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Make California Great Again....

MrWonka said:
By literally every single solitary objective measure that you can use to judge the quality of a state you are wrong, and California is actually better.
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:lamo :lamo
 
MrWonka said:
Yes, actually it is. Some people actually recognize the value in using tax dollars to invest in a state and avoid budget deficits.


Yes, actually while some infrastructure projects can be expensive there is little doubt that a cheap rail system would be widely beneficial to California. Kudos to them for being willing to lead on this type of thing despite the inevitable problems associated with trying something new and difficult.


These problems existed under Arnold as well. The problem with a good climate and a good economy is you do tend to attract some homeless beggars, but that is not inherently bad.


Do you just not know what Silicon Valley is? California now has a bigger economy than all but 5 individual nations.
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#1: No, we are being taxed to death.

#2: The railroad system is only from LA to Sacramento. Its also failed.

#3: But its gotten worse under Jerry Brown

#4: This argument is just plain stupid. Who the **** cares about 5th largest economy in the world. Where this state has only 48th and 49th in reading and math. Homelessness has increased by 75%. House prices are ridiculous. And also yes most businesses are moving to Texas b/c its cheaper and California's constant regulation is unfriendly to businesses now.

I love how you talk about my state, even though you don't live in it.
 
Master PO said:
:lamo who are you arguing with? San Francisco Mayor London Breed

i posted what she said and you go off about Libertarians
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Five Things That Will Happen If California Secedes

"Silicon Valley will form its own independent, Luxembourg-like nation, where it can ignore international law and avoid paying taxes. Bay Area millionaires and billionaires may pretend to still be 1960s liberals, but in practice they follow the legacy of Ayn Rand, not Haight-Ashbury."
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---Jared Whitley

Therefore, despite its reputation as a liberal stronghold San Francisco AND the entire BAY AREA has actually been run by a small cadre of fiercely right wing libertarian technocrats for many years.

It is good that you attached my quote as your sig, it shows that you might be capable of learning something.
 
~ I think it's too late for California. Likely too late for America as well. Our grandchildren will see a much different country. :violin: :hm
 
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I wonder how many states in the future will band together and petition the government to remove California from the Union?
 
Middleground said:
It's the 5th largest economy in the world. Jeepers you have weird standards.
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But how about how screwed up fiscally they are in this fifth largest economy in the world(LOL)
 
I have lived in California all my 82 years.

1. It is a state that is, indeed, very liberal -- now.

2. The Governor wants to stop capital punishment -- which, for all intents and purposes, has long been abolished in actual practice.

3. Housing prices and apartment rents in the cities are out of sight.

4. The fastest growing ethnicity are Hispanic people, who are now starting to take power at the local and state level.

5. Because of sincere but misguided liberals, the homeless problem is out of sight here in Los Angeles. The police have little power to ask the homeless to leave the streets. Walking on the sidewalks requires maneuvering oneself through rows of tents set up on the sidewalks. Because of very liberal laws, it is impossible to move the homeless to shelters.


6. The authorities here in the City of the Angels (what a misnomer) think that we residents are stupid: The authorities claim that the crime situation is better than it was in the 1950s. They massage the statistics to come up with this absurd claim. I was a teenager in 1950s L.A. No one back then even thought of crime.














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If one has lots of money, California is still a wonderful place to live. The weather in SoCal (Southern California) is usually fantastic: nice warm days.


If one is only an ordinary person with limited financial resources, one should try to select another state.
 
TheParser said:
I have lived in California all my 82 years.

1. It is a state that is, indeed, very liberal -- now.

2. The Governor wants to stop capital punishment -- which, for all intents and purposes, has long been abolished in actual practice.

3. Housing prices and apartment rents in the cities are out of sight.

4. The fastest growing ethnicity are Hispanic people, who are now starting to take power at the local and state level.

5. Because of sincere but misguided liberals, the homeless problem is out of sight here in Los Angeles. The police have little power to ask the homeless to leave the streets. Walking on the sidewalks requires maneuvering oneself through rows of tents set up on the sidewalks. Because of very liberal laws, it is impossible to move the homeless to shelters.


6. The authorities here in the City of the Angels (what a misnomer) think that we residents are stupid: The authorities claim that the crime situation is better than it was in the 1950s. They massage the statistics to come up with this absurd claim. I was a teenager in 1950s L.A. No one back then even thought of crime.














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If one has lots of money, California is still a wonderful place to live. The weather in SoCal (Southern California) is usually fantastic: nice warm days.


If one is only an ordinary person with limited financial resources, one should try to select another state.
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If one has lots of money, California is still a wonderful place to live. The weather in SoCal (Southern California) is usually fantastic: nice warm days
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yeah, but does one give up their principles for this?

