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How is masshooting Donald Trump's fault?

WCH said:
We have 1000s of gun laws that don't seem to be getting enforced. Passing more wouldn't do squat.

Enforcement... not more legislation.
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Look at the Ohio shooter. Yet another kid who was pushed through the school system as to not go into the so-called "school to prison pipeline". Just like Parkland, we have a young male who should have been put into the mental health or criminal system, but God forbid under Obama, we don't graduate kids. No graduation, no Federal funds. It's b.s.
Schools are not the authorities who should be dealing with criminal and mental health problems.
 
Lovebug said:
Let me assume for a minute this isn't race baiting.
Nope, can't do it.
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How so? Dozens die in our inner cities from gun violence over the course of just a weekend! Are Democrats addressing it? Of course not. Do they make noise when in place like where I live, children die from gun violence just because they're outdoors! Where I live, an 11-year old BOY was just killed because he was shot while sitting in a car! Crossfire!
The blatant disregard for human life is profound, yet Democrats only perk up when it's a white male who goes on a shooting rampage.
Same amount dead in Chicago and D.C. over the weekend, but no one seems to care.
I wonder why?
Doesn't fit the "whites are terrorists" narrative the Left has adopted as its new mantra.
 
haymarket said:
Trump is beating the drum of hate loudly and often. His racism, his xenophobia, his poor treatment of women and simply his outright coarseness, vulgarity and open hostility against people he sees as his political enemy is in almost daily display. He has given a sort of license to vermin to crawl from out under the rocks and do their worst.

Trump bears a large responsibility for the increasingly hateful environment in the US today.
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Don’t you get tried of spewing this BS.
If you are going to blame Trump for someone’s actions than you need to blame Maxine Waters and all the others on the left who want to divide this country and be aggressive against Trump supporter.
From day one of this presidency Antifa was on the streets. From day one the left was demonstrating his election.

Don’t forget to blame Obama for the riots in Ferguson and the ambush and killing of police officers since.

It’s people like you that divide this country.
Accept his presidency and vote him out of power. That’s how it works.
 
WCH said:
Probably not. For me it's not being able to have the same weapons that criminals have in order to protect my family and self.

Don't even get me started on a tyrannical government.
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For me it is when the citizen is no longer able to have a gun. That is the right being infringed.
 
Outlook said:
Don’t you get tried of spewing this BS.
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Shing the cleansing light of truth into the darkness is indeed hard work. But it must be done. America and its people are in the balance and Trump is greasing the skids for a roller coaster that is nearly out of control. And you are cheering him on asking him to apply more grease.
 
Acadia said:
How so? Dozens die in our inner cities from gun violence over the course of just a weekend! Are Democrats addressing it? Of course not. Do they make noise when in place like where I live, children die from gun violence just because they're outdoors! Where I live, an 11-year old BOY was just killed because he was shot while sitting in a car! Crossfire!
The blatant disregard for human life is profound, yet Democrats only perk up when it's a white male who goes on a shooting rampage.
Same amount dead in Chicago and D.C. over the weekend, but no one seems to care.
I wonder why?
Doesn't fit the "whites are terrorists" narrative the Left has adopted as its new mantra.
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Your opinion is far removed from the op. It is important to discuss relevant topics, race baiting isn't the way to start a conversation
:)
 
haymarket said:
Shing the cleansing light of truth into the darkness is indeed hard work. But it must be done. America and its people are in the balance and Trump is greasing the skids for a roller coaster that is nearly out of control. And you are cheering him on asking him to apply more grease.
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I see you ignored my other comments. Nothing to say?
 
WCH said:
I can tell you with certainty that anyone who supports the 2nd amendment in this country would not encourage mass shootings as a way to drive that support home.
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What side benefits from ramping up the coverage and number of mass shootings?
 
Elizabeth Warren is CLEARLY responsible for Dayton but Donald Trump is in no way responsible for El Paso.
 
Zeaed said:
Any democrat can explain that?

When asians muslims blacks and hispanics do mass shooting then it's the democrats fault?
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Democrats would never blame their pets for anything.
 
The CORE thought of the shooter in his writing is that corporations are environmentally destroying earth. Thus, blame can absolutely be laid on the Democratic Party screaming incessantly that everyone is going to die within 10 years due to evil corporations as his primary motive.
 
chuckiechan said:
As an a senior American I can tell you that as a “race” far too many Americans are a couple degrees away from bat **** crazy. But that is what gets things done, both good and bad.

Point two, as the country grows, so does the pool of crazy people. No one seems to mention that most shooters are “millineals” and raised in a very permissive atmosphere coupled with hyper violent visual media and exposure to legal and illegal drugs during their formative years.

Blame their parents for raising killers, the school for not reporting it, and the killer for being a coward and not shooting himself first.
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The non-stop negativism and doom-and-gloom of the SJW, PC, race-baiters and environmental wackos taught in schools is making a lot of kids crazy. With traditional American Democratic liberalism being replaced with a ranting doom-and-gloom incessant hate mongering by the new International Democratic Fascist Party is going to increasingly lead to violence by millennials.
 
