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Make California Great Again....

Checkerboard Strangler said:
Which is it, welfare or unemployment?
They're two separate things.

California's unemployment rate is 4.2% as of June.
Five percent is generally accepted as "full employment" because at least five percent of ANY of the working population anywhere is considered chronically unemployed or unemployable.

So now you're complaining about 4.2 percent unenjoyment?
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In comparison with the rest of the country, its not good. We're ranked 48th in math and 49th in Reading.
 
What will banning plastic straws accomplish? They only make up 1% of all ocean trash. We as a country, only contribute to 1% of the oceans plastic problem. Thus banning plastic straws is a stupid feel good tactic.
 
Fledermaus said:
I remember when California was a top ranked state in education.
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That's too much like hard work. Instead, the teacher's union (amongst others) seized political power at some point, and they've been pillaging the state ever since.

And because things are so relatively good in CA, depending on how you measure, the public at large is still willing to vote to throw more and more money down the hole. Eventually, the music will stop, but it's far past the point I would have believed possible.
 
WillyPete said:
That's too much like hard work. Instead, the teacher's union (amongst others) seized political power at some point, and they've been pillaging the state ever since.

And because things are so relatively good in CA, depending on how you measure, the public at large is still willing to vote to throw more and more money down the hole. Eventually, the music will stop, but it's far past the point I would have believed possible.
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There's this pesky little thing called "Proposition 13" that you seem to have overlooked.
 
enderpotato00 said:
What will banning plastic straws accomplish? They only make up 1% of all ocean trash. We as a country, only contribute to 1% of the oceans plastic problem. Thus banning plastic straws is a stupid feel good tactic.
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Like everywhere in our nation, legislators respond to the demands of monied interests.

California seems to attract more that it's share of hippy billionaires, and they want what they want, same as any wealth donor.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
There's this pesky little thing called "Proposition 13" that you seem to have overlooked.
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Prop 13 is a cap on property taxes.

The educational system in California is flush with cash.

Help me understand your point.

Edit: Is it just that CA has relatively low property tax? Congratulations, we're getting murdered in every other category.
 
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Tanngrisnir said:
Yes, and those taxes went to fund our educational system.

This could put it more more succinctly and plainly that I can (and I don't feel like typing out an essay)

https://ed100.org/lessons/prop13
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Ok, fair enough, I can see how that would explain problems THEN, but CA is now spending far more than they ever did before prop 13 (thanks to prop 98) and yet results are far worse.

Also, I ran across this link that claims much higher spending per student than your link, though I don't know which is more accurate. It also compares all states, with CA at the top of spending overall, yet somehow we have a ~50% dropout rate in LAUSD.

I know there's no easy way to educate a population this size, but we've done better in the past, supposedly, and money isn't the issue.

We aren't getting what we're paying for on education in California.
 
Ban straws! But keep handing out needles to drugheads and no means of properly disposing them!
 
enderpotato00 said:
What will banning plastic straws accomplish? They only make up 1% of all ocean trash. We as a country, only contribute to 1% of the oceans plastic problem. Thus banning plastic straws is a stupid feel good tactic.
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It's a liberal feel-good idea.
 
enderpotato00 said:
What will banning plastic straws accomplish? They only make up 1% of all ocean trash. We as a country, only contribute to 1% of the oceans plastic problem. Thus banning plastic straws is a stupid feel good tactic.
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Don't know why California has this problem. We should be able to toss just about anything in a "reclamation container", and have it reclaimed and repurposed; as automatically as industrial automation can make it. We should have no recyclable material going to land fills or our environment.
 
danielpalos said:
Don't know why California has this problem. We should be able to toss just about anything in a "reclamation container", and have it reclaimed and repurposed; as automatically as industrial automation can make it. We should have no recyclable material going to land fills or our environment.
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You really don't understand how the world works... Do you?
 
danielpalos said:
Giga-recycling factories to clean up our environment and defray the cost of Government!
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We have recycling facilities aplenty.

We have a bin for trash, a bin for recyclables, a bin for green waste and some towns have additional bins....

NOT EVERYONE USES THEM.
 
danielpalos said:
Don't know why California has this problem. We should be able to toss just about anything in a "reclamation container", and have it reclaimed and repurposed; as automatically as industrial automation can make it. We should have no recyclable material going to land fills or our environment.
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Sounds great, but how is this going to be profitable and if it's NOT, who's paying for it?

The state has hitched it's wagon to a preemptively failed "supertrain" idea and locally the cities/counties are trying to find a way to reduce traffic congestion by removing lanes from the road.

So upon what basis would I expect anything useful out of the state\local government in CA?

I don't dislike the idea itself, though my own scheme has the homeless employed to sort the recycling for us.

They already do it, so we might as well coordinate, provide safety equipment, and pay them something for it.
 
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danielpalos said:
Don't know why California has this problem. We should be able to toss just about anything in a "reclamation container", and have it reclaimed and repurposed; as automatically as industrial automation can make it. We should have no recyclable material going to land fills or our environment.
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Who pays for the separation of materials?
 
calamity said:
Feel free to turn it into Mississippi.
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By almost every standard-of-living measure, Mississippi consistently ranks as one of the worst states in the nation.
 
Phys251 said:
By almost every standard-of-living measure, Mississippi consistently ranks as one of the worst states in the nation.
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Yea Mississippi was still ranked above California in quality of life.
 
danielpalos said:
depending on efficiency, it could pay for itself; repurposable material will be the end product.

no need to extract and process raw material as much.
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Talking with flatulence I see.
 
Phys251 said:
By almost every standard-of-living measure, Mississippi consistently ranks as one of the worst states in the nation.
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Hmmm... Inexpensive housing and prices are bad for cost of living? Only by libtarded measurements.
 
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