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I am dying and able to early vote in May 2020, but it is unlikely that I will live to Nov. should my

joko104 said:
PS. That election official is an idiot. He also possibly could be prosecuted for making false threats of prosecution to try to stop someone from voting.
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I don't fault the election official as he did not know me or my party affiliation.

He just believed that and was in his interpretation, not what fit voting laws.
 
Superfly said:
Really hate to hear this, Dick. You haven’t been here for very long, but I have grown to like you, and look forward to your posts. Cancer is a nasty thing. Truly hope you can beat it. (hug)
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I wish it wasn't true ,but it is what it is.

I was only given a 25% chance of waking up from surgery in 2016 which means I have already been here longer than originally thought by my doctors.

I really appreciate your kind thoughts.

The cancer is stage 4 and terminal so beating it isn't a good option, but who knows. :cool:
 
Fletch said:
If I knew I would be gone by the end of May, the last thing I would be worried about would be whether or not my vote would count. :roll: And I certainly wouldnt waste my time posting here.
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When YOU reach the point that a computer is your strongest contact with the world you just might get it.

Visiting a grocery store or a walk around the block on a nice day has slipped away from me without assistance.
 
Dick Tornado said:
When YOU reach the point that a computer is your strongest contact with the world you just might get it.

Visiting a grocery store or a walk around the block on a nice day has slipped away from me without assistance.
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You know what? You are probably right. If I were in that condition, I might well be here. I spend a lot of time here now (too much probably) so I guess there is no reason to believe that I would not continue to do so.
 
Dick Tornado said:
I wish it wasn't true ,but it is what it is.

I was only given a 25% chance of waking up from surgery in 2016 which means I have already been here longer than originally thought by my doctors.

I really appreciate your kind thoughts.

The cancer is stage 4 and terminal so beating it isn't a good option, but who knows. :cool:
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(hug)
 
Dick Tornado said:
I wish it wasn't true ,but it is what it is.

I was only given a 25% chance of waking up from surgery in 2016 which means I have already been here longer than originally thought by my doctors.

I really appreciate your kind thoughts.

The cancer is stage 4 and terminal so beating it isn't a good option, but who knows. :cool:
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The least a man with your problems can get is everyone's input when it's politely requested.
 
Dick Tornado said:
I wish it wasn't true ,but it is what it is.

I was only given a 25% chance of waking up from surgery in 2016 which means I have already been here longer than originally thought by my doctors.

I really appreciate your kind thoughts.

The cancer is stage 4 and terminal so beating it isn't a good option, but who knows. :cool:
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Indycar driver Alex Zanardi said after surviving a wreck that amputated his legs and going on to race again "doctors are good people that save lives, but don't ever let them tell you what you can't do, because the odds are there to be beaten!".
 
Dick Tornado, my eye caught your thread while browsing and I stopped to write down a few things to say to you. I don't know you at all but nevertheless, I'll offer my opinion for better or worse. The first thing I want to say is that I'm sorry you're going through this, death is not a choice for any of us, it's just a matter of timing. The second thing is that, as a nurse, I would ask to make sure you're receiving all the comfort measures available to you. Are you physically free from pain? There's no reason you shouldn't be. Are you receiving both spiritual and emotional support everyone needs from family, friends or your religion? Do you have all you need to accept this?

Getting all that out of the way, I'll admit that I doubt that I'm a favorite forum poster with many people here because I can be (cough) a little 'passionate' about politics. But, that's fine with me because I say what I believe to be truth and would never be untruthful to you. I understand that your concerns about the election are meaningful to you. It's important to be reassured that your vote will be counted. There may be an alternative method of getting your vote to the polling booth on election day.

Perhaps you have a neighbor, a friend or a family member that just doesn't agree with you politically. We all have someone like that. Here is an opportunity to be heard on election day. Using your knowledge rather than emotion, using facts rather than theories and using your rational critical thinking, you may make it possible to help one person understand why you're so passionate about the next election. They can go to the polls on election day and use their vote as your proxy vote -- because of you, because of your conviction and passion. Whether you're still here in Nov 2020 or whether you aren't, if a vote is that significant to you then it can be done. You'll have a mission now, to convert just one person to vote as you would. Think of yourself like a Catholic Jesuit whose mission is to convert a Jew to Catholicism, it may be that great of a challenge. LOL!

