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Weed the people? Companies relax drug-testing policies in bid to attract more workers

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https://www.nbcnews.com/business/bu...pot-testing-policies-bid-attract-more-n872011

Near-full employment and changing attitudes about cannabis are prompting some companies to drop pre-employment drug screenings for marijuana, experts in human resources say.

“It is happening,” said Brian Kropp, group vice president at Gartner’s HR practice. “In all the conversations we’ve been having with executives about this issue, more and more of them are dropping it,” he said.
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Some industries, such as the railroads, are still stuck with testing for weed use.
 
JacksinPA said:
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/bu...pot-testing-policies-bid-attract-more-n872011

Near-full employment and changing attitudes about cannabis are prompting some companies to drop pre-employment drug screenings for marijuana, experts in human resources say.

“It is happening,” said Brian Kropp, group vice president at Gartner’s HR practice. “In all the conversations we’ve been having with executives about this issue, more and more of them are dropping it,” he said.
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Some industries, such as the railroads, are still stuck with testing for weed use.
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I left the service in late 1975. One of the places I applied for work was Southern Railroad. Not sure if they still exist or were merged with another RR. My vision was not 20/20 and everything else was excellent for a lad of 23 years. I started wearing readers in 1999 and still have respectable vision. They rejected my application and that was the end of my promising career in the RR. The position would have entailed working with box cars. Hard to miss them......Vision was good enough to take up flying ten years ago...
 
Rexedgar said:
I left the service in late 1975. One of the places I applied for work was Southern Railroad. Not sure if they still exist or were merged with another RR. My vision was not 20/20 and everything else was excellent for a lad of 23 years. I started wearing readers in 1999 and still have respectable vision. They rejected my application and that was the end of my promising career in the RR. The position would have entailed working with box cars. Hard to miss them......Vision was good enough to take up flying ten years ago...
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Did no one working for SR wear corrective lenses?
 
Wonder why the railroads still check for drugs. What could go wrong. Driving a 100 car train 80 mph high........
Anyone who holds a security clearance is subject to random drug test. Smoking Marijuana could caused you to lose your clearance.

Since the 1930s, federal law has declared the use, sale or distribution of marijuana illegal. Current federal drug laws are contained in the Controlled Substances Act (CSA). The CSA classifies and regulates illegal drugs, and places listed drugs on a schedule according to their medicinal value and potential for abuse.

Marijuana is a Schedule 1 drug.
 
Common Sense 1 said:
Wonder why the railroads still check for drugs. What could go wrong. Driving a 100 car train 80 mph high........
Anyone who holds a security clearance is subject to random drug test. Smoking Marijuana could caused you to lose your clearance.

Since the 1930s, federal law has declared the use, sale or distribution of marijuana illegal. Current federal drug laws are contained in the Controlled Substances Act (CSA). The CSA classifies and regulates illegal drugs, and places listed drugs on a schedule according to their medicinal value and potential for abuse.

Marijuana is a Schedule 1 drug.
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Google 'Pennsylvania train accident marijuana' & it brings up a bunch of articles where the train crews tested positive for weed after accidents killed people.
 
JacksinPA said:
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/bu...pot-testing-policies-bid-attract-more-n872011

Near-full employment and changing attitudes about cannabis are prompting some companies to drop pre-employment drug screenings for marijuana, experts in human resources say.

“It is happening,” said Brian Kropp, group vice president at Gartner’s HR practice. “In all the conversations we’ve been having with executives about this issue, more and more of them are dropping it,” he said.
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Some industries, such as the railroads, are still stuck with testing for weed use.
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It makes sense.

Imagine if potential employees had to test negative for caffeine and nicotine. No one would get a job.
 
Common Sense 1 said:
Wonder why the railroads still check for drugs. What could go wrong. Driving a 100 car train 80 mph high........
Anyone who holds a security clearance is subject to random drug test. Smoking Marijuana could caused you to lose your clearance.

Since the 1930s, federal law has declared the use, sale or distribution of marijuana illegal. Current federal drug laws are contained in the Controlled Substances Act (CSA). The CSA classifies and regulates illegal drugs, and places listed drugs on a schedule according to their medicinal value and potential for abuse.

Marijuana is a Schedule 1 drug.
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Current federal law is wrong in that respect, and needs to be changed.

Marijuana shouldn't even be illegal, let alone a schedule 1 drug.

I mean, FFS it's less dangerous than alcohol.
 
Rexedgar said:
I left the service in late 1975. One of the places I applied for work was Southern Railroad. Not sure if they still exist or were merged with another RR. My vision was not 20/20 and everything else was excellent for a lad of 23 years. I started wearing readers in 1999 and still have respectable vision. They rejected my application and that was the end of my promising career in the RR. The position would have entailed working with box cars. Hard to miss them......Vision was good enough to take up flying ten years ago...
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about that same period my uncle was -> <- far away from receiving a railroad safety job
then the eye test revealed he was color blind
not a good thing for someone who must distinguish between the red and green lights for oncoming trains sharing a common track

however, i share your pain, rex; immediately before deployment to rotary wing flight school, i was washed out because my eyesight had modestly weakened over a few months. as with you, that road not taken wasn't due to personal choice

