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    Re: Voter Fraud Database Tops 1,000 Proven Cases

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    I'm still not convinced there is some overall problem and I'm don't agree with collecting every voter's personal information to supposedly try and find out.

    It's publically available information that is being sold to any party for big bucks.
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    Re: Voter Fraud Database Tops 1,000 Proven Cases

    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    Last I read, their was nothing in the Constitution claiming the federal government should be running our elections or collecting our voting data, much less that the Trump org should be building a national voter database!

    And let's not forget: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

    The People run the elections, not the government!

    This is a grab by the Trump org, under the guise of "government". And it's big government, at that. Does anyone trust Donnie Boy with their personal data? I don't trust him at all, much less trust him with my data!
    I don't agree with the methods the Trump team is taking, I DO want to see each state doa deep dive on the matter, and shore up the voter rolls, and increase fraud deterrent. Voting is the exercise of power, and we should ensure it's use is proper.
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    Re: Voter Fraud Database Tops 1,000 Proven Cases

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    And publish everybody's address?
    Ever been on your county's database? And why would having to show one's address at the voting booth be akin to publishing it? Is it published when you cash a check? Open a bank account? Get a library card? See your doctor? Get admitted into the hospital? Get married? Get divorced? Buy a home?

    Isn't voting a bit more important than getting a resident pool pass to your neighborhood pool?
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    Re: Voter Fraud Database Tops 1,000 Proven Cases

    Quote Originally Posted by Renae View Post
    Imagine what a serious indepth investigation of voter fraud would reveal...
    uh huh

    The list counts 1000 cases of fraud... OVER 35 YEARS. Their list goes back to 1982.

    That's 28 per year.

    And there have been intense efforts to find voter fraud, by Republicans and conservatives, for several years now. And they're not finding it.


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    Re: Voter Fraud Database Tops 1,000 Proven Cases

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    I'm still not convinced there is some overall problem and I'm don't agree with collecting every voter's personal information to supposedly try and find out.
    Kathy Harris and Jeb Bush purged 80K legit voters in south FL back in 2000 so they could "deliver the state" to GWB. That's how real election rigging is done. That, and making sure minority areas have way too few working voting machines, forcing folks to wait hours to vote.

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    Re: Voter Fraud Database Tops 1,000 Proven Cases

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    I'm still not convinced there is some overall problem and I'm don't agree with collecting every voter's personal information to supposedly try and find out.
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    Re: Voter Fraud Database Tops 1,000 Proven Cases

    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    Last I read, their was nothing in the Constitution claiming the federal government should be running our elections or collecting our voting data, much less that the Trump org should be building a national voter database!

    And let's not forget: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

    The People run the elections, not the government!

    This is a grab by the Trump org, under the guise of "government". And it's big government, at that. Does anyone trust Donnie Boy with their personal data? I don't trust him at all, much less trust him with my data!

    Right on! He won't trust 'we the people' with his data.

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    Re: Voter Fraud Database Tops 1,000 Proven Cases

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckiechan View Post
    It's publically available information that is being sold to any party for big bucks.
    Not everything Kobach demanded is "public information". His own state refused to comply.

    Why are 'conservatives' so eager to spend "big" taxpayer "bucks" looking for a problem they haven't been able to prove exists, even after decades? And millions spent?

    We need a government program to solve a problem they can't find. Very "conservative". ha ha ha...

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    Re: Voter Fraud Database Tops 1,000 Proven Cases

    Quote Originally Posted by Renae View Post
    I don't agree with the methods the Trump team is taking, I DO want to see each state doa deep dive on the matter, and shore up the voter rolls, and increase fraud deterrent. Voting is the exercise of power, and we should ensure it's use is proper.
    I agree completely! Nothing is more sacrosanct to the democratic process, than vote integrity.

    But Trump building a federal voting database is not the solution.

    For the first time in the country's history the federal government is declaring our election tally was in error! What? Is this some banana republic? Can you see the next step, in Trump's mind? Yes! They will be determining the State's voting "integrity", at the federal level! My God! Will they "review" our elections? Will they "vet" our elections? Will the purge the voter rolls (selectively or not)?

    And why do they require party affiliation and voting history?

    No freaking way, will I go for this!

    And of all the ironies, the guy in charge of the commission that sent the letter? Korbach, Kansas' Secretary of State? He can't comply due to his state's privacy law! And it's a letter he sent to himself!

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    Re: Voter Fraud Database Tops 1,000 Proven Cases

    Quote Originally Posted by Renae View Post
    Imagine what a serious indepth investigation of voter fraud would reveal...
    The issue with this is that there is evidence of actual crimes.

    The Dems only like to investigate crimes for which there is no crime to start with, no evidence so prove it and no statute to rely on. All they need is a hated target to go after.

    Not much different than the practices they followed in the segregated South. I guess old habits are hard to break.
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