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Individual State's Ratings - Must be measured differently - it must have respect for Hard Numbers

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Look at Population Density by State

What are the most densely populated states in the United States of America? Here is a list of the top ten states with the largest population density:

District of Columbia (Population density: 11,665 people per square mile)
New Jersey (Population density: 1,213 people per square mile)
Rhode Island (Population density: 1,022 people per square mile)
Puerto Rico (Population density: 900 people per square mile)
Massachusetts (Population density: 890 people per square mile)
Connecticut (Population density: 737 people per square mile)
Maryland (Population density: 625 people per square mile)
Delaware (Population density: 500 people per square mile)
New York (Population density: 414 people per square mile)
Florida (Population density: 404 people per square mile).


The basic numbers tell us that measurements are difficult to factor. Working age people, school age people, available industry, natural resources, habitable terrain, income levels, tax revenue and land values, public transportation systems, educational investment, investment in Medical care and assistance to the challenged within the population, commercial and non profit organizations, and many many many factors that make up what comprise Cities, Towns and Rural Communities within States.

America's greatest crisis has been Race Bias... over 100's of years that created disproportional equity among the people of the nation. Followed by Politics built upon and through Race Bias.

Job types that people are unwilling to do, and other job types that people are limited in access to by the systems impacts based on race bias.

These things have to change... Going forward in the 21st Century and beyond... America will transform in returning to the principles established within and of its own Declaration of Independence.

It has taken 100's of years to work in process to turn back to the original premise of the passage of that system by documented statue of that Declaration of Independence.

Race Bias has no place in the 21st Century nor will it gain any stature to continue its selections of who is enfranchised and who is disenfranchised based on race, ethnicity and historical cultural lineage.

Technology, Bio-Technology and Renewable Energy is changing the world ... Technology today is developing means to feed multiple times the number of people on a single acre of land. Communication and Information Technology is increasing the educational capacity of individuals in tremendous expanse of capability to utilize knowledge. Renewable Energy will continue to advance until its cost is minimal to the systems, communities and industries that operate in nations. Transportation has advanced from humans just walking, to horse and buggy to the automobile, and now with the advent of electric trains and developments of tube systems to transport people... the future of transportation is at the break through point of creating even more new means to transport people, and new means to develop the capabilities of providing it.

Yesterdays is gone and no confabulations filled and embellished by the lust of nostalgia will turn back the world. Any who think they can cling to the past and recreate it, will suffer themselves greater devastations within a world that has and continues to change in every way. No farmers today dream of hitching a mule to a plow, just as no families dream of getting a covered wagon and team of horses to go to town or across country.

The days of people claiming jobs they won't do, is changing because technology has made it so. Example: There was a time when no white men dreamed or thought of having a career cutting lawns, but with the advances in riding lawn mowers, not only do white men seek out these jobs, some with college degree have chosen to pursue lawn cutting businesses. There is no more seeking out black people to pick cotton, becasue machines do it, and there is no more of situations where it takes a college degree to do what Spreadsheets can do and independent database can do with great efficiency without the need of a University Degree.
Young people develop computer applications that address any type of challenge they encounter and seek a means to address it.

All such thing will continue to change the nature of "States, and Cities, Towns, and Rural Communities within them.... Therefore... the old system of Measure will find its own needs to transform in ways to respect each state's uniqueness.
 
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The boom in Jobs over the next 20 yrs will have a lot to do with community renewals... Once the lending agency understands this market in its term of developmental needs, they will lend to this 'Reconstruction Boom"... Their Financing Model, may find itself reshaped in ways that change society, away from the 30 yr payment plan model. They can learn a great deal from Automotive Industry, who sells 60-70-80+K vehicles which can be paid off in 7 yrs or longer. As times change with better and more quality production of vehicles that use renewable energy, public systems of transportation improve, and many activities that take place in commercialism by online transaction, it may become less of a demand for individual vehicles. This can lend itself to people paying more for a shorter time on Home ownerships, home renewals and home upgrades and further driving the Reconstruction Boom. Add in the "technology that is currently being built into homes", and home-builders, also become technicians in how they incorporate this into an integrated model of modular and the usage of carpenters and contractors employing a new field of technology specialist.

Things we've seen the wealthy have done over the past 40 yrs, will become more common to the average home owner, home remodel, and the entirity of the re-construction boom.

