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Texas city refuses to give people hurricane aid unless they pledge not to boycott Israel

ecofarm said:
It's not a left wing conspiracy to remove freedom of speech by outlawing the protest of Israel engineered by the Zionists. It doesn't mark the beginning of the end. This is not white people's Kristallnacht.

It's a popular state law to deal with Texans living in last century. No one is being refused water, as the title implies. Slow the outrage bus and let everyone that's not an antisemite get off.
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Absolutely none of this -- as in, not a single word -- has a THING to do with anything in my post, or any other post of mine, for that matter. Zilch. Nada. I don't know who you're arguing with, but it's not me.
 
Harshaw said:
Absolutely none of this -- as in, not a single word -- has a THING to do with anything in my post, or any other post of mine, for that matter. Zilch. Nada. I don't know who you're arguing with, but it's not me.
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Your complaint, your victim claim, is BS. It's not "the same thing those libs in CA do to force their gay down our throat". It's a state law regarding government contracts abiding US trade law.

It's not "divisive", except Nazis from government contract.
 
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ecofarm said:
Your complaint, your victim claim, is BS. It's not "the same thing those libs in CA do to force their gay down our throat".
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Even if that was what I said, which it isn't, it would still have absolutely nothing to do with "white people's Kristallnacht," "Zionism," nor whatever bizarre hallucination you had which made you think I was complaining about the law, saying that anyone was being "denied water," or that I disagreed with:

It's a state law regarding government contracts abiding US trade law.
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Like I said, if you want to argue with the voices in your head, that's fine, but you can leave me out of it, because it has nothing to do with me.

Bye, now.
 
Harshaw said:
Even if that was what I said, which it isn't, it would still have absolutely nothing to do with "white people's Kristallnacht," "Zionism," nor whatever bizarre hallucination you had which made you think I was complaining about the law, saying that anyone was being "denied water," or that I disagreed with:



Like I said, if you want to argue with the voices in your head, that's fine, but you can leave me out of it, because it has nothing to do with me.

Bye, now.
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Go play the "I'm a victim of liberals" crap elsewhere. This law is about antisemitism in government contracts. It doesn't play favorites. It's not social engineering. This is Texas state legislation, passed easily.

No localized boycotting of nations in government contracts. Not for Nazis or anyone else.

And again, most importantly, it isn't about people getting water as the dishonest title suggests. It's not, as the title paints, "criticize Israel and no water for you".
 
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cuban smokes said:
if Texans don't like their 'government' then they are free to move else where; correct? Let them eat U-Haul, or Hertz, or (fill in blank)
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Now there's that, " let's only put in a half arsed effort" americans are known and loved for. You do know that it is an elected government not a military imposed dictatorship, don't you. They are also free to campaign for a better government.
 
holbritter said:
They can have freedom of speech. They just won't get any state contracts. Simple enough.
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I think we might need to sit down and have a good long discussion on the meaning of the word freedom, meaning not having to face persecution for saying something.
 
soylentgreen said:
I think we might need to sit down and have a good long discussion on the meaning of the word freedom, meaning not having to face persecution for saying something.
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how about the freedom of not wanting to do business with someone who boycotts a nation? Where is their freedom?
 
A good read from Jonathan Turley


Houston-Area Residents Told To Certify That They Do Not Support Boycotting Israel As Pre-Condition For Hurricane Relief

https://jonathanturley.org/2017/10/23/houston-area-residents-told-to-certify-that-they-do-not-support-boycotting-israel-as-pre-condition-for-hurricane-relief/

Now there is a story out of Dickinson, Texas where residents were told that they had to guarantee that they do not support boycotts of Israel as a pre-condition of hurricane relief. Again, this is nothing to do with the merits of the BDS controversy or Israel. The question is the constitutionality of the federal or state government demanding such commitments from citizens to secure employment or relief.
 
holbritter said:
how about the freedom of not wanting to do business with someone who boycotts a nation? Where is their freedom?
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But refusing aid from storm damage because someone has an opinion you do not like is a different matter all together, especially when it is a government meant to represent all and not just play favoritism.
 
soylentgreen said:
Texas city refuses to give people hurricane aid unless they pledge not to boycott Israel | The Independent


I thought at first that this must surely be fake news.
But then i looked this up,
https://gov.texas.gov/news/post/anti-israel-policies-are-anti-texas-policies


How do you people even manage to keep up the pretence of having freedom of speech?
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This is no different that California refusing to use contractors who do business with other states, for political reasons.
 
soylentgreen said:
Now there's that, " let's only put in a half arsed effort" americans are known and loved for. You do know that it is an elected government not a military imposed dictatorship, don't you. They are also free to campaign for a better government.
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They should be like good communists and start murdering thousands of innocent people, right?
 
soylentgreen said:
Texas city refuses to give people hurricane aid unless they pledge not to boycott Israel | The Independent


I thought at first that this must surely be fake news.
But then i looked this up,
https://gov.texas.gov/news/post/anti-israel-policies-are-anti-texas-policies


How do you people even manage to keep up the pretence of having freedom of speech?
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Fighting for freedom is a never ending battle.


