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The Pharmaceutical Industry Puts People at Risk

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50 years ago marijuana was criminalized without any scientific data that showed it posed a threat. Police officers today know that marijuana is not as dangerous as certain drugs on the drug schedule which are below schedule I.

I've heard that the pharmaceutical industry spends money lobbying Congress. I don't doubt it. I think it's pretty much common knowledge at this point. Why are we kicking the can down the road? Is there a pill that can be sold at a profit to the American proletariat at the end of that road?

People are at risk of dying from dangerous drugs which are classified as "safe for consumption." People are at risk of serving sentences in jail for nonviolent, drug related offenses. Mandatory minimum sentencing makes no sense.

I just don't understand why we are repeating the same mistakes we've made for five decades.
 
Celebrity said:


50 years ago marijuana was criminalized without any scientific data that showed it posed a threat. Police officers today know that marijuana is not as dangerous as certain drugs on the drug schedule which are below schedule I.

I've heard that the pharmaceutical industry spends money lobbying Congress. I don't doubt it. I think it's pretty much common knowledge at this point. Why are we kicking the can down the road? Is there a pill that can be sold at a profit to the American proletariat at the end of that road?

People are at risk of dying from dangerous drugs which are classified as "safe for consumption." People are at risk of serving sentences in jail for nonviolent, drug related offenses. Mandatory minimum sentencing makes no sense.

I just don't understand why we are repeating the same mistakes we've made for five decades.
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This is why. Bolded above.
 
Rexedgar said:
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Even after five decades?

Congressmen have lived and died in that time. Multiple administrations have passed through the White House. Supreme Court Judges have died or stepped down.

I often post about another issue which has been around during similar period of time. Many of the people who support it consider themselves liberal or even progressive. Yet they don't want change, they want to keep a bad situation the way it is. I don't understand how people can grow so old that they just stop being able to learn and grow and/or accept that a false claim long held dear has been decisively proven false.
 
Celebrity said:
Even after five decades?

Congressmen have lived and died in that time. Multiple administrations have passed through the White House. Supreme Court Judges have died or stepped down.

I often post about another issue which has been around during similar period of time. Many of the people who support it consider themselves liberal or even progressive. Yet they don't want change, they want to keep a bad situation the way it is. I don't understand how people can grow so old that they just stop being able to learn and grow and/or accept that a false claim long held dear has been decisively proven false.
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We have had the best representation that money can buy. It’s nothing new to this current crop. Been going on since before they got together and decided we needed government “of the people, by the people and so on.”
Listen or read to some of the commentary of Will Rogers in the 1930’s.
 
If there is a religiously motivated person or religiously motivated legislation which is harming other people, then we need to seriously examine why the votes aren't being cast on the floor of the Senate to remove that injustice. It seems like everyone is paying attention to the latest and greatest crisis, but we can't even fix our own drug schedule because we're being sold myths or being misled by people who falsely purport common interests because of mutual faith. It is the worst kind of identity politics that needs to be kept outside of the state and inside of a home or church.
 
This is to be expected - the current industry giants use government to create and then keep systems in place to maximize their control and thus profits. The alcohol industry giants do the same thing and use government to maintain their place at the top and essentially demand a cut from any upstarts that might dent their share of total sales and thus profits.

“With both major distributor groups behind the bill, whose members collectively made over $1 million in political contributions in 2016 alone, it was essentially guaranteed to become law the moment it was introduced," Austin Beerworks' statement went on to say. "Despite having public support, hard data, and free market principles on our side, we were outspent and outmatched by extremely entrenched opponents. Many legislators made a calculated decision that beer is probably not an issue their constituents will vote on, so they may as well support the side that pays better.”
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https://www.bizjournals.com/austin/...er-brewers-government-endorsed-shakedown.html
 
Celebrity said:


50 years ago marijuana was criminalized without any scientific data that showed it posed a threat. Police officers today know that marijuana is not as dangerous as certain drugs on the drug schedule which are below schedule I.

