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Prisoner Run Drug Ring Busted In Ohio

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How the hell does someone run a drug ring from prison? That by itself makes this case ridiculous. And, it makes me wonder what the hell is going on in our prison system.

Pike County task force busts drug trafficking ring run by Ohio prisoner | WBNS-10TV Columbus, Ohio | Columbus News, Weather & Sports

The Sheriff said the investigation prompted his alert last week about deadly doses of drugs heading into his county.

Thirty-one year-old Richard Smith is already serving an eight-year sentence on drug trafficking charges.

But Pike County Sheriff Charles Reader says that didn't stop him from leading a drug ring from behind prison walls, with a whole team of people moving drugs and money in and out of Pike County.
 
I'm not surprised. Money talks and being a C.O. Is a dangerous and thankless job for not the best pay or conditions.

Could also be the effect of Private prisons who are known to hire contractors and others on the cheap. Or maybe, it's just typical American permissiveness. After all, people from other countries consider our prisons a joke.

For example, check out this problem.

Inmates party, display drugs & cash in Facebook posts & video - WSMV Channel 4

NASHVILLE, TN (WSMV) -
A Channel 4 I-Team investigation reveals more than 100 inmates in Tennessee prisons operating their own Facebook pages, displaying photos and videos of drugs, cash and parties while they are behind bars.
 
How the hell does someone run a drug ring from prison? That by itself makes this case ridiculous. And, it makes me wonder what the hell is going on in our prison system.

Pike County task force busts drug trafficking ring run by Ohio prisoner | WBNS-10TV Columbus, Ohio | Columbus News, Weather & Sports

There are a lot of civilians working in prisons and security is not as tight as you see on tv except in super max type prisons so cell phones are common as are visits with gang members.
 
There are a lot of civilians working in prisons and security is not as tight as you see on tv except in super max type prisons so cell phones are common as are visits with gang members.

Check out post 3. Blows my mind.
 
Could also be the effect of Private prisons who are known to hire contractors and others on the cheap. Or maybe, it's just typical American permissiveness. After all, people from other countries consider our prisons a joke.

For example, check out this problem.

Inmates party, display drugs & cash in Facebook posts & video - WSMV Channel 4

Prison is no longer the deterrent it used to be. The liberal policies on inmates "rights" are accomplishing nothing but what you see now. They have more rights and comforts than most of the people out on the streets NOT committing crimes. Hell, they get a free college education. When someone gets out of prison, they need to be of the thought that it was the worst thing ever, and not want to ever go back.
 
Prison is no longer the deterrent it used to be. The liberal policies on inmates "rights" are accomplishing nothing but what you see now. They have more rights and comforts than most of the people out on the streets NOT committing crimes. Hell, they get a free college education. When someone gets out of prison, they need to be of the thought that it was the worst thing ever, and not want to ever go back.

Actually most don't "re offend" again. The repeat offenders often are often ones who are so institutionalized from so many years in the joint, they can't make it on the outside having to deal with money, bills, drugs and alcohol, and prison buddies, women, and other social relationships.

They are square pegs in societies round holes.
 
How the hell does someone run a drug ring from prison? That by itself makes this case ridiculous. And, it makes me wonder what the hell is going on in our prison system.

Pike County task force busts drug trafficking ring run by Ohio prisoner | WBNS-10TV Columbus, Ohio | Columbus News, Weather & Sports

Ohio is one of the most corrupt states in the USA. At least that is what I read some years ago in which an author backed it up by pointing out--if I remember correctly--that something like 40 politicians in Northern Ohio had Federal indictments brought down on them over a span of 10 years.

But that is at the state level. We (regular folks) don't know if--or if so how much--corruption at the Federal level is involved in trafficking into the country that heroin that the Ohio prison gang in your link was going to sell on the streets.

Responsibility and accountability are not one and the same. They differ like discrimination and racism. You can be given great amount of responsibility due to your position in government but hold little to zero accountability. In terms of the law that latter means you are able to be questioned (interrogated) and probably more importantly you are subject to the law like everyone else and can go to prison for misconduct or violating the law. Whether one is a Democrat or Republican once you are enthroned as a Federal politician in the United States its almost impossible to have any accountability (beyond being questioned, but you are even protected from much of that).

Trump is an outlier in that Republicans and Democrats in Government are trying to set him up and demand more accountability out him than perhaps any US President in my life time.






I didn't know the US Government and Bolivian Government got into the drug running business with a Nazi war criminal. You see... when you arrest smaller scale drug dealers on the streets of America but allow Federal drug dealers or their business partners in cartels to sell massive shipments of drugs into the USA then you are holding bottom rung Americans "accountable" before the law but not the Big Fish in Government.






