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Do Democrats think all religious views must be subjected to leftist secularist approval?

HonestJoe said:
You are simply wrong;

“New Mexico Statutes Chapter 28. Human Rights § 28-1-7. Unlawful discriminatory practice”

“It is an unlawful discriminatory practice for:…

… any person in any public accommodation to make a distinction, directly or indirectly, in offering or refusing to offer its services, facilities, accommodations or goods to any person because of race, religion, color, national origin, ancestry, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, spousal affiliation or physical or mental handicap, provided that the physical or mental handicap is unrelated to a person's ability to acquire or rent and maintain particular real property or housing accommodation;” (my emphasis)

source : New Mexico Statutes Chapter 28. Human Rights SS 28-1-7 | FindLaw
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Now you've ruined the whine party.
 
VanceMack said:
I absolutely answered the question. Its obvious I disagree with your assertion. But since you make the assertion that God made sodomites in effect stating they have no choice but to be what they are, do you extend that belief universally? Do you believe God made pedophiles? Do you believe God made rapists? Do you believe God made murderers?
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Talk about false equivalents. Ever hear of 'argumentum ad absurdum'? Pedophiles hurt people, rapists hurt people, murderers hurt people. Gay people don't, not by being gay.
Whether you believe God made people gay or not depends first on believing God makes anyone the way they are but if you believe God made you and everyone else you probably believe God doesn't make people hurt other people. Sound reasonable to you?
 
Hamish Howl said:
I really can't see any difference in the beliefs of conservative christians and conservative muslims.

It's the same crap in a different wrapper.
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The difference is: One has beards.
 
beefheart said:
The difference is: One has beards.
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I offer up Ken Ham's paltry attempt at a patriarchal beard as a counterexample. Also, that freak up in Phoenix who wants Gay people to be stoned to death.

Beards are in with the extremists, right now. Problem is, they can't seem to grow proper ones.
 
HonestJoe said:
You are simply wrong;

“New Mexico Statutes Chapter 28. Human Rights § 28-1-7. Unlawful discriminatory practice”

“It is an unlawful discriminatory practice for:…

… any person in any public accommodation to make a distinction, directly or indirectly, in offering or refusing to offer its services, facilities, accommodations or goods to any person because of race, religion, color, national origin, ancestry, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, spousal affiliation or physical or mental handicap, provided that the physical or mental handicap is unrelated to a person's ability to acquire or rent and maintain particular real property or housing accommodation;” (my emphasis)

source : New Mexico Statutes Chapter 28. Human Rights SS 28-1-7 | FindLaw
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What sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, or mental handicap is a Christian discriminating against by stating that his Christian views will not allow him to take part in an immoral ceremony? Homosexuals who target Christians for harassment, knowing they cannot participate in homosexual weddings and yet attempting to force them to violate their Christian convictions are discriminating against Christians and violating their Constitutional right to freely exercise their religion. Let the homosexuals hire someone else and stop harassing Christians.

To hell with any and all laws designed to force Christians to disobey God and trash their Christian convictions.
 
Speak, mouthpiece

marke said:
Don't be silly. The Bible tells us that men should work or not eat and that in all labor there is profit. God wants Christians to work and make enough profit to satisfy their physical needs.
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Seriously? If we have the definition right, the Christian God has but to will something, & it miraculously happens. So if God wants something to happen, it does.

