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    Re: Chronic pain given as top reason for using medical marijuana

    The OP is about 10 years old, probably more. Everyone already knew pot helps with some types of pain and also helps a person's lose of appetite such as being on chemo.

    While some people do use medical marijuana for pain, most get scripts claiming pain but really wanting legal pot to get high. That's the story here in Florida which ONLY legalized medical marijuana on a prescription. Accordingly, there are doctors how who sell those prescriptions - and you can get one by giving a credit card number and talking to one of the doctor's nurses or secretary on the phone the same as you can get prescriptions for Viagra from a doctor you never saw. Same thing.

    When in Las Vegas now about 2 years ago or so I visited every pot shop - drove to every one - be curious. Was never in one before, anywhere. Every one - over a dozen - had 2 counters on opposite sides. There was the "Medical" counter for those there for medical purposes and the "Recreational" counter for people who wanted to get stoned for fun.

    How many people did I see at the "Medical" counter? None. Not one. Not at any location. Constant stream to the "Recreational" counter - zero to the "Medical." I found that interesting.

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    Re: Chronic pain given as top reason for using medical marijuana

    One of the frustrations over the "Opiod Epidemic" is that legitimate doctors and dentists are terrified about writing a prescription of Hydro or OxyContin. In fact, pain hurts - a lot - and can be completely crippling, cause great suffering and be intensely distracting. Physical pain and "physical torture," it is just a matter of degree for both. The result is that abusers and illegal drug users for recreation get their opiods anyway, while people who legitimately need it can't. Pot has very low pain relieving ability compared to true pain killers.

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    Re: Chronic pain given as top reason for using medical marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadvirus View Post
    I support legalization of marijuana for medical needs, but I oppose it being legalized for recreational.
    Why?

    Is it dangerous to society if some people are having too much fun?

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    Re: Chronic pain given as top reason for using medical marijuana

    I have a problem with every disc in my lumbar and cervical spine. I've been in #6-#10 pain for about 10 years now, and it's never going to get better. I smoke weed every single day and it does absolutely NOTHING for the pain. What it helps is the attitude IN MY BRAIN and when dealing with agony every single day of my life. That's no lie. Alcohol also helps you better emotionally handle extreme pain, but that is always my last resort and can lead to stupid and destructive behavior.

    I don't know about its pain relieving properties for other afflictions but for my back pain it helps with attitude only. It helps me forget how bad it is.

    ALSO -- I'm naturally a bit of a scatterbrain and smoking weed has allowed me to focus extremely well, and write the three best books on the subject of image composition and design on the market. So the argument that it makes you stupid is also void for everyone.

    Legalize it and decriminalize it everywhere. I promise those who have troubles with alcohol will try it, and like it. And fewer people will die.

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    Re: Chronic pain given as top reason for using medical marijuana

    Few things are sillier than an allegedly "small government conservative" who is happy with his bourbon opposing legalization of something far safer. Few things are stupider than the "but it's another drug and that's bad" routine, and of course if you really are a "small government" conservative/other, you shouldn't want government dictating what people can ingest especially something as safe as this.

    You had your 100+ years of anti-drug enforcement. It didn't work. Time for a new approach across the board. And as for pot, well, its status should reflect the exact (and extremely minimal) harm associated. There's no logical or principled reason to keep anything safer than alcohol illegal. Very few people ingest the amount of pot described by the term "chronic heavy use". And even then, the supposed harms are laughable compared to "chronic heavy use" of alcohol....



    The only reason we're still fighting this fight is that one of the very few things the federal government has excelled at is in implanting generations of propaganda in those who are receptive to it, and are usually receptive because if they accept/repeat the propaganda, they get to puff themselves up on how righteous they are for being "against" something allegedly harmful.

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    Re: Chronic pain given as top reason for using medical marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by WillyPete View Post
    Can you explain why you feel it's worth it, when the costs of prohibition are so high?
    Quote Originally Posted by Thoreau72 View Post
    Why?

    Is it dangerous to society if some people are having too much fun?
    It's bad enough we have drunks driving. We don't need stoners driving too.

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    Re: Chronic pain given as top reason for using medical marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadvirus View Post
    It's bad enough we have drunks driving. We don't need stoners driving too.
    How does making/keeping marijuana illegal prevent that? Were there no drunk drivers during alcohol prohibition?

    We've reduced drinking and especially tobacco use in the last couple decades without arresting anyone over it.

    We managed that with a combination of age restrictions, "sin" taxes, and awareness campaigns. It's cheaper, and it's been effective.

    Why not go with a policy that has worked elsewhere?

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    Re: Chronic pain given as top reason for using medical marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadvirus View Post
    It's bad enough we have drunks driving. We don't need stoners driving too.
    I know you won't believe it, but tests conducted years ago showed that drivers under the influence of pot were more cautious than straight drivers. That is a good thing, but they don't talk about that on mainstream media.

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