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Has a new propaganda war against Pot started?

The right wing has nothing but fantasy regarding fiscal conservatism. Why should the left take the right wing seriously regarding spending priorities.

There is no drug war clause, yet, the right wing prefers to cut entitlement spending for the poor, than cut drug war Spending.

Nothing but socialists on a national basis; who even refuse to pay for it with appropriate tax rates.
 
I don't know of any claim that weed cures cancer. Pain management and appetite enhancement? Absolutely. Regarding legalization opponents, the private prison industry stands to lose a great deal from MJ legalization as well.

I suggest you do more research...

Science Shows Cannabis Has Anti-Cancer Properties
Still other scientists are more hopeful about cannabis’ potential efficacy, and point to laboratory and animal studies that show cannabinoids like CBD and THC kill cancer cells in laboratory conditions — without harming the healthy cells nearby. While clinical trials on human subjects is still a ways off — given cannabis’ status as a controlled substance – the preclinical data gives reason to hope that patients stories of success aren’t just flukes.

“There is a large body of scientific data which indicates that cannabinoids specifically inhibit cancer cell growth and promote cancer cell death” explains Dr. David Meiri, the lead researcher on an Israeli project studying 50 varieties of cannabis and its effects on 200 different cancer cells. Meiri and his team have successfully killed brain and breast cancer cells through exposure to cannabis and they are hopeful they can find more varieties of cancer cells that respond to this treatment.

more (including links to the medical papers) at...
https://www.greenstate.com/health/explainer-does-marijuana-cure-cancer/
 
The cancer claims are coming from the alt-med community, not the scientific community. Excellent point about the private prison industry.

Incorrect. See Above. Also note that the US and many other countries don't allow it's "scientific community" to do any meaningful, unbiased testing on marijuana.
 
I had a discussion on another forum about pot yesterday. Having read hundreds of papers on pot research, I was surprised at what I saw. There has been quite a bit of American research about harms pot supposedly does. The thing is, a lot of this is markedly different from research done outside the country.

The Drug War has done fake research before, it's always been long on BS, and short on facts. So my initial reaction is that they're at it again.

But I need more than suspicion.

Keep looking, you will not have any trouble finding the source of the fake research.
 
Addressing the thread topic..I seem to remember Trump,or someone within his inner circle stating some time ago Trump would make both medicinal and recreational pot illegal..Maybe someone else can help,corroborate,dismiss this,etc.
 
The federal government has a horrible track record on pot.

Time and again they have ordered studies to prove just how dangerous pot is.

And the results of the studies amounts to "a relatively benign euphoric" and they recommend against strong prohibition.

And the feds throw that study away and commission another. Until they get one they like.

And THAT is the one they base policy on.

Marijuana is the heart of the drug war. Its what Nixon wanted to give war protesters felonys for so the couldn't vote against him when he started the whole drug war fiasco.

Drug testing is a multibillion dollar industry.

Private prisons too.

Question the idea that it isn't OK to get high, and many oxen will be gored.

two words "Charlotte's Web'...research it and see how it is saving the lives of children....Almost all of the THC ( the chemical that gets one 'stoned/high' has been removed from this wonder drug.People are literally lining up to get into Colorado to get their hands on it to save their little children.
 
Has a new propaganda war against Pot started?

yes. the horse has left the barn, so now the neoprohibitionists have to resort to propaganda. it's just desperation; it will pass. too many people have smoked pot to be fooled into believing reefer madness bull**** at this point.
 
two words "Charlotte's Web'...research it and see how it is saving the lives of children....Almost all of the THC ( the chemical that gets one 'stoned/high' has been removed from this wonder drug.People are literally lining up to get into Colorado to get their hands on it to save their little children.

I know. I routinely corner anti medical people on this.

If your fixation means children seize to death then **** your fixation.
 
two words "Charlotte's Web'...research it and see how it is saving the lives of children....Almost all of the THC ( the chemical that gets one 'stoned/high' has been removed from this wonder drug.People are literally lining up to get into Colorado to get their hands on it to save their little children.

And don't forget that the feds own the patent for cbd as medicine.

That element of pot they claim has no accepted medical use.

If it doesn't, why do they hold the patent for its medical use?

Anybody see the hypocrisy?
 
Perhaps the reason there are a new wave of reports is because we actually now have 5 years of data to study.

Keep in mind, I am pro-legalization...not just for medicinal but all marijuana.

That being said, the research indicates there are just as many problems as there are gains with legalized marijuana. Yes...there are fiscal gains due to revenues. Yes...there has been an drop in opioid addiction following a previous 14 year increase. But there is a big problem with black market sales. There is a massive problem with illegal sales. There is an increase in homelessness that coincides with legalization.

There are lots of areas to study yet.
https://gazette.com/news/series-is-...cle_58e02d87-862e-5757-98ee-50616f33e25f.html
https://gazette.com/health/collater...cle_c348e1dd-ae81-5cd0-a964-e1ff1f0a41a9.html

We're wiating for this to settle out.

At present, wholesale prices are way down but retail hasn't followed.

The legalization movement has always believed that taxes to the state would replace the "might go to jail "tax" and retail would stay the same. Here in Cali they charge retail PLUS tax.

This is keeping the black market alive.

We're hoping this changes as everything shakes out.
 
I know. I routinely corner anti medical people on this.

If your fixation means children seize to death then **** your fixation.

I know the brothers quite well that developed 'C.W." they used their own money to research and make the strain.They could have made a fortune of this wonder drug,but they don't need the money,and almost all of the sales generated go to charity.They even provide travel money,flights,housing,food,etc. for those who come to Colo.to get the medicine...many of which were still caught up in 'Reefer Madness' mentality................until 'their' child got this dreaded disease that kills the most vulnerable and innocent among us.
 
