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Slingshot Bob said:
It is LEE COUNTY *guess who they named it after*?
History has shown us what happens when history is erased/ignored.

This episode of the history erasers in my back yard has motivated me to research my geneolgy and reach out to join the SCV, a chapter is right here in my humble city.

Recoil effect. All the Male members in my family can join.
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History eraser. What a pile of bulls**t. Just because you refuse to honour a scoundrel doesn't mean you're erasing history. Any statues of Hitler or Tojo near by where you are? Robert E. Lee was one of the guys who was responsible for more American bloodshed than Hitler and Tojo put together. And you want to honour him for that?
 
Grand Mal said:
History eraser. What a pile of bulls**t. Just because you refuse to honour a scoundrel doesn't mean you're erasing history. Any statues of Hitler or Tojo near by where you are? Robert E. Lee was one of the guys who was responsible for more American bloodshed than Hitler and Tojo put together. And you want to honour him for that?
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Stop Godwinning, by your metric, it applies to the guy on the 5$ bill
 
Grand Mal said:
Okay. But Robert E. Lee wasn't one of those. He was one of those who were responsible for the most American bloodshed in history. The disaster that your country still hasn't completely recovered from. And people want to honour him for that 'accomplishment'.
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Nope, but then again. We don't tell you how to interpret your own personal thoughts in whatever symbol you come across. What you believe it stands for. Is not going to be the same thing that these people believe.
 
Tigerace117 said:
What a titantic load of crap. Then again, I'm not surprised that you think the South being forced to end slavery is "tyranny".

Mexico banned slavery in 1829. That was a big part of what enraged Texans enough to jump ship.
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The south being forced to be part of the union is tyranny.
 
Tigerace117 said:
Lol no. The South started the war by attempting to steal federal property. Furthermore, the South's habit of murdering African American servicemen and enslaving any African Americans they came across during their invasion of the North contradicts your other claim quite easily.
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Lol no. Upon leaving the union, the property of the states reverted to their control. The north refused to vacate and instead invaded, to preserve the union. Enslaving africans, which was also done in the north and around the world is clearly not terrorism, in that it was not in pursuit of political aims.
 
Slingshot Bob said:
OMG, you are so insensitive. I need my cry closet. Shame!!! Shame!!!
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lol...I'm here for ya, buddy. I won't even question why it's the removal of dashing bronze statues of men that cause you to finally shed that John Wayne image and have yourself a good cry. #NoJudging :lol:
 
Oborosen said:
There is a lot of screeching in this empty rant.
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Check again, not empty. If you put glorifying the memory of failed American traitors over the calming down of modern day division, you're part of the problem. :shrug:

'Furthermore, you've completely forgotten the spirit in which they were put up in the first place.
 
Grand Mal said:
Okay. But Robert E. Lee wasn't one of those. He was one of those who were responsible for the most American bloodshed in history. The disaster that your country still hasn't completely recovered from. And people want to honour him for that 'accomplishment'.
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That would be Lincoln (excluding world wars). He initiated a war which resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of americans. The south would not have fought a war if the north would have left them alone.
 
Slingshot Bob said:
To bad you cant do anything but your normal schickt and not disprove the poster you responded to...:roll:
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Yawn. When I'm responding to ahistorical bull**** not based in reality, there is no need to disprove anything. History and the actual record do that for me.

Pity that's a notion utterly lost on you.

Your support of treason and traitors duly noted
 
WCH said:
That war pitted brother against brother. I guess it was all about stupid ****.
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You asked about the NEXT one.... :roll:

'THAT' one was started by arrogant, greedy sumbeaches who didn't want to admit blacks were actual humans with the same natural rights they proclaimed for themselves... :peace
 
notquiteright said:
You asked about the NEXT one.... :roll:

'THAT' one was started by arrogant, greedy sumbeaches who didn't want to admit blacks were actual humans with the same natural rights they proclaimed for themselves... :peace
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Where as the other side was a bunch of people who thought fighting a war would help them feel less guilty.
 
Slingshot Bob said:
Say's a liberal...
Those who forget history...
I am a southerner, if you think I should scorn my ancestors...I have some advice for you, but I cant post it here.

Slavery is still going on in the world today. What have YOU personally done about THAT?
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So much spin. Slavery is gone in the US. The south lost, they were traitors.

Your faux concern for slavery elsewhere is laughable, it is just convenient device you are trying to use to hold on to a shred of credibility.
 
WCH said:
Where as the other side was a bunch of people who thought fighting a war would help them feel less guilty.
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Again who fired the first shot? Who voted to leave the Union? The Rebels THOUGHT Lincoln would lead Congress into VOTING an end to slavery. The 'other side' first and foremost thought the South shouldn't be allowed to leave the Union and rebels firing on Americans couldn't be tolerated. Emancipation came long after the blood was being shed by men in uniform.

