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Yes Democrats ARE racist, the case is closed and there is no dispute

EMNofSeattle

EMNofSeattle

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So in Washington we had an initiate to the legislature, I-1000 which repeals a law that specified that the State of Washington MAY NOT in ANY WAY discriminate against anyone because of their race. Well when pure meritocracy is the law blacks don’t do as well and so the democrats decided to screw over the Asians and repeal our law mandating the state not engage in racism.

This was challenged to a referendum vote and a vote to reject R-88 would reimpose Washington’s previous law stating the State SHALL NOT discriminate against any person on basis of race.

Well guess who is voting for racism? Washington’s four most liberal counties including King County and the City of Seattle. And there is a chance that racism will win at the ballot box because of the democrats. Fellow conservatives, Mark this day down, from this day forward do not allow any democrat to claim they are not racist, because the lost liberal part of the country is overwhelmingly voting for state racism.

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Affirmative Action is imo racist, as democrats view black people as unable to get up in American society without help.
 
enderpotato00 said:
Affirmative Action is imo racist, as democrats view black people as unable to get up in American society without help.
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The bigotry of low expectations as Sowell puts it.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
Well when pure meritocracy is the law blacks don’t do as well
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13% of the population was brutally reduced to 0% of the power. It has since managed, despite obstacles, to attain about 3% of the power. The other 10% remains in the hands of racists.

That's why "blacks don't do as well". They were hit with a 100% death tax, complete disenfranchisement and utter demonization for decades after. Racism is why "blacks don't do as well" and your OP is part of it.
 
I don’t necessarily approve of affirmative action, but I disagree it’s inherently racist.

You can truly believe that if everyone were on a level playing field they would do equally well and at the same time truly believe there isn’t a level playing field. I’d argue that isn’t believing in any inherent differences, and therefore racist wouldnt be applicable.
 
Anagram said:
I don’t necessarily approve of affirmative action, but I disagree it’s inherently racist.

You can truly believe that if everyone were on a level playing field they would do equally well and at the same time truly believe there isn’t a level playing field. I’d argue that isn’t believing in any inherent differences, and therefore racist wouldnt be applicable.
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I think the status of the playing field is irrelevant.

For two reasons

1) a pure meritocracy is the most efficient way of allocation of resources.
Asians disproportionately in Washington go to advanced schools and classes and if they’re just better at getting into professional careers and education then society is best off making sure the finite resources go to getting them into those positions.

2) bringing less qualified people into schools and employment is a recipe for failure for those people. after the famous Bakke case on affirmative action in California, Ted Kennedy gave a speech praising a man named Patrick Chavis who had been admitted to Medical School over Bakke on an affirmative action program. Chavis eventually lossed his medical license after repeated violations of professional standards (he should’ve lossed his license earlier but he played the race card and was allowed to continue practicing) the resulted in the death of a patient.

The status of the playing field is irrelevant, and I don’t think you can argue first and second generation Americans who’s parents came from Vietnam or Cambodia or Korea lacking two nickels to rub together (especially the Vietnamese who got screwed by the liberal democrats on the war and later the libbos tried to stop the boat people from arriving here as refugees) were especially privileged to start with.
 
ecofarm said:
13% of the population was brutally reduced to 0% of the power. It has since managed, despite obstacles, to attain about 3% of the power. The other 10% remains in the hands of racists.

That's why "blacks don't do as well". They were hit with a 100% death tax, complete disenfranchisement and utter demonization for decades after. Racism is why "blacks don't do as well" and your OP is part of it.
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I recommend the essay “Black Rednecks and White Liberals” by Thomas Sowell.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
I recommend the essay “Black Rednecks and White Liberals” by Thomas Sowell.
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How many decades you been raking that token over the coals?
 
ecofarm said:
How many decades you been raking that token over the coals?
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Ah so Thomas Sowell, famed economist, Harvard Graduate and US Marine is just a token in your eyes?

Got it.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
Ah so Thomas Sowell, famed economist, Harvard Graduate and US Marine is just a token in your eyes?

Got it.
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He's second only to a misinterpretation of Dr. King in the Racists' Handbook.

Busting out Sowell is basically a dog whistle.
 
ecofarm said:
He's second only to a misinterpretation of Dr. King in the Racists' Handbook.

