does do a wonderful job in many directions with symptom management. I hope that we'll see a lot more studies on this, as the number of positive stories far outweigh the negative ones, to the point that I'm unaware of any negative stories associated with medicinal use.

The disease with the seizures is called Dravet's Syndrome. The CNN report about Charlotte's Web was absolutely phenomenal. When you have a kid that goes from hundreds of seizures a week nearly dying to 1-2 seizures a week and has a happy, normal life, it doesn't matter if the official jury is still out or not.

I've been wondering along these lines myself recently, as my wife has begun using CBD to help with joint pain, and so it doesn't seem to have much effect.

They say some people need considerably larger doses than others, but with the price making it far more expensive than all her other medications combined (she takes several, but CBD's not covered by insurance) I'm leery of spending so much when the results are unproven.

The doctors I've asked are useless on the topic, immediately hiding behind the "needs more study" excuse, but I suppose they have a point.

I'm probably going to continue giving it to her, but I'm going to try buying the distillate (the powdered form) in bulk and making my own capsules, which cuts the price nearly in half, though it's still not cheap.

You hear all glowing reports of the benefits, and you want it to work the same sort of wonders in your own life, but its hard to tell the difference between finding the right dosage and just wasting money. I'll echo that you should purchase from a reputable source.

As OlNate said, it really depends on the type of pain, the intensity of it, and also the dosage and application method of the CBD. If she is not getting an objective benefit from it, then she should try something else. As Nate pointed out, topical creme is typically best for localized pain. Also, I totally agree with you about buying from a reputable source. Luckily there are lots of them.

She's taking it in pill form? Most folks I know who take it for joint pain get a topical cream.

It should be noted that after a certain pain level, something other than CBD would be more appropriate.

Absolutely correct.
 
The disease with the seizures is called Dravet's Syndrome. The CNN report about Charlotte's Web was absolutely phenomenal. When you have a kid that goes from hundreds of seizures a week nearly dying to 1-2 seizures a week and has a happy, normal life, it doesn't matter if the official jury is still out or not.

Yes. The difference in that child life, the lives of her brother and sister, and her parents, was overwhelming. It's very easy to get verklempt over it, so I won't go into detail, but of course I'm closest with her dad, and the change in him even...

I think it's right to want to see this done correctly, I don't blame the OP for having concerns, we all should. I just wish people would stop perpetuating the stigma as they call for these investigations...stop assuming the worst, and hope that all the claims, from all these people, can be quantified and proven. We should be rooting for success here.

Sadly, though, there will be people who never get past the whole prohibition mindset. My 90 year old grandmother has bad glaucoma. Pot would help her incredibly. The one time I suggested it to her, she told me she'd literally rather die. Not only does she suffer needlessly, but I cannot tell her how medicinal pot has changed, and probably saved, my life. All because of effective anti-drug propaganda. It's very sad.
 
I've been wondering along these lines myself recently, as my wife has begun using CBD to help with joint pain, and so it doesn't seem to have much effect.

They say some people need considerably larger doses than others, but with the price making it far more expensive than all her other medications combined (she takes several, but CBD's not covered by insurance) I'm leery of spending so much when the results are unproven.

The doctors I've asked are useless on the topic, immediately hiding behind the "needs more study" excuse, but I suppose they have a point.

I'm probably going to continue giving it to her, but I'm going to try buying the distillate (the powdered form) in bulk and making my own capsules, which cuts the price nearly in half, though it's still not cheap.

You hear all glowing reports of the benefits, and you want it to work the same sort of wonders in your own life, but its hard to tell the difference between finding the right dosage and just wasting money. I'll echo that you should purchase from a reputable source.

She's taking it in pill form? Most folks I know who take it for joint pain get a topical cream.

It should be noted that after a certain pain level, something other than CBD would be more appropriate.

No medicine works in one-hundred percent of cases, but there are other things.

I use two essential oils from Young Living Essential Oils called M-Grain and Deep Relief and it was the next thing I needed for my back after the chiropractor that came just in time and will probably cure it and I broke my hand all to **** at fifty four and after ten days I got to re-set it when I went back to the hospital to pick up a copy of the x-rays. I waited a whole week to have them taken and I worked washing dishes and cutting prep and would have healed better if I had more hours.

Without the oils, I would have been in trouble.

There are Angels anchored in hospitals, I would always want to do point-holding in a hospital.
 
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She's taking it in pill form? Most folks I know who take it for joint pain get a topical cream.

