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How is masshooting Donald Trump's fault?

haymarket said:
I have posted right here in this thread. If you want to dispute something - go right ahead.
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And he runs away yet again.

Thank you for proving my suspicion correct haymarket.

I'm done with you now.
 
Oborosen said:
And he runs away yet again.

Thank you for proving my suspicion correct haymarket.

I'm done with you now.
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Actually you were done the first time you could not produce what you claimed.
 
Oborosen said:
So just because you've said something that a pedophile might say, that means that you and the pedophile are coherently aligned...

Good, nice to keep playing by your rules.
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Fun to watch your desperation. You wouldn't know coherency if it were spitting in your face.

Which, ironically enough, it's doing.
 
Integrityrespec said:
BS. Trump and half of America according to you and the liberal crowd. You cannot blame anyone but the damn shooters for the actions they take. Just like you don't seem to blame democrat politicians for the massive number of shootings that are taking place in Chicago and Baltimore.
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Exactly. ......in no way are these shootings President Trump's fault anymore than Sandy Hook was president Obama' s fault. .......these shootings are the fault of the sick people who perpetrate them.
 
haymarket said:
Trump is beating the drum of hate loudly and often. His racism, his xenophobia, his poor treatment of women and simply his outright coarseness, vulgarity and open hostility against people he sees as his political enemy is in almost daily display. He has given a sort of license to vermin to crawl from out under the rocks and do their worst.

Trump bears a large responsibility for the increasingly hateful environment in the US today.
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How about Dayton?
 
@ thread OP...Actually any honest person, regardless of political affiliation can explain it. Trump is 'partially' responsible for the El Paso massacre, in part, because he has admitted we have a mental illness issue/gun access issue in this country, as well as a Hispanic illegal immigration issues.....and rather than try to defuse the situation, or better yet, just keep his stupid yap shut, he chooses to fan the flames which sets of the mentally ill racists and bigots that commit these atrocities.
 
vegas giants said:
You offer no solutions and attack anyone that does. It's clear you are fine with things staying exactly as they are
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I suggest increasing enforcement of the laws, not creating new, useless ones. That only serve to hinder those who are still following the law.

In a large number of these deaths, there is no gun law on the books, or proposed that could actually have done anything. Without being properly enforced.

Also, claiming that someone is fine with innocents being murdered, simply because they're pointing out how some of the proposed laws are actually useless. Is probably the most dishonest argument you could make.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Fun to watch your desperation. You wouldn't know coherency if it were spitting in your face.

Which, ironically enough, it's doing.
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Strange, you don't like it when your own rules are used against you.

Go figure.
 
haymarket said:
Do you have a cause that the authorities have revealed for Dayton?
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Apparently we have a leftist who didn't like Trump. But the news is rather silent on this incident, similar to their silence on Chicago; probably for the same reason.
 
American said:
Apparently we have a leftist who didn't like Trump. But the news is rather silent on this incident, similar to their silence on Chicago; probably for the same reason.
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"Apparently" is hardly verifiable evidence which explains why the shooter did what they did.

The silence is "apparently" because at this point no motive has been offered.
 
Zeaed said:
Any democrat can explain that?

When asians muslims blacks and hispanics do mass shooting then it's the democrats fault?
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Not a democrat, but its not Trump’s fault.
 
Trump is at fault, not as a person, but as president. He has done nothing to curb violence, he is beholden to the NRA and will not use whatever political clout he has with the GOP to solve the problem.

The Democrats have, and are, trying to find solutions and most are not beholden to the NRA or gun lobby. If a minority does a mass shooting, it is not on the Democrats because they are a minority (and remember, there are GOP who are minorities as well) because the Democrats are trying to solve the problem. Granted, the solutions aren't always good ones, but the effort is being made. Trump cannot say that.
 
Jason Warfield said:
Trump is at fault, not as a person, but as president. He has done nothing to curb violence, he is beholden to the NRA and will not use whatever political clout he has with the GOP to solve the problem.

The Democrats have, and are, trying to find solutions and most are not beholden to the NRA or gun lobby. If a minority does a mass shooting, it is not on the Democrats because they are a minority (and remember, there are GOP who are minorities as well) because the Democrats are trying to solve the problem. Granted, the solutions aren't always good ones, but the effort is being made. Trump cannot say that.
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The democrats mainly pander to low wattage voters who want simple solutions to complex issues and they pretend their anti gun schemes will help. In reality, their main goal is harassing lawful gun ownership. Efforts based on dishonesty and spite are far worse than "doing nothing"
 
Jason Warfield said:
The Democrats have, and are, trying to find solutions and most are not beholden to the NRA or gun lobby. If a minority does a mass shooting, it is not on the Democrats because they are a minority (and remember, there are GOP who are minorities as well) because the Democrats are trying to solve the problem. Granted, the solutions aren't always good ones, but the effort is being made. Trump cannot say that.
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One thing I've noticed is that all leftists share this same moral defect where intentions matter more than results.

Consider two issues at opposite ends of the spectrum of political violence: Universal background checks regarding guns at one end, and genocide at the other.

Every leftist knows that a UBC system will do nothing regarding firearm deaths. It will have no effect on mass shootings, and it will have no effect on inner city gang violence. But the intention of UBC is good, and that's why they want it.

It's no different when it comes to genocide. Prominent leftist Noam Chomsky knew the Khmer Rouge were torturing and murdering people by the thousands, but he believe their intentions were good, so he was fine with it. Famous leftist journalist Walter Duranty knew Stalin was starving people to death, but he believed Stalin's intentions were good, and if genocide was deemed necessary, then so be it.

It's like virtual signaling on steroids. If the intentions are good, then literally any action is justified.
 
Zeaed said:
Any democrat can explain that?

When asians muslims blacks and hispanics do mass shooting then it's the democrats fault?
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Shhhh, Democrats don't like Asians, unless they're Chinese communists.
 
aociswundumho said:
One thing I've noticed is that all leftists share this same moral defect where intentions matter more than results.

Consider two issues at opposite ends of the spectrum of political violence: Universal background checks regarding guns at one end, and genocide at the other.

Every leftist knows that a UBC system will do nothing regarding firearm deaths. It will have no effect on mass shootings, and it will have no effect on inner city gang violence. But the intention of UBC is good, and that's why they want it.

It's no different when it comes to genocide. Prominent leftist Noam Chomsky knew the Khmer Rouge were torturing and murdering people by the thousands, but he believe their intentions were good, so he was fine with it. Famous leftist journalist Walter Duranty knew Stalin was starving people to death, but he believed Stalin's intentions were good, and if genocide was deemed necessary, then so be it.

It's like virtual signaling on steroids. If the intentions are good, then literally any action is justified.
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Every conservative knows UBC will reduce gun deaths and save lives. But they dont want that. They are fine with having the shootings continue. Its politics. It's good for their base
 
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