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Hillary will run again in 2020

cabse5 said:
SIAP. She, like every other dem, thinks the election of Trump was a fluke. Dems, it seems, don't take into account the will of the people.
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The will of the people was for Hillary. Trump won not because he got the most votes, but because he won the EC, which of course is the important part
 
SDET said:
Just abolish the Electoral College and what the coastals want, the coastals get. The rest of the country will become inconsequential.
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It is not like Texas has almost 30 million people. Why should larger states lose their say? In the electoral college the only states that matter are swing states, the coasts still control who wins.
 
Carjosse said:
It is not like Texas has almost 30 million people. Why should larger states lose their say? In the electoral college the only states that matter are swing states, the coasts still control who wins.
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The states on the coasts: California, Oregon, Washington, New York, New Jersey, are those the states that elected Donald Trump?
 
haymarket said:
Hoping that Clinton runs again in 2020 and wins the Democratic nomination is a right wing wet dream. It is not going to happen.
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Yep.

I thing enough of the left is smart enough to to hand over the election again.
 
TheParser said:
The second time was the charm for Richard Nixon.

So maybe Ms. Hillary will actually win this time.

Yes, she is not a very nice person.

But many people dislike President Trump even more.

Besides, in 2020 I have no doubt that more ineligible voters will be casting votes.


It seems that any Democrat will win. So maybe many Democrats will take pity on the elderly lady and let her have her last hurrah.
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Who was going to win against the Charismatic JFK?
 
Mizzy22 said:
My guess a left wing Celebrity like Oprah or George Clooney will run.
I hope Michelle Obama!
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Oprah would have a solid chance. She might even get my vote!
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
The will of the people was for Hillary. Trump won not because he got the most votes, but because he won the EC, which of course is the important part
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I disagree with "the will of the people." There were no pressing issues in California to bring conservatives to the polls, and Trump didn't even campaign there because it was a sure "D" win.

Want to win the game, make sure you follow the rules.

Outside of California, Trump won by something like 2,000,000 votes in the other 49 states.
 
Lord of Planar said:
I disagree with "the will of the people." There were no pressing issues in California to bring conservatives to the polls, and Trump didn't even campaign there because it was a sure "D" win.

Want to win the game, make sure you follow the rules.

Outside of California, Trump won by something like 2,000,000 votes in the other 49 states.
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Californians do not count as people?

Trump won, no doubt about it, but claiming it was the silent majority, or the will of the people is incorrect. As both indicates a majority, which Trump did not receive
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
Californians do not count as people?

Trump won, no doubt about it, but claiming it was the silent majority, or the will of the people is incorrect. As both indicates a majority, which Trump did not receive
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I'm only saying many right leaning people had no motivation to vote. If the election was for the popular vote, you can be certain the turnout of Trump voters in California would have been greater. There is no way to know how much more though.
 
Lord of Planar said:
I'm only saying many right leaning people had no motivation to vote. If the election was for the popular vote, you can be certain the turnout of Trump voters in California would have been greater. There is no way to know how much more though.
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And I am sure in heavy red states democratic votes were not very high because they had no motivation to vote. We can only accurately go by the results, Trump won the EC, but received fewer total votes than Clinton
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
And I am sure in heavy red states democratic votes were not very high because they had no motivation to vote. We can only accurately go by the results, Trump won the EC, but received fewer total votes than Clinton
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Which once again, doesn't mean a damn thing. Anyone who is still bent on the popular vote is just grasping at straws. You need to get a grip on reality.
 
Apparently, you guys don't think campaigning matters. Why campaign at all then?
 
pilot16 said:
Democrats need to think electorally for 2020. Who can win in the heartland? Maybe pick up some southern states? I keep seeing coastals claiming they want to run and I dont know if they can. Sure they will win the popular vote by 10 million but they wont get the needed states. Even though dems prevailed in midterms way too many races were too close for comfort. They need someone likeable that can blow the opposition out of the water.
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I agree. Nominate someone likable, interesting, and electable.
 
Lord of Planar said:
Which once again, doesn't mean a damn thing. Anyone who is still bent on the popular vote is just grasping at straws. You need to get a grip on reality.
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I am not the one who claimed Trump's win was the will of the people, or due to the silent majority. I am not bent on the popular vote. Just accuracy
 
I think the Trumpeteers are afraid the Democrats will run Elizabeth Warren. That's why they're making a mountain out of the molehill of her having marked "Native American" on a college application at one time.
 
Lord of Planar said:
LOL....

Put a fork in her. She's done. She will never get elected, unless her opponent in 2020 is really lame, or if they finally figured out how to stuff the ballot boxes better.
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You mean someone lame like Trump? I would never vote for a Democrat. However, Trump is embarrassing the GOP.
 
Dittohead not! said:
I think the Trumpeteers are afraid the Democrats will run Elizabeth Warren. That's why they're making a mountain out of the molehill of her having marked "Native American" on a college application at one time.
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Any American should be concerned about any member of the "free stuff brigade" gaining power.
 
Her nomination is a right wing wet dream.
 
Yep, Trump is lame. Hillary was worse, and unless the Dems come up with a MODERATE with the good of the American people at heart, it will be Trump again, unfortunately. Liberalism is not the way anyone needs to go, unless they want other peoples' money. I haven't heard one name from the Libs/Progressives that can get my vote, nor the vote of the rest of Americans in Fly-over country.
SDET said:
You mean someone lame like Trump? I would never vote for a Democrat. However, Trump is embarrassing the GOP.
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It is almost 2019 and there is nobody, nobody on the horizon to come riding in on a white stallion.
2020 will be a remake of 2016. It will be the same old characters as before. It will be like the Westminster Dog Show where you will see the handlers jogging out with the Cruz, the Rubio, the Biden, and lo and behold out waddles the Trump.

Our country is sliding into the dump and our number one concern is a bunch of South Americans wanting asylum. When was the last time anyone mention the federal deficit?

The U.S. Federal deficit was $587 billion in Obama’s last year and it grew to $666 billion in Trump’s first year of his presidency. I’ve been reviewing a report from the U.S. Treasury Department, which shows that the U.S. Federal Deficit will probably increase this year (fiscal 2018), could come close to if not exceed $1 trillion in fiscal 2019 and will likely exceed $1 trillion in fiscal 2020 and beyond. And this is before the additional deficits created by the tax reform bill and the just passed two year budget.
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Give me a true fiscal conservative who doesn't have lobbyists swimming in his underwear like guinea pigs and I will vote for either him or her. Didn't vote for Trump of Clinton in 2016 and won't for either one of them in 2020.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckj...t-deficit-1-trillion-and-beyond/#33d68cdf544f
 
SDET said:
You mean someone lame like Trump? I would never vote for a Democrat. However, Trump is embarrassing the GOP.
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He's unlikable, but not lame.
 
Crosscheck said:
It is almost 2019 and there is nobody, nobody on the horizon to come riding in on a white stallion.
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LOL...

Then I saw when the Lamb broke one of the seven seals, and I heard one of the four living creatures saying as with a voice of thunder, “Come.” I looked, and behold, a white horse, and he who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer.
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