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17% hispanic in the US

Casper said:
Which is fine since Repubs are weak in both those areas.
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Dems are weak in education as well

Both suck at healthcare
 
Casper said:
Then maybe they should work together, you know, do their jobs
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In my opinion, nothing happens for the better in education and all things political, until we first reform our citizenry

We have a citizenry problem
 
Luther said:
In my opinion, nothing happens for the better in education and all things political, until we first reform our citizenry

We have a citizenry problem
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And you would go about that how?
 
Casper said:
And you would go about that how?
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Start "Controversy"

"Controversy changes history"


You have a few million to help me get stated?

Kinda like the two "unlikelys" John Hancock started to support Sam Adams(wink)
 
weaver2 said:
You do realize that when the US acquired, stole and bought the south west and California it was populated by Hispanics speaking Spanish most of whom had been there 200 years before white Europeans invaded their territory.
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Correction: We fought the Mexicans during the Mexican-American War, and we won. Not stolen.

Correction: Bull****. They were natives not Spanish.
 
Zeaed said:
When are democrats gonne be satisfied with the integration of hispanic?

How many of them vote for democrats?
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If the Republican party can't find a way to appeal to traditionalist Catholics who primarily work in agriculture, they really need to reexamine their priorities. They should probably start with reconsidering bitching about their mere existence.
 
Zeaed said:
When are democrats gonne be satisfied with the integration of hispanic?

How many of them vote for democrats?
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So long as so many are willing to take from givers. I don't think we'll see a slowing on this kind of immigration any time soon.

As to how many vote, not sure. Last I saw it was around 45% that voted democrat, though that was a gallop poll I think. It's been maybe two years since it's even come to mind.
 
Oborosen said:
So long as so many are willing to take from givers. I don't think we'll see a slowing on this kind of immigration any time soon.

As to how many vote, not sure. Last I saw it was around 45% that voted democrat, though that was a gallop poll I think. It's been maybe two years since it's even come to mind.
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As far as the two major parties is what matters

Which is north of 60% Hispanics that vote democrat
 
Zeaed said:
When are democrats gonne be satisfied with the integration of hispanic?

How many of them vote for democrats?
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i fail to see the problem with citizens from different places coming to a country founded on the premise that people can come from different places.
 
& if you don't like the neighborhood ...

tacomancer said:
i fail to see the problem with citizens from different places coming to a country founded on the premise that people can come from different places.
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Political parties in the US behave like modern (post-US Civil War) corporations: The mantra is Grow or die.

From that POV, the Democratic Party, like all other parties in the US, will never rest on its laurels - it will always seek to grow, always.
 
Re: & if you don't like the neighborhood ...

southwest88 said:
Political parties in the US behave like modern (post-US Civil War) corporations: The mantra is Grow or die.

From that POV, the Democratic Party, like all other parties in the US, will never rest on its laurels - it will always seek to grow, always.
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ok, so?
 
Re: & if you don't like the neighborhood ...

Originally Posted by southwest88
Political parties in the US behave like modern (post-US Civil War) corporations: The mantra is Grow or die.

From that POV, the Democratic Party, like all other parties in the US, will never rest on its laurels - it will always seek to grow, always.

tacomancer said:
ok, so?
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It means that all US political parties operate in the same way, long term: They struggle to recruit rising demographics. FDR put together a coalition of ethnics, labor, unions & others back when, & the Democratic Party has hardly looked back since.

The Republican Party has a tougher sell - they have to motivate a shrinking demographic to come out & vote, & to participate in local elections (to build up the local, county, state & regional & national parties).
 
Re: & if you don't like the neighborhood ...

southwest88 said:
Originally Posted by southwest88
Political parties in the US behave like modern (post-US Civil War) corporations: The mantra is Grow or die.

From that POV, the Democratic Party, like all other parties in the US, will never rest on its laurels - it will always seek to grow, always.



It means that all US political parties operate in the same way, long term: They struggle to recruit rising demographics. FDR put together a coalition of ethnics, labor, unions & others back when, & the Democratic Party has hardly looked back since.

The Republican Party has a tougher sell - they have to motivate a shrinking demographic to come out & vote, & to participate in local elections (to build up the local, county, state & regional & national parties).
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agreed.
 
Zeaed said:
When are democrats gonne be satisfied with the integration of hispanic?
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Integration of Hispanic people into the general population is a non-issue.

According to what I have read, Hispanic people will BE the majority ethnicity in the future.

Demographic experts say that the current majority ethnicity will become a minority by the middle of this century.

In the meantime, Hispanic Americans, African Americans, and Asian Americans will continue to grow their numbers.

Presumably the Democrats will be very "satisfied" with this new America.
 
TheParser said:
Integration of Hispanic people into the general population is a non-issue.

According to what I have read, Hispanic people will BE the majority ethnicity in the future.

Demographic experts say that the current majority ethnicity will become a minority by the middle of this century.

In the meantime, Hispanic Americans, African Americans, and Asian Americans will continue to grow their numbers.