Please explain what the limitation is on God's power, since you have the temerity to speak for Him.
 
marke said:
It is illegal for a modern governing body or court to tell a Christian he must sacrifice his religious beliefs and do what a homosexual asks him to do because the desires of homosexuals take precedence over a Christian's right to believe and serve God.
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I thank god stuff like that doesnt happen in america!! that sounds terrible, if you can you should leave your country and come to America!!!!!
 
marke said:
No, atheistic anti-discrimination laws do not apply to the mistreatment of Christians. Atheists, humanists, hedonists, homosexuals and other leftist barbarians use anti-discrimination laws to totally discriminate against Christians for honoring their religious convictions.
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DRINK!!!!

nobody honest, educated and objective is buying your posted lies LMAO
 
marke said:
What sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, or mental handicap is a Christian discriminating against by stating that his Christian views will not allow him to take part in an immoral ceremony? Homosexuals who target Christians for harassment, knowing they cannot participate in homosexual weddings and yet attempting to force them to violate their Christian convictions are discriminating against Christians and violating their Constitutional right to freely exercise their religion. Let the homosexuals hire someone else and stop harassing Christians.

To hell with any and all laws designed to force Christians to disobey God and trash their Christian convictions.
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This is the most dishonest thing I read today and thats saying something!!! Looks like your posted lies fail again.

Theres nothing in my Christian faith that tells me to:

- open up a business
- choose public access business instead of private one
- agree to the rules, laws and regulations of said business
- sell a particular item
- break the law and illegally discriminate against people


those are all CHOICES


if you disagree please show me in my faith where if i dont do those things above it forces me to violate my Christian convictions, interferes with my right to freely exercise my religion and forces me to disobey god



this is going to be good!!!! :popcorn2:
 
AGENT J said:
I thank god stuff like that doesnt happen in america!! that sounds terrible, if you can you should leave your country and come to America!!!!!
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Let the "Goddamn America" disgruntled seditionists leave instead. Christians were here first.
 
marke said:
It seems modern leftist Americans have no mercy on Christians who stand against homosexuality because God opposes sodomy. Should the state allow those Christians to be destroyed by the wicked for refusing to compromise their beliefs in the face of growing hostility against Christian beliefs?



Govt punishment of NM photographer stands, compelled speech problem unresolved…for now
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Dawww they’re persecuting the christians again! Booo hooooo why cant those gays just shut up and let us make their lives living hell?
 
AGENT J said:
This is the most dishonest thing I read today and thats saying something!!! Looks like your posted lies fail again.

Theres nothing in my Christian faith that tells me to:

- open up a business
- choose public access business instead of private one
- agree to the rules, laws and regulations of said business
- sell a particular item
- break the law and illegally discriminate against people
those are all CHOICES
if you disagree please show me in my faith where if i dont do those things above it forces me to violate my Christian convictions, interferes with my right to freely exercise my religion and forces me to disobey god
this is going to be good!!!! :popcorn2:
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In a free society (not under communism) it is not against the law for a business to set its own rules. A businessman can set his own hours. He can require a dress code. He can limit his product. He can cater to a distinct clientele, and so forth. But he cannot offer services to whites and not blacks based upon skin color. Racial discrimination is not a Biblical teaching and cannot be used as justification in America for refusing service to people of one color and not another.

But discrimination against skin color is not the same as discrimination against sin. A Christian should never service members of a lynch mob, a party of gang members preparing for a shootout with police, a murderer on the run, or nudist colonies and sex parties, among other things. A Christian must obey God no matter what kinds of laws unbelievers come up to contradict God.
 
marke said:
What sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, or mental handicap is a Christian discriminating against by stating that his Christian views will not allow him to take part in an immoral ceremony?
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That wasn't the aspect we were discussing. You said that anti-discrimination laws don't protect Christians and I showed you were wrong. I've no interest in discussing anything with you further if you're unwilling or unable to acknowledge factual information and admit to your mistakes.
 
marke said:
You are right. God was here before anybody.
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Look we are both citizens. This is not just your playground and i am not leaving and you have no power to kick me out so just learn to live with the fact that you do not rule over these lands.
 