getting back to the primary topic, not sure i want the pilot of the commercial flight i am on to be stoned. and i was a daily smoker for over 40 years; so, it isn't because i am opposed to the devil's weed. when i was a young player, i did myself and my team no favors showing up wasted each fastpitch game to catch a knuckleball pitcher. cannabis does have deleterious affect on one's motor skills and cognition. that said, if one is performing without being stoned at the time, it should not matter that they had imbibed earlier. that pilot cannot show up drunk, but he can have knocked some back not less than eight hours prior to reporting for duty. we should treat the consumption of cannabis the same way

https://www.faa.gov/pilots/safety/pilotsafetybrochures/media/alcohol.pdf
 
justabubba said:
about that same period my uncle was -> <- far away from receiving a railroad safety job
then the eye test revealed he was color blind
not a good thing for someone who must distinguish between the red and green lights for oncoming trains sharing a common track

however, i share your pain, rex; immediately before deployment to rotary wing flight school, i was washed out because my eyesight had modestly weakened over a few months. as with you, that road not taken wasn't due to personal choice

getting back to the primary topic, not sure i want the pilot of the commercial flight i am on to be stoned. and i was a daily smoker for over 40 years; so, it isn't because i am opposed to the devil's weed. when i was a young player, i did myself and my team no favors showing up wasted each fastpitch game to catch a knuckleball pitcher. cannabis does have deleterious affect on one's motor skills and cognition. that said, if one is performing without being stoned at the time, it should not matter that they had imbibed earlier. that pilot cannot show up drunk, but he can have knocked some back not less than eight hours prior to reporting for duty. we should treat the consumption of cannabis the same way

https://www.faa.gov/pilots/safety/pilotsafetybrochures/media/alcohol.pdf
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Thanks for the reply. I do not, in any way, condone the use of any judgement altering substances at the place of employment. More so if other’s safety and well-being are compromised. The OP mentioned RR’s and it just stirred my memory of my experience. In the vein of your reply, I had a friend up for a lucrative career as an electrician and the same (color-blind) diagnosis was arrived at. A few more colors than red and green involved in wiring...........



The years have salved any pain from forty+ years.....life has/is good!
 
Common Sense 1 said:
Wonder why the railroads still check for drugs. What could go wrong. Driving a 100 car train 80 mph high........
Anyone who holds a security clearance is subject to random drug test. Smoking Marijuana could caused you to lose your clearance.

Since the 1930s, federal law has declared the use, sale or distribution of marijuana illegal. Current federal drug laws are contained in the Controlled Substances Act (CSA). The CSA classifies and regulates illegal drugs, and places listed drugs on a schedule according to their medicinal value and potential for abuse.

Marijuana is a Schedule 1 drug.
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Marijuana is a plant.A drug is man made.
Marijuana is God made,Genesis 3:22
 
Mizzy22 said:
Marijuana is a plant.A drug is man made.
Marijuana is God made,Genesis 3:22
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All drugs stem in some way from plants or resources in place before humans got involved.

You could potentially argue that all drugs are made by god, or that various degrees of processing are less so...But even marijuana is processed, slightly. Has to be dried.
 
Makes sense. It should really be treated like alcohol. Getting buzzed at home in the evening isn’t going to affect you at work th next day for most people. Now, if you are showing up to work drunk or stoned, then you deserve to lose your job.

I don’t know about others, but I sober up from being stoned a hell of a lot faster than I sober up from being drunk. I have had a few hangovers from alcohol in my life that made working the next day very unpleasant. I have never had a hangover from weed. But that’s me.

The only time your job should be able to ban you from consuming alcohol or weed off the clock is if you have a job where you are on call, and then only on days when you are on call.
 
The Mark said:
All drugs stem in some way from plants or resources in place before humans got involved.

You could potentially argue that all drugs are made by god, or that various degrees of processing are less so...But even marijuana is processed, slightly. Has to be dried.
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True,but Marijuana is pure plant,not changed!
 
JacksinPA said:
Google 'Pennsylvania train accident marijuana' & it brings up a bunch of articles where the train crews tested positive for weed after accidents killed people.
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I know that....... Wonder why the railroads still check for drugs. What could go wrong. Driving a 100 car train 80 mph "high"........ CRASH!
 
Common Sense 1 said:
Caffeine and nicotine are legal to use! You see the difference don't you?
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Pot is legal to use in several states as well.

But, the reasoning against pot is circular: Pot is illegal, and therefore bad. the reason it's illegal, it's bad.

Tobacco causes far more deaths and human misery, yet is legal. Same circular reasoning: It's OK because it's legal, and it's legal because it's OK.
 
Common Sense 1 said:
Caffeine and nicotine are legal to use! You see the difference don't you?
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Yet nicotine is more dangerous than marijuana.

Marijuana should never have been made illegal, that it was is an injustice we have yet to rectify.
 
Mizzy22 said:
Marijuana is a plant.A drug is man made.
Marijuana is God made,Genesis 3:22
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Incorrect....a drug is any substance that has a physical/psychological effect on the body when consumed....natural or synthetic.
 
Mizzy22 said:
True,but Marijuana is pure plant,not changed!
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So is tobacco, so I'm not sure of your point. There are many botanical substances that are poison.
 
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