I know the brothers quite well that developed 'C.W." they used their own money to research and make the strain.They could have made a fortune of this wonder drug,but they don't need the money,and almost all of the sales generated go to charity.They even provide travel money,flights,housing,food,etc. for those who come to Colo.to get the medicine...many of which were still caught up in 'Reefer Madness' mentality................until 'their' child got this dreaded disease that kills the most vulnerable and innocent among us.

My wife advise a friend with a wife who had debilitating seizures.

She went on cbd and it worked. She had no seizures until she lowered her dosage due to cost. As soon as she went back to the original dose they went away again.

Legalization brought the price down. So she gets to go on with her life. Stay at work. She even got her license back.
 
Whatcha got?

It's going to take a lot of digging but one of the more recent "studies" on pot legalization in Colorado pretended that there had been a large spike in DUI incidents, but what they intentionally failed to do was define the difference between persons having had trace amounts and persons who actually got CHARGED with DUI. Thus, a person who had ingested anything with THC in the previous MONTH was lumped in with actual impaired drivers....SURPRISE!!

Damn the crappy search function on this forum, it's extremely difficult to find stuff. Either that or I'm a dumbass, which is entirely possible. But I remember citing the flawed study in a bunch of posts from about four months ago.
 
Addressing the thread topic..I seem to remember Trump,or someone within his inner circle stating some time ago Trump would make both medicinal and recreational pot illegal..Maybe someone else can help,corroborate,dismiss this,etc.

An easy way to tell when a politician is lying is to notice when his lips are moving. :mrgreen:
 
An easy way to tell when a politician is lying is to notice when his lips are moving. :mrgreen:

I personally wouldn't make that a blanket statement for 'all' politicians,but it certainly applies the current POTUS.
 
I personally wouldn't make that a blanket statement for 'all' politicians,but it certainly applies the current POTUS.

POTUS and about two-thirds of Congress.
 
I see the pro-pot for Cancer treatment posts every now and then. That's about it.
 
I see the pro-pot for Cancer treatment posts every now and then. That's about it.

You must have missed the convo about Charlotte's Web?
 
Here is more propaganda from fake news sources like NBC (sarcasm):

Emergency Room Visits Double for Marijuana-Using Colorado Visitors

by Maggie Fox
Tourists who come to Colorado and take advantage of the state's liberal marijuana laws often end up in emergency rooms, doctors said Wednesday.
Emergency department visits involving marijuana-using visitors doubled from 2013 to 2014, the first year cannabis use was legalized in Colorado, a team of Denver-area doctors said.
. . . Researchers found that nearly three of 10 marijuana users manifested a marijuana use disorder in 2012-2013.
Source: Emergency Room Visits Double for Marijuana-Using Colorado Visitors

Colorado epicenter for hash oil fires, severe burns

Now that recreational marijuana is legal, Colorado has become ground zero for hash oil fires, with about 30 so far this year, far outpacing the rest of the country.
. . . When medical marijuana began to proliferate in Colorado in 2009, Wong said that year he had heard of only two Colorado hash oil fires. From 2010 through 2012, none were reported to police or fire authorities. In 2013, Wong’s office confirmed 12 of the fires and already is investigating about 30 in 2014
Few people realize how dangerous the process of making hash oil can be. The highly flammable vapors from the solvents can trigger explosions and cause severe burns that generate massive medical bills, often for people who are uninsured.


Smoking Marijuana While Pregnant May Harm Baby's Brain


Smoking marijuana during pregnancy may cause lasting behavioral and mental defects in the child. A new study in animals suggests that children who are exposed to marijuana in the womb may suffer from a variety of long-term problems even if they aren't born with obvious birth defects.
Source: Smoking Marijuana While Pregnant Could Have Lasting Effect on Fetus<
• No amount of marijuana has been proven safe to use during pregnancy.
• Using marijuana during pregnancy may cause problems for your baby, like premature birth, problems with brain development and stillbirth.
• It’s not safe to use marijuana to treat morning sickness. Talk to your health care provider about treatments that are safer for your baby.
• If you use marijuana, don’t breastfeed. You may pass chemicals from marijuana to your baby through breast milk.
• Talk to your provider if you need help to quit using marijuana or any other street drug.
 
I had a discussion on another forum about pot yesterday. Having read hundreds of papers on pot research, I was surprised at what I saw. There has been quite a bit of American research about harms pot supposedly does. The thing is, a lot of this is markedly different from research done outside the country.

The Drug War has done fake research before, it's always been long on BS, and short on facts. So my initial reaction is that they're at it again.

But I need more than suspicion.
You are not likely to convince me of some conspiracy among the American scientists and clinicians to twist scholarly research on the long and short term effects of marihuana use, to promote a specific result at the behest of some anti- drug coalition. I wonder if your bias is showing, more than a uniform and orchestrated bias infecting everyone else in American academia. My worry is that pot has been getting a little too much good press over the last twenty years. We went from demonizing it as heroin-lite destroying America's youth, to turning it into an utterly harmless, almost adorable, amusing stage in our youth's reach for independence. Its treated like masturbation, only we can tax it now, and fill our coffers!



I am skeptical of either position. I am in favor of legalizing pot use among adults, and recognize that there are multiple medicinal benefits to controlling the symptoms of several diagnosis, but mildly harmful, is still definitely harmful, especially in an immature human brain. Despite mass media projections in television and movies, neither the drunk nor stoned state is funny or healthy. No healthy human organ or system of bodily functions gets stronger or more efficient with the use of either substance to the point of intoxication.
 
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