We build a whole new economy, that will far exceed the economy America built based on the Automobile and Construction Boom of the 1940-1960. We saw the power of the Construction boom from the late 1980's through the early 2005-07.. but the price gouging set it back until it created a nationwide economic devastation. Something that should never have taken place in relations to the homes of people. But the Bond Market saw greed without reservation, and fueled a Real Estate Appraised Value spike that nearly took down America and caused economic ripples across the globe. Home price affordable stability is a key to a stable nation, it is key to how strong and stable communities can be and remain being, and it is key to how strong and stable our public education system becomes. The Transient Gypsies Model of the America Families has proven not to work nor the race bias built into that model. It has contributed to industrial failure, public school system damages, and set public schools back until we are 27th and falling in this nation of "transient student pupils" who can't stay in one place long enough to grow and build foundational relationship.
community cohesion is at the lowest it has been in American history. Diversity should by all means have created a more interactive diverse culture of communities, but the overtone of racial bias, and economic self measure and obsessions with material status has damaged communities from the poorest to the wealthiest. Yet, in the poorest communities, neighbors know each other in far better ways than in the well to do and wealthy communities on a everyday level and basis.

Lenders will find a way and understanding to learn that lower interest will allow them to provide the construction and re-construction loan, in ways that does not need the 30 yr model to realize the overall benefits. Already today, Financial Models are changing and will continue to change. These models will have deep reaching benefits across the entire systems of society. America is learning but its a hard lesson to digest because so many still worship the wealthy, but are being forced to face the system of greed that has devastated the nation and the future of their own offsprings. The 1980's delusion of "Greed is Good" is fast dying.


New Technological that will play into the 'Construction and Re-Construction" Boom over the near future.

Industrial production of prefab will be a large market, when panels and other modular elements. New Learning is key and with basic understanding people can be provided OJT (On The Job Training).. Something China had been doing for the past 45 yrs, successfully!!!! America once did it until "Executive Greed" destroyed that system and ultimately devastated American Industry. It set American back 45 yrs or more in functional capacity of its citizen populations.
 
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Many American communities were built in the late 1940's post World War II and into and through the 1960's.... which places these homes in the age range of nearly 50-80 yrs old.. many built with material in which some are today toxic. Some will have to be completely torn down, due to things like Asbestos and other painted over lead based paint, old heating and cooling systems and duct work that has accumulated levels of toxic build up over the span of time. There are many structural elements that are today, "outdated" and "non compliant".. The same as many of the homes build in the 1920's that required complete electrical re-work, and the old system of slat and mortar covered by plaster are non repairable to meet the new tech and the new development modifications.

Then, there is "weather damage"... many homes even built in the 1980's, 1990's and early 2000['s cannot withstand the changes in weather and wind, and were built with no amenities for personal protection. We see many built on slab, where the stick frame is blown off the slap leaving nothing but sticks and splinters.
Some in areas where slabs were built with no elevation to deal with extreme downpour, and others built without full detailed soil study and limited soil compaction.

The current models being built with stick frame on a cement slab with plumbing buried in the slap is a disaster waiting on a situation!!! Those being built with a stick frame covered by fiber board, some wrapped and stucco covered, and others with a non biding brick veneer, we see them blow away as the bricks fall to the ground.

This will not suffice for the future. Modular can be done with elevated slab construction with embedded steel frames, not the thin 3 sided aluminum/tin alloy being used today.

All these things means a "resurgence of steel industry" and once re-charged it will lend itself to home stability, that does not build the old model without cross slats to home the exterior walls, it will require cross slats to be built into the modular panels. that have multiple point connections to the main standing beams, and roofing will required down slats connected to the standing slats that will not render a roof the ease of blowing away.

There's a whole new world to come, but it won't come without society being educated on what is Climate Change and what necessity it brings, nor will it come without people being educated and aware of what and how new home-building technology should be applied.

Until people get over being excited at these stick frame, foam board wrapped potential death traps, with a non secure brick veneer.. it will be difficult to move it forward at the pace it needs to go.
Along with community rebuilding it requires 'rebuilding our 80yr plus in some areas sewer systems and water systems, and our electrical grid will need complete overhaul. Home built using renewable energy features will requires less demand on the type of electrical grids that have now become more than 100 yrs old...