You tend to look back and modify the time line to suit your predetermined belief... :peace
 
jonny5 said:
The south being forced to be part of the union is tyranny.
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False. The South imposing slavery on African Americans is tyranny; the South denying African Americans their constitutional rights via terrorism is tyranny; and the South committing treason in itself is tyranny.

The slaveocracy being crushed, however, is not tyranny.
 
Slingshot Bob said:
History erasers, coming to a town near you, soon!

They hate the America of our fathers. They wont stop at Confederate monuments, as we have seen.
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The leftists remind me of the Taliban, ISIS and a bit of Nazi Brownshirts. What next? Book-burnings??
 
jonny5 said:
Lol no. Upon leaving the union, the property of the states reverted to their control. The north refused to vacate and instead invaded, to preserve the union. Enslaving africans, which was also done in the north and around the world is clearly not terrorism, in that it was not in pursuit of political aims.
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Lol no. Forts are federal property. They were never state property.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_enclave

Once a state agreed to allow the construction of a fort, that's it. They don't get to steal it from the federal government no matter how much they want it

Yes, the US government refused to hand over US government property to people who had no right to it.

I hate to break it to you, but the border states, which were by 1860 the only non southern areas in the US to preserve slavery, are hardly "the north".

False once again, slavery had been banned by every other Western country except Brazil well before 1860.

And yes, conducting terrorism and war crimes against African American civilians and soldiers was definitely politically motivated.
 
Slingshot Bob said:
You are not quoting me, quit being dishonest.
As to the rest of your slander, you are painfully ignorant. I suggest you do some research before spouting your SJW ignorant drivel.
You must be a male descendant of a Confederate soldier that honhorably served and genealogically prove it.
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"In his writings, Lee cited multiple reasons for opposing such monuments, questioning the cost of a potential Stonewall Jackson monument, for example. But underlying it all was one rationale: That the war had ended, and the South needed to move on and avoid more upheaval.

“As regards the erection of such a monument as is contemplated,” Lee wrote of an 1866 proposal, “my conviction is, that however grateful it would be to the feelings of the South, the attempt in the present condition of the Country, would have the effect of retarding, instead of accelerating its accomplishment; [and] of continuing, if not adding to, the difficulties under which the Southern people labour.”"

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/robert-e-lee-opposed-confederate-monuments

Robert E Lee explictly said he didn't want any statues.
 
jonny5 said:
That would be Lincoln (excluding world wars). He initiated a war which resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of americans. The south would not have fought a war if the north would have left them alone.
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What a titanic load of crap. The South was a deeply expansionist society with delusions of martial grandeur. They were the driving force behind continual conflict across Latin America in the name of the "Golden Circle".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Circle_(proposed_country)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filibuster_(military)
 
WCH said:
Very few of those soldiers had slaves to fight for. Most were owned by the powerful and rich.
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I see someone already corrected you including citation. 30-50% of households is not "the rich and powerful".


lefty louie said:
Give them a minute, they will want the name of Lee co. changed to King co. any minute now.
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How is that intellectually void belch of a comment anything more than cartoon racism.


Slingshot Bob said:
A modern boogy man. You SJW types should focus your efforts on slavery, still ongoing today.
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What a clever internet trick. Pretend everyone in the thread has never talked, wrote or otherwise was involved in anything else. As if checking into a forum for a few minutes is the sum total of their existence. Well, you'll really get 'em good with that rhetoric. And "sjw" too, that's some hardcore identity politics and virtue signaling there. Are you sure you don't want to condemn "pc"? Did you forget that part or you're saving it for later? Cluck cluck.


Slingshot Bob said:
YOU, are not doing a damn thing. I am looking into joining the SCV as my lineage qualifies me.
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In some fantasy world your joining of an archaic identity politics virtue signaling redneck royalty is meaningful? How quaint. It's a 'dilly dilly' court, and you're proud. Look at that and ask why.

"My grandpappy done fought in that there war of Northern aggression." Don't make me laugh.


Oborosen said:
Difference here is that ISIS aren't traitors to Islam. Nor are they considered to be as such when you study their faith.
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Any mention of Muslims triggers the Islamophobia or only terrorists?


WCH said:
That war pitted brother against brother. I guess it was all about stupid ****.
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And there's a "God told me to enslave black people" reference. Don't you have a chapter and verse for us?
 
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Slingshot Bob said:
History erasers, coming to a town near you, soon!

They hate the America of our fathers. They wont stop at Confederate monuments, as we have seen.
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Be careful here... they'll tell you to go watch reruns of Ozzie and Harriet.
 
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