I've heard that the pharmaceutical industry spends money lobbying Congress. I don't doubt it. I think it's pretty much common knowledge at this point. Why are we kicking the can down the road? Is there a pill that can be sold at a profit to the American proletariat at the end of that road?

People are at risk of dying from dangerous drugs which are classified as "safe for consumption." People are at risk of serving sentences in jail for nonviolent, drug related offenses. Mandatory minimum sentencing makes no sense.

I just don't understand why we are repeating the same mistakes we've made for five decades.
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What purpose does using Marxist language serve in this conversation? Serious question.
 
countryboy said:
What purpose does using Marxist language serve in this conversation? Serious question.
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Sorry countryboy, I know you were probably perceiving Pavlovian puppy pitch parody, but it is simply an artifact from the time I spent reading 1984 and Brave New World as a child. I also explored Marxism as a child. What a silly question.

For your information,

From French prolétariat, from Latin proletarius (“a man whose only wealth is his offspring, or whose sole service to the state is as father”), from proles (“offspring, posterity”)
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https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/proletariat
 
Celebrity said:


50 years ago marijuana was criminalized without any scientific data that showed it posed a threat. Police officers today know that marijuana is not as dangerous as certain drugs on the drug schedule which are below schedule I.

I've heard that the pharmaceutical industry spends money lobbying Congress. I don't doubt it. I think it's pretty much common knowledge at this point. Why are we kicking the can down the road? Is there a pill that can be sold at a profit to the American proletariat at the end of that road?

People are at risk of dying from dangerous drugs which are classified as "safe for consumption." People are at risk of serving sentences in jail for nonviolent, drug related offenses. Mandatory minimum sentencing makes no sense.

I just don't understand why we are repeating the same mistakes we've made for five decades.
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Wanna really get pissed off? Read up on how there are some healing properties to cancer with cannabis, but Big Pharma and other lobbyists will never let it be a mainstream drug because it takes away from the money they make from oncologists, cancer therapy, chemotherapy (which is similar to mustard gas), etc.

I've lost too many friends and family members to cancer, and every single one died after their bodies were basically destroyed by chemo.
 
Celebrity said:


50 years ago marijuana was criminalized without any scientific data that showed it posed a threat. Police officers today know that marijuana is not as dangerous as certain drugs on the drug schedule which are below schedule I.

I've heard that the pharmaceutical industry spends money lobbying Congress. I don't doubt it. I think it's pretty much common knowledge at this point. Why are we kicking the can down the road? Is there a pill that can be sold at a profit to the American proletariat at the end of that road?

People are at risk of dying from dangerous drugs which are classified as "safe for consumption." People are at risk of serving sentences in jail for nonviolent, drug related offenses. Mandatory minimum sentencing makes no sense.

I just don't understand why we are repeating the same mistakes we've made for five decades.
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I am not sure, what you want to say. Selling THC would be a fine pill for the pharma industry to sell. Don't you think?
 
Celebrity said:
Even after five decades?

Congressmen have lived and died in that time. Multiple administrations have passed through the White House. Supreme Court Judges have died or stepped down.

I often post about another issue which has been around during similar period of time. Many of the people who support it consider themselves liberal or even progressive. Yet they don't want change, they want to keep a bad situation the way it is. I don't understand how people can grow so old that they just stop being able to learn and grow and/or accept that a false claim long held dear has been decisively proven false.
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Actually, the drug prohibition has been with us for more than 100 years. The Harrison Narcotic Act of 1914 began the drug prohibition, though marijuana wasn't added to the list until 1937. Timothy Leary beat them in court, and the system had to respond with the Controlled Substances Act in whatever year that was.

The reason we continue to support the failed and harmful prohibition is because the Cocaine Importing Agency wants to stay in business, and of course all federal agencies that benefit from the dumb policy also need to support the status quo that is the reason for existence for DEA, and very much for BOP.
 
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