Does one just keep ignoring reality?

You're still being ruled by your inferiors
 
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Luther said:
yeah, but does one give up their principles for this?

Does one just keep ignoring reality?

You're still being ruled by your inferiors
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Good morning from chilly Los Angeles.

Let's tell it as it is: We ordinary people have no choice but to "give up our principles" and to "ignore reality."

That's how it's been throughout history.

In other words, if one does not like what is happening in the Golden State, then one should do what an activist bluntly replied: LEAVE. (Some are, indeed, leaving, I hear.)

By the way, I think that some so-called liberals had a panic attack when they read your reference to one's "inferiors." Oh, my!


Have a nice day!
 
TheParser said:
Good morning from chilly Los Angeles.

Let's tell it as it is: We ordinary people have no choice but to "give up our principles" and to "ignore reality."

That's how it's been throughout history.

In other words, if one does not like what is happening in the Golden State, then one should do what an activist bluntly replied: LEAVE. (Some are, indeed, leaving, I hear.)

By the way, I think that some so-called liberals had a panic attack when they read your reference to one's "inferiors." Oh, my!


Have a nice day!
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That's how it's been throughout history.
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Really? so our Founding Fathers thought as you do?(LOL)

if one does not like what is happening in the Golden State, then one should do what an activist bluntly replied: LEAVE. (Some are, indeed, leaving, I hear.)
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Pist... don't worry, they are.....
 
SoCal is really a place I'm torn about. Been there plenty for visits from Santa Barbara to IB, love the whole damn thing...

It's kinda funny to come across this thread, the wife actually threw her hat in the ring for a position in La Jolla last week and she's asked me a number of times -- could you stand the politics?

That's a real wicked pisser of a question. I don't know if I'm already living in La La Land thinking like this, but you know, give me those beaches, that weather, and I really think I could. I mean, I already know housing is ridiculously high, taxes I'm used to here in Chicago, a bunch of jerk off gun control nuts, got those here too... So why not?
 
TheParser said:
6. The authorities here in the City of the Angels (what a misnomer) think that we residents are stupid: The authorities claim that the crime situation is better than it was in the 1950s. They massage the statistics to come up with this absurd claim. I was a teenager in 1950s L.A. No one back then even thought of crime.
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I have a different take on that.

Calling the police, used to work. I know myself I had incidents with one 40 year old first grade type bully that cost me a few thousand dollars in damages. The police were absolutely useless, as they had more pressing issue to pursue. All it did was make matters worse, because it emboldened him. I have found out, talking with other people, they have given up in calling for help. It's just a waste of time. The crime statistics are based on such reports. When people give up on reporting actual crime, the statistics show a perception of lessening.

I suspect things are worse in LA than here in Portlandia for such statistics.
 
Lord of Planar said:
I have a different take on that.

Calling the police, used to work. I know myself I had incidents with one 40 year old first grade type bully that cost me a few thousand dollars in damages. The police were absolutely useless, as they had more pressing issue to pursue. All it did was make matters worse, because it emboldened him. I have found out, talking with other people, they have given up in calling for help. It's just a waste of time. The crime statistics are based on such reports. When people give up on reporting actual crime, the statistics show a perception of lessening.

I suspect things are worse in LA than here in Portlandia for such statistics.
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Yes, the police do not respond to all calls.

Sometimes they have more important calls (murder, for example).

Sometimes they are restrained by the laws.

I heard someone on the radio who said that cops told him that there is no use arresting people for serious drug crimes, for they will be back on the street in a few hours.


Some people in one famous neighborhood called Venice are incensed that the cops will not come out if a homeless person (there are many in Venice) assaults a resident. The cops explain that they cannot do anything unless they personally witness it.

Yes, many crime victims just "suck it up" rather than get involved with a lot of police paperwork, especially since the cops are not going to do anything.

That's why many people have guns, and why many people spend their hard-earned money on private security services.


It's a crying shame, but that's America in 2019, and it IS going to get even worse in the coming years.


Best wishes


P.S. I hope that bully has gotten his comeuppance. Quite often, bullies eventually pick on the wrong person, and POW!!!
 
enderpotato00 said:
California used to be a great state, now its a liberal ****hole. Your thoughts?
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Currently, the Democratic Party designed State of California exists for increasing numbers of desperately poor people to serve Democratic rich people. California's great, the way life in the Dark Ages Life was great for those who owned torture chambers.
 
Californians are particularly environmentally aware as pro active environmentalists. For example, to conserve water, many use sidewalks instead of toilets and urinals out of their environmental concerns.
 
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