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Voter Fraud Database Tops 1,000 Proven Cases

Imagine what a serious indepth investigation of voter fraud would reveal...

Oh wow, 0.00083% of the votes in the 2016 election were fraudulent!? Holy crap. This definitely justifies preventing millions of people from voting due to ID laws. I was kind of on the fence before, but honestly now I'm really sold.
 
Oh wow, 0.00083% of the votes in the 2016 election were fraudulent!? Holy crap. This definitely justifies preventing millions of people from voting due to ID laws. I was kind of on the fence before, but honestly now I'm really sold.

Lol. Trumps narcissism just won't allow him to accept that Hillary won the popular vote. It also negates any Trump claim to a popular mandate.
 
The easiest way to do voter fraud and get away with it, works best in places where one party runs a state as its own slush fund. As an example, about 60% of the eligible voters voted, nationally, in the last presidential election. That means 40% of the population did not vote for one reason or another.

What would happen if political insiders, buffered by a one party state, voted for those who never vote? It would not be hard for local officials to compare census data with voter registration data and voter habits, to see who can vote but who never votes. On paper such votes will look legitimate, while the person, who never votes, but who has officials vote for them, will never know.

If outsiders were to look at the voter data, they would only see eligible voters. Investigative groups would need to go door to door and talk to each voter, one by one, and ask if they voted. This could explain why certain states do not wish to share records even if kosher on paper.

For example, the vote turn out in California for the 2016 presidential election was 75% of eligible voters, while the national average was about 60%. If we multiple the 19.5 million eligible voters of California, by the 15% difference, we get 2.9 million votes.
 
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No, it is not. All states are supposed to purge their roles. So you are admitting the system works: thank you.

That is oh so true. You all know Trump's ego is much bigger than something else of his. He was deeply hurt when he lost the popular vote which his ego will not allow him to accept.
His solution: Since losing the popular can not possibly be "true" according to his mindset, it must be because of "widespread voter fraud" according to his personna. Therefore, let us have a commission that will "validate" this delusion.
 
That is oh so true. You all know Trump's ego is much bigger than something else of his. He was deeply hurt when he lost the popular vote which his ego will not allow him to accept.
His solution: Since losing the popular can not possibly be "true" according to his mindset, it must be because of "widespread voter fraud" according to his personna. Therefore, let us have a commission that will "validate" this delusion.

Spot on, Glowpun.
 
I still want to know how one would organize such massive voter fraud as Trump claims. I did some time as an organizer, and can't imagine how what would amount to the greatest fraud in history (3 million fake votes) could happen without anyone noticing... except Trump, of course.
 
LOL...cognitive dissonance on display! lol

True, but Republicans are the ones displaying it.....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...rged-with-voter-fraud/?utm_term=.a28bf43873a8


You see you idiots have yourselves and your base so convinced that voter fraud is a major problem, and the only reason Democrats are winning. The result is that Republicans think they are justified in committing voter fraud in an effort to counter act that Democratic voter fraud that's going on. The reality is though that there is little or no Democratic Voter fraud which is why Republicans seem to be the only ones getting caught doing it.
 
True, but Republicans are the ones displaying it.....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...rged-with-voter-fraud/?utm_term=.a28bf43873a8


You see you idiots have yourselves and your base so convinced that voter fraud is a major problem, and the only reason Democrats are winning. The result is that Republicans think they are justified in committing voter fraud in an effort to counter act that Democratic voter fraud that's going on. The reality is though that there is little or no Democratic Voter fraud which is why Republicans seem to be the only ones getting caught doing it.

Damn, you found ONE case. You sure convinced me!:lamo
 
I still want to know how one would organize such massive voter fraud as Trump claims. I did some time as an organizer, and can't imagine how what would amount to the greatest fraud in history (3 million fake votes) could happen without anyone noticing... except Trump, of course.

Not only is it possible, but it's already happening. Look at this audit that detailed how we currently have 1.4 million illegals working in this country with stolen social security numbers.

1.4 million illegals working under stolen Social Security numbers: Audit - Washington Times

If this is possible, then why not defraud elections, which is much easier to get away with?
 
Oh wow, 0.00083% of the votes in the 2016 election were fraudulent!? Holy crap. This definitely justifies preventing millions of people from voting due to ID laws. I was kind of on the fence before, but honestly now I'm really sold.

Trump claims millions voted illegally.
Lefties claim there is no vote fraud.
Lefties don't want claims investigated.
Lefties claim voter ID laws will disenfranchise millions.

Guys, it's pretty clear where the fraud is. This is where the numbers match. In the end, Trump is right about the fraud. People who cannot prove their citizenship have no business voting.
 
The easiest way to do voter fraud and get away with it, works best in places where one party runs a state as its own slush fund. As an example, about 60% of the eligible voters voted, nationally, in the last presidential election. That means 40% of the population did not vote for one reason or another.

What would happen if political insiders, buffered by a one party state, voted for those who never vote? It would not be hard for local officials to compare census data with voter registration data and voter habits, to see who can vote but who never votes. On paper such votes will look legitimate, while the person, who never votes, but who has officials vote for them, will never know.

If outsiders were to look at the voter data, they would only see eligible voters. Investigative groups would need to go door to door and talk to each voter, one by one, and ask if they voted. This could explain why certain states do not wish to share records even if kosher on paper.

For example, the vote turn out in California for the 2016 presidential election was 75% of eligible voters, while the national average was about 60%. If we multiple the 19.5 million eligible voters of California, by the 15% difference, we get 2.9 million votes.

Everyone knows that this is where most of the fraud is. I can't wait for California's voter rolls to be purged and under federal review.
 
Not only is it possible, but it's already happening. Look at this audit that detailed how we currently have 1.4 million illegals working in this country with stolen social security numbers.

