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Voter Fraud Database Tops 1,000 Proven Cases

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Voter Fraud Database Tops 1,000 Proven Cases

[FONT=&quot]As the Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity convenes its first meeting on Wednesday, the issue of voter fraud in American elections has become even more contentious and hyperbolic.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]One of the left’s main arguments against reform is that voter fraud simply does not occur. How liberals arrive at this conclusion, we cannot say.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Time and again, studies and analyses point to one incontrovertible conclusion: that voter fraud is a real and pressing issue that deserves serious solutions, and The Heritage Foundation has the evidence to prove it.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]On Thursday, The Heritage Foundation is releasing a new edition of its voter fraud database. Featuring well over 100 new cases, the database documents 1,071 instances of voter fraud spanning 47 states, including 938 criminal convictions.[/FONT]
Imagine what a serious indepth investigation of voter fraud would reveal...
 
Afraid to show your source? Where's the link?

O.K. The Daily Signal. No wonder your posts are so far right and hyperbolic they fall off the edge of the earth.
 
I'm still not convinced there is some overall problem and I'm don't agree with collecting every voter's personal information to supposedly try and find out.
 
Imagine what a serious indepth investigation of voter fraud would reveal...

It would probably show that each and every one of those 1000 incidents were committed by Republicans.
 
Imagine what a serious indepth investigation of voter fraud would reveal...
Well given this dedicated organisation is reporting any form of electoral fraud across the entire US over the last 20 years and has come up with just over 1000 case, possibly not a vast amount more.

There’s also the issue of what most people imagine when you say “voter fraud” and the kinds of things that actually happen are often quite distinct. As a result, the most loudly proposed “solutions” often wouldn’t actually address the most common or impactful forms for fraud. For example, the always popular “voter ID” call doesn’t help with the bulk of cases involving absentee ballots, fraudulent registrations or fraud by corrupt officials. In fact, I’d go as far as to say that the blinkered push for “voter ID” has only served to distract from actually solutions to those issues, particularly around voter registration.
 
I'm still not convinced there is some overall problem and I'm don't agree with collecting every voter's personal information to supposedly try and find out.

How about just "collecting" their driver's licenses state i.d.?
 
It would be hilarious if this "integrity" investigation found that the EC was won due to voter fraud.
 
This goes along with the thread.

Liberal hysteria over Trump's voter fraud panel proves why it's needed

OPINION | Liberal hysteria over Trump's voter fraud panel proves why it's needed | TheHill

The commission’s first action was to ask all 50 states to send in voter registration records — including names, dates of birth, and voting history — in order to study the extent of voter fraud. A number of states have refused to comply.

How could states hold onto such information? Well, they can’t. The Trump administration only requested information that is “publicly available under the laws of your state.” In the case of the last four digits of social security numbers, the commission only requested that information if it is public record in any particular state. States can of course send in all the other information to the commission but withhold partial social security numbers if they are not public record.

That’s not what the headlines say, though. There is full-on panic from the same people that say voter fraud never happens. To a CNN contributor, it’s a “sham.” To the New York Times editorial board, it’s “fraudulent.” Left-of-center voters were so offended by the commission, that they bombarded its office with porn. The open meetings are operating “in the dark,” says the ACLU. It will “suppress” the vote. It’s Trump’s “biggest lie.”
 
Imagine what a serious in depth investigation of voter fraud would reveal...
Two thousand! Still almost invisble in 135 million votes. There is no, has been no proof, of significant fraud in voting, even by the far right, where it is expected.
 
Imagine what a serious indepth investigation of voter fraud would reveal...
First of all, this source you cite includes "false registrations", which doesn't mean voter fraud. Furthermore, of the first several cases of "false registration" listed, none of them has suggested the person voted under their false registration. In fact, several of them were to run for an elected position, not to vote. So your "1000 cases" already has a HUGE problem with integrity.

Second of all, I see at least one of the cases goes all the way back to 1991. That's over 25 years ago. In that time, in JUST presidential elections alone, the Republican and Democratic candidates have received over 775,000,000 votes (this doesn't include third party votes, which would push the total over 800,000,000 on Ross Perot's votes alone). This means, according to my math, if we accept as true your 1071 cases (which isn't true for reasons already mentioned) you're talking about .000138 percent of votes being fraudulent.

So yes, imagine what an in-depth investigation would reveal...MAYBE it'd get up to .000139%. Who knows? :roll:
 
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This goes along with the thread.