Companies like General Electric who builds Transformers, should be on the front line leading, but their executive greed, has anesthetized the minds of the executives greed and own vain ego elation as their plants struggle from lack of innovative minds; minds, which are stifled by executives trying to feed greed based wealth into the pockets of stock holders.

If our Stock Market does not recapture its reason and basis for existing, it will damage us for the next two decades until it is forced to embrace its original model and design. That design was for Long Term investors, it was not designed as a get rich scheme, nor one that makes a Kings Ransom every three months or for Day trades convoluted it, or financial destructive instruments that has bastardized it to an extreme degree. It is today, based on speculator fictions, that has no end result other than to destroy companions in a revolving cycle.
 
Mobile Homes have to change what they build... These "Tornado Magnets" they build today, will not suffice... I would not be surprised if a collection of people in ravaged areas at some point realize they can file a "Class Actions Suit" against the mobile home construction builders an their marketing of thse homes in areas that are prone to conditions that these home are not suited to exist. Its a Law Suit waiting to happen!!!!

They will have to abandon this model and go into the type of Modular, which I referenced in the above postings, and this will be supported by the larger settlement of contractors, carpenters and others, including advancing to be supported by the steel industries. What Today's Mobile Home builders build, is only suitable for them to build components for the "internal cavity" of homes built with quality external construction as discussed above.

Any home built on wheels will be truly for roadway mobility as in the Motor Home Markets, not to be placed as a residence in a fixed location.

As we learn more, we do more, but we have to learn better so that the more we pursue to do, is done with the quality standards to serve, protect and provide stability for people with long term durability.

There won't be any future high rises for Residents without having enlarged Freight Elevators, that people can move their desired products in and out with ease. This category of change will see many of the old run down types of building coming down.

All these things are the areas where America's New Industry is to grow.

Now, on the offshoot of using recycling. There has to come a mixture which can bond together 'finely ground (car, truck and other vehicle) tires' to be used into building "durable panels, whether its used in Slab Layers, or underpayment of highways and other types of panels, where the concentration is such that it does not lend itself to being highly flammable fuel. Therefore, it is likely to become a strengthening under layer in things that are not prone to fire damage. We cannot continue to pile them up across the nation with no focus on their viable usage.

These are things the minds of tomorrow will address... and America "will change"!!! Either we choose to lead in these changes or we can continue our racial bias ignorance and become 3rd tier followers....
 
The more production and competition that enters into these items discussed above will bring cost tumbling down. At present, it is likely to be the West Coast that will take the lead. They have the edge on many elements related to concerns for the climate, the ability to integrate technology into construction, and a population that is not constrained with the mindsets of trying to stagnate and home on to a past that is no longer beneficial to the advancements in society. I do think with the political minded in Texas who are showing change to understand and accept progressive development, that Texas will be a big player in how it helps influence society to adapt and embrace these needs of change. Areas that are slated to be impacted by rising Ocean water... will be others.
But then there's the International Community, who has shown tremendous ability to adapt to new technological modeling, which is China, South East Asia and the Arabian Peninsula. Some areas that have conditions that demand they embrace thinking different will be the Nordic Regions, who have a good tract record of investing for the future.

If Southern State and the Upper Eastern States can embrace change without invoking race bias... they can make great stride forward, as these are areas that suffer greatly from racial based disparities and biases and also have some of the oldest structures in America which fall into the category of 'UN-habitability" even based on the HUD standards of 40 yrs ago, and are far from meeting the HUD standards of habitability in 2019.

HUD will become a big players, once we get an Administration that is focused on building the Future and not trying to rile up people with delusions of recreating the past, then we will see the pace of our entrances into these progressive developments move with a demanding pace. Currently, people are unaware of the damages being done to HUD under Ben Carson and Trump programming... it is about "damage and dismantling"... they are fully unaware of how much and how instrumental HUD is to the growth and re-development of America.

When Betsy DeVos is removed from the Department of Education... we will see an investment in securing schools... with fencing, that appeals to students but is effective in protections of campuses, and we will see technology utilized in ways that it will be an intruders worst nightmare to try and invade.
When this trend starts it will also bring with it a Re-Construction in School Facilities... and again, all these things "means jobs" well into the next 50-100+ yrs. But it will requires an educating and training style that will change the nature of what is classroom education.
We are not paying attention... because now, before first grade many young kids are already capable of utilizing computerized technology.. they ingest information at a degree that is far greater than any generation before them.