Spirit in the sky

marke said:
Let the "Goddamn America" disgruntled seditionists leave instead. Christians were here first.
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No. See Indigenous peoples of the Americas - Wikipedia

The estimates for when the Native Peoples arrived in the Americas seems to coalesce around 16,500 years ago (considerably before 1492CE), with the upper range going much higher. So no, of the major religions present now in the New World, Christianity was probably dead last.
 
marke said:
It seems modern leftist Americans have no mercy on Christians who stand against homosexuality because God opposes sodomy. Should the state allow those Christians to be destroyed by the wicked for refusing to compromise their beliefs in the face of growing hostility against Christian beliefs?



Govt punishment of NM photographer stands, compelled speech problem unresolved…for now
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The middle east is calling you, they're missing an extremist. Your god is not my god so please don't saddle me with your beliefs about your god.
 
HonestJoe said:
That wasn't the aspect we were discussing. You said that anti-discrimination laws don't protect Christians and I showed you were wrong. I've no interest in discussing anything with you further if you're unwilling or unable to acknowledge factual information and admit to your mistakes.
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Discriminating against skin color is wrong. Discriminating against sin is not wrong.
 
bomberfox said:
Look we are both citizens. This is not just your playground and i am not leaving and you have no power to kick me out so just learn to live with the fact that you do not rule over these lands.
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I never suggested you leave. I was responding to a suggestion that I should leave just because one proud individual did not like my views.
 
marke said:
Let the "Goddamn America" disgruntled seditionists leave instead. Christians were here first.
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Oh, those wonderful christians who came upon the 'savages' and the 'savages' either converted to their loving god or the wonderful christians killed them. The native americans were here before the christians.

I have not noticed a single church closed due to attacks on christianity. Seems to me it's the christians always attacking those who don't believe.
 
Re: Spirit in the sky

southwest88 said:
No. See Indigenous peoples of the Americas - Wikipedia

The estimates for when the Native Peoples arrived in the Americas seems to coalesce around 16,500 years ago (considerably before 1492CE), with the upper range going much higher. So no, of the major religions present now in the New World, Christianity was probably dead last.
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God was here first, and from the beginning of American immigration He allowed squatters to come and set up homesteads here according to His permissive will.
 
bongsaway said:
Oh, those wonderful christians who came upon the 'savages' and the 'savages' either converted to their loving god or the wonderful christians killed them. The native americans were here before the christians.

I have not noticed a single church closed due to attacks on christianity. Seems to me it's the christians always attacking those who don't believe.
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Christians do not attack savages in homosexual churches but homosexuals have attacked Christian churches in my lifetime. Most protests outside of churches were non-violent, but some involved acts of violence and intimidation of innocent church-goers.

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marke said:
Let the "Goddamn America" disgruntled seditionists leave instead. Christians were here first.
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Another factually wrong claim, again why do you post so many lies? LMAO
 
marke said:
1.)In a free society (not under communism) it is not against the law for a business to set its own rules. A businessman can set his own hours. He can require a dress code. He can limit his product. He can cater to a distinct clientele, and so forth. But he cannot offer services to whites and not blacks based upon skin color. Racial discrimination is not a Biblical teaching and cannot be used as justification in America for refusing service to people of one color and not another.

But discrimination against skin color is not the same as discrimination against sin. A Christian should never service members of a lynch mob, a party of gang members preparing for a shootout with police, a murderer on the run, or nudist colonies and sex parties, among other things. A Christian must obey God no matter what kinds of laws unbelievers come up to contradict God.
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LMAO did i call it or did i call it!!!
I knew ths is would be good

again your country sounds horrible you should try to come to America!!

Anyway no where in that incoherent rant did you answer my question . . so ill ask you AGAIN and try not to dodge it only makes your post fail harder

Theres nothing in my Christian faith that tells me to:

- open up a business
- choose public access business instead of private one
- agree to the rules, laws and regulations of said business
- sell a particular item
- break the law and illegally discriminate against people
those are all CHOICES
if you disagree please show me in my faith where if i dont do those things above it forces me to violate my Christian convictions, interferes with my right to freely exercise my religion and forces me to disobey god
 
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