Liberal hysteria over Trump's voter fraud panel proves why it's needed

OPINION | Liberal hysteria over Trump's voter fraud panel proves why it's needed | TheHill

The commission’s first action was to ask all 50 states to send in voter registration records — including names, dates of birth, and voting history — in order to study the extent of voter fraud. A number of states have refused to comply.

How could states hold onto such information? Well, they can’t. The Trump administration only requested information that is “publicly available under the laws of your state.” In the case of the last four digits of social security numbers, the commission only requested that information if it is public record in any particular state. States can of course send in all the other information to the commission but withhold partial social security numbers if they are not public record.

That’s not what the headlines say, though. There is full-on panic from the same people that say voter fraud never happens. To a CNN contributor, it’s a “sham.” To the New York Times editorial board, it’s “fraudulent.” Left-of-center voters were so offended by the commission, that they bombarded its office with porn. The open meetings are operating “in the dark,” says the ACLU. It will “suppress” the vote. It’s Trump’s “biggest lie.”
If you are conservative, then you must support the states that refuse to comply. That is there right. Trump has no right to citizens' personal info.
 
Imagine what a serious indepth investigation of voter fraud would reveal...

You guys have been flogging this horse for YEARS.

Nobody on the left says there's none. Just not enough to be significant.

If there were enough to matter, y'all would have found it by now.



Of course there is some voter fraud.

1000 cases.
 
Imagine what a serious indepth investigation of voter fraud would reveal...

Yawn. What Trump and Kobach have been directly implying is direct, in-person voter fraud. What Heritage describes isn't that.

And, no, 'the left' has not been arguing that voter fraud 'simply does not occur'.

False premises? No, thank you.
 
Imagine what a serious indepth investigation of voter fraud would reveal...

I think that the "does not occur" argument is more that the kind of voter fraud that would be stopped with voter ID laws is exceedingly rare.
Indeed, this voter fraud cases report shows that there were around a dozen impersonation cases since 2004—around one a year.
 
Last I read, their was nothing in the Constitution claiming the federal government should be running our elections or collecting our voting data, much less that the Trump org should be building a national voter database!

And let's not forget: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

The People run the elections, not the government! :doh

This is a grab by the Trump org, under the guise of "government". And it's big government, at that. Does anyone trust Donnie Boy with their personal data? I don't trust him at all, much less trust him with my data!
 
And to add:

Whatever fraud - if any - occurring at the individual level, will pale in comparison to that which will occur at the federal level within the Trump administration.

How could anyone be so naive, as to go along with this?
 
I'm still not convinced there is some overall problem and I'm don't agree with collecting every voter's personal information to supposedly try and find out.


It's publically available information that is being sold to any party for big bucks.
 
Last I read, their was nothing in the Constitution claiming the federal government should be running our elections or collecting our voting data, much less that the Trump org should be building a national voter database!

And let's not forget: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

The People run the elections, not the government! :doh

This is a grab by the Trump org, under the guise of "government". And it's big government, at that. Does anyone trust Donnie Boy with their personal data? I don't trust him at all, much less trust him with my data!

I don't agree with the methods the Trump team is taking, I DO want to see each state doa deep dive on the matter, and shore up the voter rolls, and increase fraud deterrent. Voting is the exercise of power, and we should ensure it's use is proper.
 
And publish everybody's address?

Ever been on your county's database? And why would having to show one's address at the voting booth be akin to publishing it? Is it published when you cash a check? Open a bank account? Get a library card? See your doctor? Get admitted into the hospital? Get married? Get divorced? Buy a home?

Isn't voting a bit more important than getting a resident pool pass to your neighborhood pool?
 
Imagine what a serious indepth investigation of voter fraud would reveal...
uh huh

The list counts 1000 cases of fraud... OVER 35 YEARS. Their list goes back to 1982.

That's 28 per year.

And there have been intense efforts to find voter fraud, by Republicans and conservatives, for several years now. And they're not finding it.

 
I'm still not convinced there is some overall problem and I'm don't agree with collecting every voter's personal information to supposedly try and find out.

Kathy Harris and Jeb Bush purged 80K legit voters in south FL back in 2000 so they could "deliver the state" to GWB. That's how real election rigging is done. That, and making sure minority areas have way too few working voting machines, forcing folks to wait hours to vote.
 
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