While people get lost in the political madness of today... they are not focusing on this as being the downfall of the old system that was sadly based on "white nationalism" that marginalized not only minorities but poor whites... and we are breaking through that bubble every day. This is the last generation to have to deal with the dred's of what "white nationalism invoked in the damages it has done to America and how American pursues its future.
 
Gerrymandering... is becoming to face its death bed... as people realize they are and have been 'contained and played as "hoodwinking targets" captured within the lines drawn and redrawn based on a long history of race based bias for the aims of politicians to hold seat and push competitive agenda, that is destined to stagnate our Congressional Process... resulting in damages that go far and wide and leaves no family without adverse impacts.

The era of madness we face today, is waking people to the vile of partisanship which does not serve the progress America needs. it cannot hold on an create compartment of white nationalist agenda, nor of white nationalism ideals. The world and society is far beyond that old system and the damages it has invoked across the nation is and has for decades of decades devastated many, while leaving some areas to be function as if its still the late 1940's in decrepit conditions with hopelessness that is generations deep in damages.

America will move to "Term Limits" and "We will become A Nation with Federal, State and Local Campaign Financing". American can no longer be at the mercy of Lobbyist buying away the voice of the people as they purchase Political Figure to push their agenda.
When we move to Federal, State and Local Campaign Financing we will also move to see greater voter turn out.. when people come to accept that there will be no more "governing to protect a seat in government". We won't have canididate and elected officials, going into campaign mode as soon as they are elected. They will not be making decisions based on the agenda to "retain the seat".

Any political figure will be required to submit Financial Statement, not only before entering a race, but for a decade after they leave office, to ensure they do not collected deferred compensation for malice they may be tempted to engage.

Public Service will have no choice but to be a respected position and it will demand the highest integrity to utilize public funds to campaign. This means, the qualification standards will demand they have a person and individual history of public service work.. that is not based on profit based agenda.

Today, we have a broken system of which Money has broken it since the Days of the Rail Road, Oil and Steel Titans of the late 1800's. That model must be broken and destroyed.
 
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I'm somewhat amazed that people are not thinking about what our future holds in development potential, possibilities, and actual steps being engaged this very day to change America and the World.

Sadly, this is what happens when people get hung up in the 'daily drama spins", they loose the ability to have vision, thus making them susceptible to being overwhelmed and captured within the "drama antic's of the day", which changes by the day, as they tune in for the drama fix.

This is precisely why people cried "We've been left behind".. unfortunate as it is, they have chosen to be behind, and some turn to pursue any avenue they think will transport then back into the past. with a vain hope it can recreate a past that is filled with folklore based on confabulations to the degree, they have no awareness of the vile and malice that littered our past.

The world of tomorrow is for the visionaries of today, and time will sadly see a great many again, saying: "We've been left behind". The world of tomorrow has no place for sympathy for the ignorance of foolishness. The age of information is here "now"! Any who ignore to engage it, becomes their own driver of the challenges that will befall them.

For the masses, who willfully choose and find their beloved obsessions over skin color, will be their own Achilles heel. Such types of the working poor who fall into this category, have no understanding of the disenfranchisement within their own history. They will simply continue to repeat it into the future. That cycle is called "Insanity". For some its ingrained deep within them and wrapped in a vanity of haughitness and the pride of fools and no amount of therapy will suffice to bring them out of such cycles of insanity. Time does have a remedy, as they will age and they will die out; the greater hope is they don't infect their offsprings with such madness, and their offsprings awaken to the awareness of having been infected with such, and seek to find means to cure themselves of this malice groomed ideology.

The world won't slow down to await their development to make change... Each days the world moves on into the future, and it drags no one, but embrace those who march forth willingly with vision and openness to growth and change.

Information moves as the speed of thoughts, shared among many via the advance in technology. Materials of data, history of developments is now accessible to any who seek it out. Knowledge of centuries is at the finger tips for any who indulge themselves to seek it out.

No one will go back and see out means to build "wood burning stoves", nor will they go back and look for a sling blade to maintain cutting a lawn. The world has long moved forward with technological developments that perform the functions for such things at the touch of a finger.

One might ask if they think Kodak will go back to making mass volumes of film for camera's...and the answer is likely not!!! when technology allows people to take picture in limitless numbers and print them with the touch of a finger. Those who chase yesterday.... will find the rude awakening if they awaken, that the world has moved on.
 
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