But during the process of converting someone to your political viewpoint take the time to look outside a window if you can't be outside. Cherish that one day and every day thereafter. Be grateful for that one wonderful sunny beautiful day, one at a time. You are actually one of the more fortunate ones among many who will only know how to appreciate the value of life while you still have it. People so often forget that, and they recklessly toss it away. At the end of each day, remind yourself how wonderful that day was, remember how you heard birds singing and saw puffy white clouds in the sky. Keep those thoughts.
 
Dick Tornado said:
I am dying and able to early vote in May 2020, but it is unlikely that I will live to Nov. should my vote count?

I believe it should. If my vote is registered then it should count. The people you voted for are tallied in November 2020, but it isn’t like you have to be alive when they take office in January 21st, 2021.

A conservative election official I spoke to tried to say to me that he believed that it would be a form of voter fraud. I asked him to show me the statute he was basing his opinion on and low and behold he couldn’t find one.

Give me your best reasons for why shouldn’t it count and why it should. I mean if I vote early but do not succumb to my cancer no harm no foul, but if I perish prior to the November election what law is broken and what if any penalty could be imposed?



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Whatever it is that you are voting for, your vote counts. As near as I can tell, the May date is your vote is for the Preferred Presidential election to choose the party candidate. So, be sure what it is that you think you are voting for. Regardless, a terminal illness cannot invalidate your vote, whatever it is you are voting on while alive. So, go and vote.

And may you prove your doctors wrong and live past November 2020; well past.
 
I get the idea that he's confusing the primary election with the general election.

Jason Warfield said:
Whatever it is that you are voting for, your vote counts. As near as I can tell, the May date is your vote is for the Preferred Presidential election to choose the party candidate. So, be sure what it is that you think you are voting for. Regardless, a terminal illness cannot invalidate your vote, whatever it is you are voting on while alive. So, go and vote.

And may you prove your doctors wrong and live past November 2020; well past.
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SDET said:
I get the idea that he's confusing the primary election with the general election.
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Could be.

I couldn't get a phone to answered at the voters section of the AZ Secretary of State or the Democratic headquarters.

I did get in contact with the Republican Headquarters and spoke to a Voting Official. (It is 1 block from my house.)

I think I rattled him with my inquiry and he may have grabbed a date erroneously which has early voting but is not the general.

I have registered for early voting so I will vote ASAP.
 
Dick, I'm not sure about the vote, but I'm very sad to hear your health problems are so serious. Wishing you the best, I'll be thinking of you.
 
Dick Tornado said:
I am dying and able to early vote in May 2020, but it is unlikely that I will live to Nov. should my vote count?

I believe it should. If my vote is registered then it should count. The people you voted for are tallied in November 2020, but it isn’t like you have to be alive when they take office in January 21st, 2021.

A conservative election official I spoke to tried to say to me that he believed that it would be a form of voter fraud. I asked him to show me the statute he was basing his opinion on and low and behold he couldn’t find one.

Give me your best reasons for why shouldn’t it count and why it should. I mean if I vote early but do not succumb to my cancer no harm no foul, but if I perish prior to the November election what law is broken and what if any penalty could be imposed?



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I'm sorry for your illness. I pray you will find the Lord Jesus all you need to go through this.
 
Dick Tornado said:
Not theoretical.

I have thymic carcinoma (stage 4)

It is a very rare incurable form of cancer and I had surgery in Dec. 2016 were I lost a lung, kidney, 1/2 my diaphragm, 1/2 my heart sack, a phrenic nerve, they rebuilt my esophagus, detached a tentacle from my spine, left nerve bundle and 2.2 Lbs. tumor.

Since then I have two resurgences of the cancer which have not been cured only slowed.

I can't go 200 feet without needing a break, my left arm has become 85-90% dysfunctional, I need oxygen to prevent necrosis, I have one more experimental treatment before I start hospice care.

I have run the gambit of chemo, two types of radiation treatments and currently keep my pain at bay with a 24 hour a day fentanyl patch made by the Mayo Clinic Research. In addition I also take Opioid pain pills as needed on top of the patch because the pain reaches a level that I prefer not to experience.

My oncologist gives me 9 months, but that could be considerably shorter should the reoccurring tumors become even more vigilant.
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My mistake. I wish you well.
 
Dick Tornado said:
I am dying and able to early vote in May 2020, but it is unlikely that I will live to Nov. should my vote count?