The mass shooting is not Trump's fault. But when the killer's manifesto echoes Trump's language, it should be a message to Donald to tone down his "immigrants are like poisonous snakes" rhetoric and perhaps apologize for past statements about invasions or infestations.

If next week someone shoots up a newsroom and his manifesto says it's because the media are "the enemy of the people," it still won't be Trump's fault, but he will still bear some responsibility.

Take that back. Trump doesn't bear responsibility for anything negative.
 
haymarket said:
Trump is beating the drum of hate loudly and often. His racism, his xenophobia, his poor treatment of women and simply his outright coarseness, vulgarity and open hostility against people he sees as his political enemy is in almost daily display. He has given a sort of license to vermin to crawl from out under the rocks and do their worst.

Trump bears a large responsibility for the increasingly hateful environment in the US today.
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And anybody not a complete moron and dishonest scumbag should already know this undeniable fact
 
TheParser said:
I agree that both President Trump and certain Dem politicians and the media should dial back their rhetoric.

President Trump's words are often too crude and undiplomatic. They stir up individuals with brain health issues.

Certain Dem politicians' constant whining about "racism" are outraging those mentally insecure individuals.

The media will report hearsay and rumors and downright lies in order to stay in business.

Shame on them all.
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I'm calling BS on this. THe only rhetoric is coming from the right. I'm sick of this "both sides" Bull****. The left has facts, real things we are arguing, the right only has rhetoric. Calling out Trumps hate speech for what it is is not rhethoric. Calling out racists and white nationalist is not rhetoric.

Claiming illegals are the cause of all problems in the US is rhetoric,as it is not supported by facts.

**** this "both sides" bull****
 
haymarket said:
Trump is beating the drum of hate loudly and often. His racism, his xenophobia, his poor treatment of women and simply his outright coarseness, vulgarity and open hostility against people he sees as his political enemy is in almost daily display. He has given a sort of license to vermin to crawl from out under the rocks and do their worst.

Trump bears a large responsibility for the increasingly hateful environment in the US today.
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BS. Trump and half of America according to you and the liberal crowd. You cannot blame anyone but the damn shooters for the actions they take. Just like you don't seem to blame democrat politicians for the massive number of shootings that are taking place in Chicago and Baltimore.
 
Nickyjo said:
The mass shooting is not Trump's fault. But when the killer's manifesto echoes Trump's language, it should be a message to Donald to tone down his "immigrants are like poisonous snakes" rhetoric and perhaps apologize for past statements about invasions or infestations.

If next week someone shoots up a newsroom and his manifesto says it's because the media are "the enemy of the people," it still won't be Trump's fault, but he will still bear some responsibility.

Take that back. Trump doesn't bear responsibility for anything negative.
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This is my beef: I have not been able to find the manifesto to read it myself. I am not going to rely on a media that lied though their teeth about Russia, to tell me the truth about what some nutcase's "manifesto" reads. We are getting our impressions from the mouths of a media that lies just because it can.
 
What happened to the proud deplorables who's only job was to enable king troll to trigger the libs by destroying the established norms ?

Had enough winning already ?
 
Integrityrespec said:
BS. Trump and half of America according to you and the liberal crowd. You cannot blame anyone but the damn shooters for the actions they take. Just like you don't seem to blame democrat politicians for the massive number of shootings that are taking place in Chicago and Baltimore.
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I did not place all the blame on Trump. He is partly responsible for creating the environment off hate and bigotry and xenophobia which the shooter used for motivation for his crimes.
 
WCH said:
So whose responsibility was it before Trump?
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He does not have a clue because it's all Trump's fault. Just ask any resist person.
The president is the cause of all evil in the world today and will be as long as he is
our president.
 
Sampson Simpson said:
I'm calling BS on this. THe only rhetoric is coming from the right. I'm sick of this "both sides" Bull****. The left has facts, real things we are arguing, the right only has rhetoric. Calling out Trumps hate speech for what it is is not rhethoric. Calling out racists and white nationalist is not rhetoric.

Claiming illegals are the cause of all problems in the US is rhetoric,as it is not supported by facts.

**** this "both sides" bull****
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So the left trying to paint whites as "white supremacist, white nationalist, deplorables, racist, fascist", and so on are not a problem.
 
What's coming out now is, to the extent the ideology of either of these scum can be rationalized, both these guys were closer to LW than RW. One even averred that he was a socialist, they voiced hate for Trump, corporations, the damage we're doing to the environment and our lack of action to fix it.



On a separate note, I read an observation this morning that has a note of plausibility in it. The writer was wondering if the constant repletion in the Democratic-Media-Complex of terms like "white nationalism", or "neo-Nazi" might be serving as publicity/recruiting aid to these guys. Most of these guys are anti-social loners who see themselves as misunderstood. So, does stuff like mentioning the websites where these guys have posted encourage other losers to log on?
 
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