Busting out Sowell is basically a dog whistle.
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I think you’re just terrified of a strong black man publishing works of economics that expose the stupidity of your world view
 
EMNofSeattle said:
I think you’re just terrified of a strong black man publishing works of economics that expose the stupidity of your world view
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I'm fiscally conservative and your dumbass racist crap doesn't confront me.
 
ecofarm said:
I'm fiscally conservative and your dumbass racist crap doesn't confront me.
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No you’re not.

If you support left wing social causes you by definition are not fiscally conservative. There is a great lie running around that fiscal and social issue can be disconnected from each other, that works nowhere in practice
 
EMNofSeattle said:
No you’re not.

If you support left wing social causes you by definition are not fiscally conservative. There is a great lie running around that fiscal and social issue can be disconnected from each other, that works nowhere in practice
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I won't be lectured to by your ilk.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
No you’re not.

If you support left wing social causes you by definition are not fiscally conservative. There is a great lie running around that fiscal and social issue can be disconnected from each other, that works nowhere in practice
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I disagree with you here. But its a very fine line that Eco has to tread and I don't support much of any of his views when it comes to affirmative racism or trying to justify punishing more qualified individuals because they might be the sons and daughters of boat people rather than the great great great great great grandchildren of an African who was sold into slavery by another African. I haven't seen Eco really push for left wing economic programs.
 
Hamish Howl said:
Ooookay.
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His point generally has merit. There are numerous articles that studied the impact or potential impact of race blind admissions into California's two flagship public universities (UCLA and UC-B). Now it has been awhile since I read those studies, but the impact, IIRC would be far less blacks and far more Asians attending those two premier institutions.,
 
TurtleDude said:
His point generally has merit. There are numerous articles that studied the impact or potential impact of race blind admissions into California's two flagship public universities (UCLA and UC-B). Now it has been awhile since I read those studies, but the impact, IIRC would be far less blacks and far more Asians attending those two premier institutions.,
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I'd have to see those studies and make sure Richard Herrnstein and Charles Murray weren't involved.

Fact is, OP was blatantly dragging his knuckles.
 
Hamish Howl said:
I'd have to see those studies and make sure Richard Herrnstein and Charles Murray weren't involved.

Fact is, OP was blatantly dragging his knuckles.
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I disagree about the OP.
 
TurtleDude said:
I disagree with you here. But its a very fine line that Eco has to tread and I don't support much of any of his views when it comes to affirmative racism or trying to justify punishing more qualified individuals because they might be the sons and daughters of boat people rather than the great great great great great grandchildren of an African who was sold into slavery by another African. I haven't seen Eco really push for left wing economic programs.
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I think in a society of binary elections it’s a meaningless difference.

Left wing social policy requires massive government overhead to enforce, so even if you claim to be for a tax cut here and there then the truth is if you’re voting for people who support a leftist social agenda you are buying the whole package and you should be ok with that. There is actually many things I don’t technically agree with Trump on, but I will never publically say so, I voted for him knowing there is a package deal and his shortcomings are ones I can live with


The thing is, certain affirmative action policies are ok, but the difference is between the conservative and the liberal
Is that the conservative by definition wants public order and efficiency. It might be ok to hire a lot of black cops to police black neighborhoods if that is what Is needed to put black criminals in jail, but leftists want affirmative action to impose a utopian vision of society where somehow every demographic group is equally represented in every job and school even though the different groups by their own decisions don’t even want such a thing
 
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Hamish Howl said:
I hated that dude like poison. At the moment, I kinda miss him.
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I just happen to have this on file here...

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And this one (good times)...

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And this is the shirt I wore to grad classes after Bush's re-election. It reads, under a likeness of Che with Bush's face imposed, "Viva La Re Election!"

How perfect is that for uni.

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People wept. A professor remarked, "how can you wear that ugly face" to which I replied "how can you talk politics in class".
 
ecofarm said:
People wept. A professor remarked, "how can you wear that ugly face" to which I replied "how can you talk politics in class".
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I can't argue with this.

Fortunately, I never ran into a professor dumb enough to talk politics. None of them had tenure, which is why they were exiled to the ass end of nowhere, and they took no chances ever.

I mean, aside from the political science classes I padded my degree with, and even they tried to stick to actual political theory (with varying degrees of success...I would have loved to play poker against them).
 
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