I believe it should. If my vote is registered then it should count. The people you voted for are tallied in November 2020, but it isn’t like you have to be alive when they take office in January 21st, 2021.

A conservative election official I spoke to tried to say to me that he believed that it would be a form of voter fraud. I asked him to show me the statute he was basing his opinion on and low and behold he couldn’t find one.

Give me your best reasons for why shouldn’t it count and why it should. I mean if I vote early but do not succumb to my cancer no harm no foul, but if I perish prior to the November election what law is broken and what if any penalty could be imposed?



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Your vote should count!


What you'd be voting for is what you think is best for your country (and your loved ones), should you be here, or not.

It is what you wish for your country.
If it's the last thing you'd do....casting your vote will be the best thing you'd do as a citizen of your nation.
 
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Dick Tornado said:
I am dying and able to early vote in May 2020, but it is unlikely that I will live to Nov. should my vote count?

I believe it should. If my vote is registered then it should count. The people you voted for are tallied in November 2020, but it isn’t like you have to be alive when they take office in January 21st, 2021.

A conservative election official I spoke to tried to say to me that he believed that it would be a form of voter fraud. I asked him to show me the statute he was basing his opinion on and low and behold he couldn’t find one.

Give me your best reasons for why shouldn’t it count and why it should. I mean if I vote early but do not succumb to my cancer no harm no foul, but if I perish prior to the November election what law is broken and what if any penalty could be imposed?



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Of course it should count if you are voting in a legal way. We pass money and belongings on to our loved ones after we die, why shouldn't you be able to pass on a vote for a government you think would best serve a country that you love? I'm in the same boat. I'm probably not going to make 2020.
 
Dick Tornado said:
I am dying and able to early vote in May 2020, but it is unlikely that I will live to Nov. should my vote count?
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At the very least, it should depend on the race. You should not be able to vote for president (unless you write-in) because the candidates will not even be chosen until July. If you want to write-in Trump or Warren or Weld or Yang or Krusty the Clown, fine, but I don't think we should enable blind party voting. If the person you write in doesn't get their party's nod, then you still get your vote counted for that person.

From a standpoint of first principles, I would say it should not count. But I can't figure out the logistics of determining what absentee/early votes are valid and which aren't without compromising the integrity of the secret ballot or unnecessarily prolonging the vote-counting process.
 
Grizzly Adams said:
At the very least, it should depend on the race. You should not be able to vote for president (unless you write-in) because the candidates will not even be chosen until July. If you want to write-in Trump or Warren or Weld or Yang or Krusty the Clown, fine, but I don't think we should enable blind party voting. If the person you write in doesn't get their party's nod, then you still get your vote counted for that person.

From a standpoint of first principles, I would say it should not count. But I can't figure out the logistics of determining what absentee/early votes are valid and which aren't without compromising the integrity of the secret ballot or unnecessarily prolonging the vote-counting process.
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Thanks.

It looks as the election I can first early vote in isn't the general.

That doesn't change the premise as I plan to vote if I make it to the point of getting a ballot.

I have never voted by mail before and had not thought about the concealed nature of the vote.

They must have a way of identifying my vote, otherwise you could just keep mailing in votes.
 
Dick Tornado said:
I am dying and able to early vote in May 2020, but it is unlikely that I will live to Nov. should my vote count?

I believe it should. If my vote is registered then it should count. The people you voted for are tallied in November 2020, but it isn’t like you have to be alive when they take office in January 21st, 2021.

A conservative election official I spoke to tried to say to me that he believed that it would be a form of voter fraud. I asked him to show me the statute he was basing his opinion on and low and behold he couldn’t find one.

Give me your best reasons for why shouldn’t it count and why it should. I mean if I vote early but do not succumb to my cancer no harm no foul, but if I perish prior to the November election what law is broken and what if any penalty could be imposed?
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I don't see why not if your state allows/holds early voting. Check with your state election commission.

I'm sad to hear of your declining health. I sincerely hope you find yourself in remission. Godspeed.
 
Rogue Valley said:
Perhaps you are unaware DiAnna, but this is Luther.
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We have too damned many "Luthers" here; however, I have known Lutherf for years, and respected him for years, even if I didn't share some aspects of his ideology. I really was, and am, shocked and disappointed by that post. But again, don't want to detract from Dick Tornado's original topic.
 
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