So, the CIA were shipping in kilos of heroin to mainland USA in the containers of dead American GI's from the Vietnam War. Because they are so patriotic. And Democrats yell "how dare" Donald Trump even question the integrity and moral superiority of the CIA. I also didn't know Oliver North in his diaries spoke about being involved in getting kilos or tons of illegal drugs shipped into the USA. I believe he was part of the Republican faction. Basically establishment Democrats and Republicans.



In terms of the Ohio prison story, my guess (I don't know for fact) is that if the phones were used to run a drug business of significant size, even if speaking in code language, odds are at least some Corrections Officers were getting some payoffs or something. But my guess could be wrong. It's not always easy to figure out and catch things right away.
 
Ohio is one of the most corrupt states in the USA. At least that is what I read some years ago in which an author backed it up by pointing out--if I remember correctly--that something like 40 politicians in Northern Ohio had Federal indictments brought down on them over a span of 10 years.

But that is at the state level. We (regular folks) don't know if--or if so how much--corruption at the Federal level is involved in trafficking into the country that heroin that the Ohio prison gang in your link was going to sell on the streets.

Responsibility and accountability are not one and the same. They differ like discrimination and racism. You can be given great amount of responsibility due to your position in government but hold little to zero accountability. In terms of the law that latter means you are able to be questioned (interrogated) and probably more importantly you are subject to the law like everyone else and can go to prison for misconduct or violating the law. Whether one is a Democrat or Republican once you are enthroned as a Federal politician in the United States its almost impossible to have any accountability (beyond being questioned, but you are even protected from much of that).

Trump is an outlier in that Republicans and Democrats in Government are trying to set him up and demand more accountability out him than perhaps any US President in my life time.






I didn't know the US Government and Bolivian Government got into the drug running business with a Nazi war criminal. You see... when you arrest smaller scale drug dealers on the streets of America but allow Federal drug dealers or their business partners in cartels to sell massive shipments of drugs into the USA then you are holding bottom rung Americans "accountable" before the law but not the Big Fish in Government.






So, the CIA were shipping in kilos of heroin to mainland USA in the containers of dead American GI's from the Vietnam War. Because they are so patriotic. And Democrats yell "how dare" Donald Trump even question the integrity and moral superiority of the CIA. I also didn't know Oliver North in his diaries spoke about being involved in getting kilos or tons of illegal drugs shipped into the USA. I believe he was part of the Republican faction. Basically establishment Democrats and Republicans.



In terms of the Ohio prison story, my guess (I don't know for fact) is that if the phones were used to run a drug business of significant size, even if speaking in code language, odds are at least some Corrections Officers were getting some payoffs or something. But my guess could be wrong. It's not always easy to figure out and catch things right away.

They use cell phones not the jail phones. But I'm sure that some CO's are in on it. They have to be.

As for Ohio being most corrupt. There may have been a time when the Northern part of the state had a lot of it. But, nowadays, not so much. Most corrupt state, IMO, is Illinois.

CIA and drug smuggling? Yes. It's a conspiracy theory which has been proven to be true.
 
Check out post 3. Blows my mind.

I don't envy those guys though. That is no vacation to me. It's not even a "neighborhood" (social environment), so-to-speak, I would want to be in.


I'd rather be in a "neighborhood" (social environment) like this: Lisbon, Portugal:



I don't like "drama" and social environments where people are being mean to each other. And money is money. You need it. It gives you external freedom (e.g., movement, travel, buy things) but alone of itself it can't bring you happiness and ultimately it is just paper, coins, or electronic digits. Money comes and goes. Yeah, you want to respect it and save some, but always trying to hog money and nearly worshiping it goes too far in my view. If I have $200,000 in cash I'm fine, let alone $2 million in cash. I'm not trying to murder people so I can get $20 million or $2 billion. That is pure greed. And that is a lot of those guys in prison. Except, a lot of them never even made $200,000. Rather, they might have had $10,000 or $20,000 in cash at once, when they were free on the streets. Now behind bars 24 hours (break that down in dollars or cents per hour as a wage) for years they give the government their time for less money than E-1's in the US military.

(Kind of like... if you're going to commit car theft why do you have to kill someone and turn it into a homicide? :roll: Odds are high you *will* get caught, so, now you are being tried more years for murder, for a car you might have sold on the black market for $4,000. And if you get 30 years in prison for murder, then divide $4,000 by 30 and see how much money per year you ultimately gave up 30 years of your life for--lt alone took another person's life.)
 
They use cell phones not the jail phones. But I'm sure that some CO's are in on it. They have to be.

As for Ohio being most corrupt. There may have been a time when the Northern part of the state had a lot of it. But, nowadays, not so much. Most corrupt state, IMO, is Illinois.