1.4 million illegals working under stolen Social Security numbers: Audit - Washington Times

If this is possible, then why not defraud elections, which is much easier to get away with?

So we have 1.4 illegals with Social Security nos.? You're less than halfway there in numbers, if you believe the lower of Trump's fantasy figures. Not anywhere near there in motivation. Have you ever worked with immigrants? I did for 25 years, and cannot imagine them taking my or anyone else's advice to first register and then vote fraudulently. Immigrants, legal and illegal, often have citizen friends and neighbors. No way they would allow them to do such a thing... What is their motivation? Ok, some insidious force pays them, say $50, probably a day's pay for many. Lessee, 1.4 million illegals ALL decide to vote cause I pay them --- cost, $75 million. And they can still go in the booth and vote for the other guy.

Chicago in the 50s had suspect elections. So did elections the segregated south. It took high government officials, lower level operators, a corrupt culture, the refusal of the federal government to get involved, was well known to anyone paying attention and easily reported on as well. What your are suggesting is the greatest, most well organized, expensive fraud in history. And this miracle is pulled off with no one noticing. Except the all-seeing Donald.

If you can explain how to organize this, you could do all of Jarred Kushner's jobs in your spare time.
 
So we have 1.4 illegals with Social Security nos.? You're less than halfway there in numbers, if you believe the lower of Trump's fantasy figures. Not anywhere near there in motivation. Have you ever worked with immigrants? I did for 25 years, and cannot imagine them taking my or anyone else's advice to first register and then vote fraudulently. Immigrants, legal and illegal, often have citizen friends and neighbors. No way they would allow them to do such a thing... What is their motivation? Ok, some insidious force pays them, say $50, probably a day's pay for many. Lessee, 1.4 million illegals ALL decide to vote cause I pay them --- cost, $75 million. And they can still go in the booth and vote for the other guy.

Chicago in the 50s had suspect elections. So did elections the segregated south. It took high government officials, lower level operators, a corrupt culture, the refusal of the federal government to get involved, was well known to anyone paying attention and easily reported on as well. What your are suggesting is the greatest, most well organized, expensive fraud in history. And this miracle is pulled off with no one noticing. Except the all-seeing Donald.

If you can explain how to organize this, you could do all of Jarred Kushner's jobs in your spare time.

That's where you're wrong. There's no organization required. Just come here illegally, register to vote, and do it. It's not hard.
 
That's where you're wrong. There's no organization required. Just come here illegally, register to vote, and do it. It's not hard.

You still haven't explained why immigrants would do this, as most people are generally honest, or alternatively, are fearful of authorities in a country they are visiting -- much more so if they are here improperly. What would motivate them to make millions of individual decisions to do this in any large numbers? Depending on where you live, you can probably find some illegals working somewhere. Go and ask them if they would like to vote in the US.
Then duck.

And how will you prevent these clever, persistent aliens from continuing to do this, given their extraordinary motivation to do what you imagine? Voter ID? ... no problem, they'll get fraudulent documents. But the big, overarching question, why would they want to do this? Ain't no there there.
 
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You still haven't explained why immigrants would do this, as most people are generally honest, or alternatively, are fearful of authorities in a country they are visiting -- much more so if they are here improperly. What would motivate them to make millions of individual decisions to do this in any large numbers? Depending on where you live, you can probably find some illegals working somewhere. Go and ask them if they would like to vote in the US.
Then duck.

And how will you prevent these clever, persistent aliens from continuing to do this, given their extraordinary motivation to do what you imagine? Voter ID? ... no problem, they'll get fraudulent documents. But the big, overarching question, why would they want to do this? Ain't no there there.

Imagine you're here illegally. Imagine there's a candidate running who's going to grant you citizenship, and one who's promising to deport you. Why wouldn't you go ahead and vote illegally for the one who's going to protect you?

As for your second question, why would you do nothing to protect against fraud in the face of the huge incentives for doing it?
 
Not only is it possible, but it's already happening. Look at this audit that detailed how we currently have 1.4 million illegals working in this country with stolen social security numbers.

1.4 million illegals working under stolen Social Security numbers: Audit - Washington Times

If this is possible, then why not defraud elections, which is much easier to get away with?

A. There's still no evidence for Trump's claim.
B. That link you supplied to the Moonie Times doesn't demonstrate that 'it's already happening'.
C. Why be so dishonest?
 
Imagine you're here illegally. Imagine there's a candidate running who's going to grant you citizenship, and one who's promising to deport you. Why wouldn't you go ahead and vote illegally for the one who's going to protect you?

As for your second question, why would you do nothing to protect against fraud in the face of the huge incentives for doing it?

Please provide evidence that supports Trump's claim. You've been asked to do so several times, and all you can do is offer empty conjecture with no basis in reality.
 
Imagine you're here illegally. Imagine there's a candidate running who's going to grant you citizenship, and one who's promising to deport you. Why wouldn't you go ahead and vote illegally for the one who's going to protect you?

As for your second question, why would you do nothing to protect against fraud in the face of the huge incentives for doing it?

Doesn't wash. They wouldn't do it. I worked with immigrants for 25 years. Everyone of my colleagues in the same field would counsel against it, people who work with them daily. The incentives don't exist. These are not stupid people, they would laugh at the suggestion. Go out and volunteer with immigrant assistant organizations, ask around, and report back. If your findings contradict mine, we can talk.
 
Doesn't wash. They wouldn't do it. I worked with immigrants for 25 years. Everyone of my colleagues in the same field would counsel against it, people who work with them daily. The incentives don't exist. These are not stupid people, they would laugh at the suggestion. Go out and volunteer with immigrant assistant organizations, ask around, and report back. If your findings contradict mine, we can talk.

They absolutely exist. I just explained to you what the incentives are.
 
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