It should be noted that after a certain pain level, something other than CBD would be more appropriate.

We may have to try a cream, though we tried a roll-on style topical some time go, and she didn't notice any effect there either.

Rest assured she's on 3-4 different pain medications, and others besides, but only opiods have had much effect so far, and we can't continue with those.
 
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We may have to try a cream, though we tried a roll-on style opical some time go, and she didn't notice any effect there either.

Rest assured she's on 3-4 different pain medications, and others besides, but only opiods have had much effect so far, and we can't continue with those.

Best of luck, Pete.

If you have the means and the opportunity, I would recommend coming up to Canada for a little holiday. Spend a bit of time at the dispensaries (if you come to Ontario I can give you the name of a great one, with very knowledgeable staff, medicine focus and huge variety of products), and find what works. The good thing about pot is that it's not like other medicines - nothing bad is going to happen to you if you go down the wrong path, other than not solving the problem you're looking to solve.

One common thread among medicinal pot users is that it took a little trial and error to find what works best for them. Don't give up hope because the first couple things you try don't get you where you want to be.
 
Best of luck, Pete.

If you have the means and the opportunity, I would recommend coming up to Canada for a little holiday. Spend a bit of time at the dispensaries (if you come to Ontario I can give you the name of a great one, with very knowledgeable staff, medicine focus and huge variety of products), and find what works. The good thing about pot is that it's not like other medicines - nothing bad is going to happen to you if you go down the wrong path, other than not solving the problem you're looking to solve.

One common thread among medicinal pot users is that it took a little trial and error to find what works best for them. Don't give up hope because the first couple things you try don't get you where you want to be.

Sometimes these remedies require other nutrients and the proper combination of nutrients and diet goes along way toward remedy.

Raw kale preferably grown yourself and other fresh vegetables like carrot or parsley is the start of the program.

There's a saying, "don't get sick, because if you get sick it'll be the program for you and nobody wants to do the program."
 
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CBD is legal in all 50 states as well as in Europe. Everyone in my family uses it and my mom even sells it. We find it is extremely effective against depression, anxiety, general existential dread, insomnia and stress. You can take it in pill, drops, or vaporizer form. I would highly recommend it to anyone looking to just be a little more chill throughout the day without any kind of mental buzz like with THC and you can drive and work normally on it.

Using the oil by mouth does not do much for me, but I've been using the salve on my ankles and feet for about a year by now, and it has been very helpful. Aches and pain mostly gone, mild edema completely gone.
 
CBD is getting buzz, but does it work? And is it legal?

With CBD showing up everywhere, U.S. regulators announced Tuesday they are exploring ways the marijuana extract could be used legally in foods, dietary supplements and cosmetics.

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration said it will hold a public hearing May 31 to gather more information on the science, manufacturing and sale of cannabis compounds such as CBD.
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My understanding is that you could sell horse s**t as a health food supplement as long as you didn't make medical therapeutic claims for it. In order to do that you would have to go through clinical trials in order to prove safety & efficacy. No pharma company is going to do that because CBD has no known documented medical uses & for that matter it is a known chemical & could therefore not be patented as a unique composition of matter. Anyone can peddle this like snake oil & just label it CBD.

It's nothing more than any other herbal remedy oil only this has peer pressure to make you think it works, placebo effect of the masses at work.
 
It's nothing more than any other herbal remedy oil only this has peer pressure to make you think it works, placebo effect of the masses at work.

"Placebo effect of the masses"?

CBD has been working for me for my arthritic conditions for more than a year now, thanks very much.

It seems you might not know what the placebo effect really is.
 
It's nothing more than any other herbal remedy oil only this has peer pressure to make you think it works, placebo effect of the masses at work.

You're talking completely out of your ass about something you know literally nothing about. I can feel it physically change my body and mood after about 15 minutes and the epileptics, insomniacs, depressed and dozens of our groups that benefit from its use will argue the same. Do you pride yourself in being ignorant?
 
You're talking completely out of your ass about something you know literally nothing about. I can feel it physically change my body and mood after about 15 minutes and the epileptics, insomniacs, depressed and dozens of our groups that benefit from its use will argue the same. Do you pride yourself in being ignorant?

Huh huh. It's the wonder drug! When I was briefly vaping they tried to sell me a little bottle of CPD that would do so many wonderful things for me! It was just a mere 125 dollars! Sorry, maybe in some aspects it can help, but it's being pushed at HIGH profit for bs.
 
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