CIA and drug smuggling? Yes. It's a conspiracy theory which has been proven to be true.

Yeah, Illinois is definitely corrupt. More so than Wisconsin. Springfield politics more so than Madison politics. Wisconsin in general is pretty good.

You are probably right about the cellphones. I don't know how I did not realize or think of that. :doh
 
Prison is no longer the deterrent it used to be. The liberal policies on inmates "rights" are accomplishing nothing but what you see now. They have more rights and comforts than most of the people out on the streets NOT committing crimes. Hell, they get a free college education. When someone gets out of prison, they need to be of the thought that it was the worst thing ever, and not want to ever go back.

When was prison ever a deterrent?

We've had prisons for a long time, and yet crimes are still committed. Clearly you cannot establish a cause and effect relationship between the use of incarceration and crime rates. It is a false comparison, but very popular.

Yes, for certain timid individuals they might say "I don't want to go to prison", but that does not really support your general statement.

At best, prison is simply a way to punish people for their transgressions. Presumably a "civilized" way to deal with transgressions.

Just as keeping a dog in a cage will usually make him vicious, the same will happen to the human.
 
That drugs are being sold in prison is simply another fact demonstrating the complete failure of the drug prohibition. It is another example of the many social pathologies generated by extremely harmful public policy.
 
When was prison ever a deterrent?

We've had prisons for a long time, and yet crimes are still committed. Clearly you cannot establish a cause and effect relationship between the use of incarceration and crime rates. It is a false comparison, but very popular.

Yes, for certain timid individuals they might say "I don't want to go to prison", but that does not really support your general statement.

At best, prison is simply a way to punish people for their transgressions. Presumably a "civilized" way to deal with transgressions.

Just as keeping a dog in a cage will usually make him vicious, the same will happen to the human.


Yeah, prison can be a deterrent for many. But for many--depending on the environment they come from as well as their age--it does not appear to be a deterrent at all. Actually, in my view the violence inside US prisons, Brazilian prisons, Venezuelan prisons only make the violence on the streets of their respective countries worse. Of the three Venezuela has the worst.

Former President Hugo Chavez is one of the few Presidents of the world to actually have been (living in) in a prison before. In a biography I read of him I recall him describing hearing the screams of some young man being gang raped in prison, then stabbed to death by his rapists.

Yet... violence and crime in Venezuela is through the roof.

Unlike the USA the living conditions in Brazilian and Venezuelan prisons are apocalyptic. Literally. And literally more nightmarish than the rural poverty of the so called "Dark Ages" of Europe. Even the urban living conditions of the slums of Brazil and Indonesia are apocalyptic whereas the rural poverty (not urban poverty) of the "Dark Ages" were rather heavenly in comparison.







So, what is Canada and Northern Europe doing differently?



 
Germany is what... part of Central Europe? I'm American and bad with geography.

Anyways... German prisons vs American prisons.




Published on Feb 1, 2016

What is incarceration for and is there a case for retribution? This panel compares America’s punitive prisons and Germany’s rehabilitation centered system during Tina Brown Live Media's American Justice Summit in New York City.




Xatar in Prison: VICE INTL (Germany)
Published on Dec 23, 2014

Giwar Hajabi, aka Xatar, is a German rapper of Iranian descent who was released from Prison in December, 2014. He was originally sentenced to eight years in jail after robbing a gold transporter in 2009, stealing gold worth $2.2 million (and it's still missing). Previous offenses included breaking a playboy bunny's nose in Hugh Hefner's mansion during a trip to the USA, and alleged drug dealing during a stay in London. After the gold robbery, he fled to Iraq via Moscow where he was jailed, tortured, and finally handed over to Germany.

VICE Germany was the only camera team admitted during his stay in prison. In Xatar in Prison, we discuss his newly-found religious beliefs, follow him around during a typical day in jail, and attend a group therapy session. While assuring everyone that he has changed, his and his labels' music continue to spread messages of crime and violence. One of his most notorious music videos showed the exact circumstances of the gold robbery months before he actually committed the crime.
 
#s 3 to 1 is just like Wow! :shock:



5 Nicest Prisons In The World!



And then we have LA.





And the Big Dogs, Rio's renowned BOPE, probably the best urban fighters on the planet, waiting and prepared for Rio's hard criminals to return to the streets causing mayhem.

 
Thank you Fast Pace, you are so right.

Somebody observed decades ago that one can really judge a country, a culture, by its prisons. If humans can actually be civilized, certainly the conditions in their prisons determines the degree of civilization.

I think it was Michael Moore's movie "Where to Invade Next?" that showed a bit of some of the European systems as you describe. Very informative.
 
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