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    Re: Texas city refuses to give people hurricane aid unless they pledge not to boycott Israel

    It's not like it's uncommon these days. California uses exactly the same kind of tactic to wage social policy war on other states.

    It's all quite divisive, but let's not pretend this is some kind of "crazy Texas" thing.

    As for "foreign policy" or federal business, "sanctuary cities" have been in effect for decades, and now California has (or soon will) declared itself a "sanctuary state." Immigration is entirely a federal concern.
    It's not "tolerance" if you already approve of what you purport to "tolerate."

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    Re: Texas city refuses to give people hurricane aid unless they pledge not to boycott Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    It's not like it's uncommon these days. California uses exactly the same kind of tactic to wage social policy war on other states.

    It's all quite divisive, but let's not pretend this is some kind of "crazy Texas" thing.
    I don't think you get it. The crazy Texas thing is them needing a law on the books (an absurd, possibly unconstitutional, enumeration of federal jurisdiction) to prevent tiny localities from setting their own foreign trade policy. A city, of course, has no jurisdiction over foreign trade, that's fed territory.

    To make it more ridiculous, these dozen or so people seek to set US trade policy not through treaty, negotiations or other normal means. They're gonna bypass US law, logic and reason to... get da joos.


    Florida is not as bad as its reputation.
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    Re: Texas city refuses to give people hurricane aid unless they pledge not to boycott Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by soylentgreen View Post
    Texas city refuses to give people hurricane aid unless they pledge not to boycott Israel | The Independent


    I thought at first that this must surely be fake news.
    But then i looked this up,
    https://gov.texas.gov/news/post/anti...texas-policies


    How do you people even manage to keep up the pretence of having freedom of speech?
    Not much different from Trump's Press Secretary telling the White House Press Corps that it's "inappropriate" to question a four-star general...I guess, 'cause since when should any real American ever be so rude as to point out something wrong that was said or done by someone in the military? Who the heck needs the First Amendment anymore, I guess....
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    Re: Texas city refuses to give people hurricane aid unless they pledge not to boycott Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I don't think you get it. The crazy Texas thing is them needing a law on the books (an absurd, possibly unconstitutional, enumeration of federal jurisdiction) to prevent tiny localities from setting their own foreign trade policy. A city, of course, has no jurisdiction over foreign trade, that's fed territory.

    To make it more ridiculous, these dozen or so people seek to set US trade policy not through treaty, negotiations or other normal means. They're gonna bypass US law, logic and reason to... get da joos.


    Florida is not as bad as its reputation.
    I really hope you're joking.
    It's not "tolerance" if you already approve of what you purport to "tolerate."

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    Re: Texas city refuses to give people hurricane aid unless they pledge not to boycott Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    I really hope you're joking.
    The law is for state contractors, because of members of city council in tiny cities wanting to boycott Israel, setting their own city-wide foreign trade policy. It's not for private individuals. The title is misleading.

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    Re: Texas city refuses to give people hurricane aid unless they pledge not to boycott Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I don't think you get it. The crazy Texas thing is them needing a law on the books (an absurd, possibly unconstitutional, enumeration of federal jurisdiction) to prevent tiny localities from setting their own foreign trade policy. A city, of course, has no jurisdiction over foreign trade, that's fed territory.

    To make it more ridiculous, these dozen or so people seek to set US trade policy not through treaty, negotiations or other normal means. They're gonna bypass US law, logic and reason to... get da joos.


    Florida is not as bad as its reputation.
    To repeat, however, if this Texas law is unconstitutional, then a lot of laws are going down the tubes. Set asides favor one group over another. California does not have the right to demand that states doing business with them must comply with their idea of acceptable treatment of da transgenders. (One of the few powers lying with the feds). States do not have the right to demand that my legally owned and carried weapon is not allowed in their state.

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    Re: Texas city refuses to give people hurricane aid unless they pledge not to boycott Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    To repeat, however, if this Texas law is unconstitutional, then a lot of laws are going down the tubes. Set asides favor one group over another.
    No, it doesn't. It might be unconstitutional, despite affecting only state contractors. It was put in place, signed by the Gov, because a handful of white supremacists in backwoods villages called cities pushed for a city boycott of Israel. Instead of trying to explain to the scumbags that cities don't have jurisdiction over foreign trade policy, the state law was enacted.

    Texas governor Greg Abbott signed legislation requiring all state contractors to pledge not to boycott Israel earlier this year.

    "As Israel's number one trading partner in the United States, Texas is proud to reaffirm its support for the people of Israel and we will continue to build on our historic partnership," he said in May. "Anti-Israel policies are anti-Texas policies, and we will not tolerate such actions against an important ally."

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    Re: Texas city refuses to give people hurricane aid unless they pledge not to boycott Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by soylentgreen View Post
    Texas city refuses to give people hurricane aid unless they pledge not to boycott Israel | The Independent


    I thought at first that this must surely be fake news.
    But then i looked this up,
    https://gov.texas.gov/news/post/anti...texas-policies


    How do you people even manage to keep up the pretence of having freedom of speech?
    It doesn't sound aa though it would survive the Supreme Court.

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    Re: Texas city refuses to give people hurricane aid unless they pledge not to boycott Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    It doesn't sound aa though it would survive the Supreme Court.
    It doesn't matter. Backwoods city councils will not be allowed to enact city wide boycotts of foreign nations, Israel or otherwise. The law sailed through state legislation and the governor and he was very specific about what the law targeted. Other means would be employed.

    If one would like to debate the constitutionality of holding government contractors to federal trade law, that's something. But to oppose the law on the grounds of its intentions is to support the local supremacist attempts to enact city ordinance contrary to US law.

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    Re: Texas city refuses to give people hurricane aid unless they pledge not to boycott Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    The law is for state contractors, because of members of city council in tiny cities wanting to boycott Israel, setting their own city-wide foreign trade policy. It's not for private individuals. The title is misleading.
    So . . . ?
    It's not "tolerance" if you already approve of what you purport to "tolerate."

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