Presumably the Democrats will be very "satisfied" with this new America.
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Making what we do now in vain?
 
TheParser said:
Integration of Hispanic people into the general population is a non-issue.

According to what I have read, Hispanic people will BE the majority ethnicity in the future.

Demographic experts say that the current majority ethnicity will become a minority by the middle of this century.

In the meantime, Hispanic Americans, African Americans, and Asian Americans will continue to grow their numbers.

Presumably the Democrats will be very "satisfied" with this new America.
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I suspect what we will see is that the current white nativist brand of "conservatism" will die (not completely, unfortunately), largely with the boomers and the democrat party + independents will branch off a different kind of conservative. One that is quite religious, but not evangelical (probably more catholic + liberation theology (multiple demographics with slightly different takes on christianity), actually). Currently (even though this is a bit of a stab at the dark and is entirely based on reactionary trends, so subject to change) I suspect something focusing around the importance of home, family (with a special focus on prosperous kids), education, abortion, and hearth. However, will probably be less sympathetic to nativism, gun rights, lessez faire or Randian economics in general.

There seems to be plenty of social conservatives in the wings of the democrat party now, but right now it is to their advantage to stay away from the fairly blatant racism of the party that might otherwise have much of their sympathy. That and the republicans since Gingrich (and Limbaugh) have steadily ostracized people who may be just as socially conservative but approach it differently from their party or with a different type of cultural baggage. However, that relentless march towards some purity or another tends to be a bug in the conservative popular imagination that we have seen so many times throughout history.
 
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TheParser said:
Integration of Hispanic people into the general population is a non-issue. According to what I have read, Hispanic people will BE the majority ethnicity in the future. Demographic experts say that the current majority ethnicity will become a minority by the middle of this century. In the meantime, Hispanic Americans, African Americans, and Asian Americans will continue to grow their numbers. Presumably the Democrats will be very "satisfied" with this new America.
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More VDare crap... Hispanics are integrating into the 'American' culture. Please name the parts of Hispanic culture in the USofA that threatens American culture??? 3 generations in and even the most bigotted 'nativist' would be hard pressed to pick out the Hispanic child in a room of playmates.

A majority doesn't bend the nation too far from the original founding father's English roots... Progress in society has done far more. Name the Founding father who thought women should vote, own property in their own name. Which one thought Negroes should be allowed to marry whites?

Now what European nationality is most represented in the USofA??? German, not English, but do we all eat sauerkraut and sauerbraten??? Some Rotkohl perhaps???

Does German philosophy and writers dominate our society? (ok leave out the blatant white supremacists)

You don't base your 'fear' on culture but on what differences you SEE in the person, skin color, accents, perhaps a few words overheard in the grocery line... :peace
 
notquiteright said:
More VDare crap... Hispanics are integrating into the 'American' culture. Please name the parts of Hispanic culture in the USofA that threatens American culture??? 3 generations in and even the most bigotted 'nativist' would be hard pressed to pick out the Hispanic child in a room of playmates.

A majority doesn't bend the nation too far from the original founding father's English roots... Progress in society has done far more. Name the Founding father who thought women should vote, own property in their own name. Which one thought Negroes should be allowed to marry whites?

Now what European nationality is most represented in the USofA??? German, not English, but do we all eat sauerkraut and sauerbraten??? Some Rotkohl perhaps???

Does German philosophy and writers dominate our society? (ok leave out the blatant white supremacists)

You don't base your 'fear' on culture but on what differences you SEE in the person, skin color, accents, perhaps a few words overheard in the grocery line... :peace
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Thank you for your eloquent defense of the politically correct attitude on this controversial topic.

As you know, there are people who respectfully disagree with you.

In any case, the future of this country does, indeed, belong to the people who agree with your viewpoint.



Have a nice weekend!
 
Bodhisattva said:
And Eric Estrada was one of the most popular action heroes that we have ever had.
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And America, at the height of Cold War Red Fever paranoia, fell in love with a Cuban bandleader with a thick accent named Desi Arnaz.
 
TheParser said:
Thank you for your eloquent defense of the politically correct attitude on this controversial topic. As you know, there are people who respectfully disagree with you. In any case, the future of this country does, indeed, belong to the people who agree with your viewpoint. Have a nice weekend!
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Thank you for thinking my thinking is somehow 'politically correct'... it's actually HISTORICALLY correct as each new wave of immigrants not from England has caused such dire predictions concerning our 'culture'....

From those monkey, drunkard, papalist Irish, the sheep-like Germans, the swarthy, papalist, lazy Italians, the low intelligence slavs, oh let's not forget the Asians who weren't allowed to be citizens until WWII, but died by the hundreds building our first transcontinental rail lines. (do note an almost complete black-out of that fact in the photos of that era)

No Sir since the mid 1800's bigots and 'nativists' have predicted the downfall of the American Way and yet somehow the Republic marches on and many of those deemed such a threat to our way of life gave theirs in the dozen or so wars since 1850.

I know people disagree, but they don't seem to look too far into our past, past the jingoism of a whitewashed history. Have a nice weekend... :peace
 
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