If I understand the Texas bill correctly it makes it so the state government can't hire contractors or fund anyone who boycotts Israel. So any funding it gives out must be in compliance with that law. But I assume that would only be for state funding and not Federal such as FEMA. But still, it does seem a violation of free speech considering that money has protected political speech rights.
 
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apdst said:
This is no different that California refusing to use contractors who do business with other states, for political reasons.
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To me it does not matter whether liberals or conservatives are doing it. We should all be able to agree that no government should be doing things like this. This really is a slippery slope towards tyranny.
 
Tigerace117 said:
They should be like good communists and start murdering thousands of innocent people, right?
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Do you really want an arguement on communism? You can start with pointing out the part in the philosophy that says if you elect a mass murdering psycopath as your leader then what could possibly go wrong.
 
Moot said:
Fighting for freedom is a never ending battle.


If I understand the Texas bill correctly it makes it so the state government can't hire contractors or fund anyone who boycotts Israel. So any funding it gives out must be in compliance with that law. But I assume that would only be for state funding and not Federal such as FEMA. But still, it does seem a violation of free speech considering that money has protected political speech rights.
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It is strange and makes it seem as if these state governments can get away with all sorts of crap. It is such an overt abuse of power that i wonder how they can get away with it.
 
digsbe said:
Reminds me of some of those states boycotting travel or state funds to other states that didn't conform to their whims over SSM.
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Only if you are prone to absurd comparisons.
 
soylentgreen said:
Do you really want an arguement on communism? You can start with pointing out the part in the philosophy that says if you elect a mass murdering psycopath as your leader then what could possibly go wrong.
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Clearly it's in all parts of communism, because every communist leader has been a mass murdering psychopath
 
Tigerace117 said:
Clearly it's in all parts of communism, because every communist leader has been a mass murdering psychopath
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Argue by association. Every american must be an idiot because there president is one.

Once again your failure to point out anything in the philosophy to back your crap is noted.
Do you evrn have a clue what communist philosophy is?
 
soylentgreen said:
Argue by association. Every american must be an idiot because there president is one.

Once again your failure to point out anything in the philosophy to back your crap is noted.
Do you evrn have a clue what communist philosophy is?
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Except every single president has not been an idiot, and every single communist leader has been responsible for the murder of thousands of innocent people.

Check the records buddy. Every. Single. One. Of. Them.

Literally every single time, it's lead to mass killings.

Time for you to face facts buddy---communism has been throughly discredited in the minds of the world.
 
Tigerace117 said:
Except every single president has not been an idiot, and every single communist leader has been responsible for the murder of thousands of innocent people.

Check the records buddy. Every. Single. One. Of. Them.

Literally every single time, it's lead to mass killings.

Time for you to face facts buddy---communism has been throughly discredited in the minds of the world.
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As I pointed out that there has never beeen a communist country only despots who call it that. You are desperate again to ignore that north korea calls itself a democratic republic just as you are desperate to ignore that once again you have failed to point out one single part of communist philosophy that will back you.

The world is quite aware of communist philosophy and do not associate it with the dictatorships who have used the name. That is just the indoctrinated crap of americans who are still being taught to fear communsism.
 
soylentgreen said:
As I pointed out that there has never beeen a communist country only despots who call it that. You are desperate again to ignore that north korea calls itself a democratic republic just as you are desperate to ignore that once again you have failed to point out one single part of communist philosophy that will back you.

The world is quite aware of communist philosophy and do not associate it with the dictatorships who have used the name. That is just the indoctrinated crap of americans who are still being taught to fear communsism.
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And as I pointed out, your denial of reality is amusing but totally pointless. No one is going to oblige your fantasy world; in fact, every single communist regime has been despotic, and indeed there are plenty of failed attempts by communists to take power via violence. It seems the only thing communism is good for is murdering innocent people.

The world is well aware of the millions of innocent people communism has murdered, which is why outside of a few decrepit hellholes it has largely died out. Even China has been steadily moving away from the "good ole days" of tanks running over protestors and death camps.

Only in a backwater like New Zealand can people like you cling to the delusion that communism hasn't been throughly discredited.
 
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