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Blue Lives flag is racist.

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Apparently, if you have the Blue Lives flag flying, in support of police officers, it's racist and you have to take it down.

St. Johns County homeowner told to take down Blue Lives Matter flag | WJAX-TV

Recently, his daughter received a letter asking her to remove the flag, saying it doesn’t fit the rules and regulations of the homeowners association.

"She called to ask why," Gaddie said. "They told her they had received a complaint that it was considered racist, offensive and anti-black lives matter.”

She said she was asked to submit a form for permission to fly the flag -- so she sent in the request.

The request was denied.
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Infinite Chaos said:
There's something deeply wrong in any country that has to have blue / black / white lives matter protests. You may have finally given your black community equal rights and humanity only 60 years ago but you have a long way to go yet.
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A long way to go to get where?
 
saying it doesn’t fit the rules and regulations of the homeowners association.
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Does anything else need to be said. Homeowner's associations have to some of the most useless organizations on the planet, governed by power hungry housewives.
 
Carjosse said:
Does anything else need to be said. Homeowner's associations have to some of the most useless organizations on the planet, governed by power hungry housewives.
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Well if a neighbor turns his house into an illegal alien half way house with 10 tenants and 10 cars parked all over the place, you have recourse.
 
joG said:
A long way to go to get where?
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To where all lives matter, where all lives are recognised as having been created as equal and that all lives equally matter.

Do I need to remind you of the 2nd passage of the Declaration of Independence as you often say you are an American?
 
chuckiechan said:
Well if a neighbor turns his house into an illegal alien half way house with 10 tenants and 10 cars parked all over the place, you have recourse.
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Then that is a job for city by-law enforcement, or in your specific case immigration enforcement as well.
 
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Infinite Chaos said:
To where all lives matter, where all lives are recognised as having been created as equal and that all lives equally matter.

Do I need to remind you of the 2nd passage of the Declaration of Independence as you often say you are an American?
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Where I come from, we were closer to that, when I was a child, than the same area seems now. So the country appears to have set off in the wrong direction. That's why I asked. We've spent a lot of time, energy and money on achieving the present. You mean we did that to go in the wrong direction?
 
BlackLivesMatter is a racist organization.

BlueLivesMatter is a racist organization.

Both are, in their own way, advocating for a specific race.

Both are ok.

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Carjosse said:
Does anything else need to be said. Homeowner's associations have to some of the most useless organizations on the planet, governed by power hungry housewives.
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Preposterously true.
 
Infinite Chaos said:
To where all lives matter, where all lives are recognised as having been created as equal and that all lives equally matter.
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To many on the left in America, that is considered a racist viewpoint. Do you see where the problem lies? ;)
 
Carjosse said:
Then that is a job for city by-law enforcement, or in your specific case immigration enforcement as well.
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And hence why we have HOAs

Many cities here In the US effectively mandate them, because the HOA saves them time and money in not having to deal with busybodys or maintain residential streets, or what not.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
And hence why we have HOAs

Many cities here In the US effectively mandate them, because the HOA saves them time and money in not having to deal with busybodys or maintain residential streets, or what not.
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Does that change the fact they are a horrible idea? No. It just means the city is lazy.
 
joG said:
Where I come from, we were closer to that, when I was a child, than the same area seems now. So the country appears to have set off in the wrong direction. That's why I asked. We've spent a lot of time, energy and money on achieving the present. You mean we did that to go in the wrong direction?
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No, you just have many more miles to go for those words to actually mean anything beyond simple platitudes. When those words were first written, they meant nothing to a large part of the population (note I don't say citizenship) and they still don't to this day. There are also huge and very rich vested interests in making sure those words are never meant to come true. The groups and foundations will always have more influence, money, time and energy than those trying to achieve the present you think exists.

Especially money., they fund science, research and books designed to make sure all lives are not seen as equal. This is a long way from the blue lives matter subject of the thread but equally, that phrase resonates because of past problems.

countryboy said:
To many on the left in America, that is considered a racist viewpoint. Do you see where the problem lies? ;)
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Yeah, the words were never really meant to apply to all were they. ;) Certainly wasn't what the founders actually thought they meant.
 
Vox said:
BlackLivesMatter is a racist organization.

BlueLivesMatter is a racist organization.

Both are, in their own way, advocating for a specific race.

Both are ok.

:2usflag:
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Racism advocates the superiority of a certain race.

As far as I can tell, neither movement does that and it is often the people who interpret it otherwise who reveal a hidden sense of feeling superior based on their race.
 
Fishking said:
Apparently, if you have the Blue Lives flag flying, in support of police officers, it's racist and you have to take it down.

St. Johns County homeowner told to take down Blue Lives Matter flag | WJAX-TV
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Homeowners Association...there's your first problem. Probably the only group in all of America that is allowed to rule with an iron fist.
Everytime i think of the HOA, i think of that one X-Files episode with that anal retentive gated community with the sludge monster.

Second thing: How's it racist? That's stupid as hell, but that is the mentality of almost everything in America these days. This is racist...that is racist. Piss on those race-baiting pricks. Anti-BLM? Please! A group that has connections to many incidents of hateful Anti-Cop rethoric and acts of violence and destruction. Those pricks make MLK do 360s in his grave everytime they "protest".
 
Infinite Chaos said:
There's something deeply wrong in any country that has to have blue / black / white lives matter protests. You may have finally given your black community equal rights and humanity only 60 years ago but you have a long way to go yet.
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Freedom of speech and freedom of expression are fundamental rights that when truly embrassed, lead to some folks saying things that may sound a little contravertial.

Freedom and liberty are a cornerstone of this country.

France is supposed to be that way as well -- Liberté, Equalité, Fraternité. However, after decades of socialist progression, France has outlawed the burqa, and restricted freedom of speech.

We may have disagreements that we air out in public, but I prefer that to the alternative where the government tells me what I am allowed to think, and what I'm allowed to say, or how I'm allowed to express myself.

This story is about a home owners association and their rules for a particular neighborhood. The government in the US doesn't have the power to restrict us. We, however, have the power to give others the ability to restrict us, like a home owners association.

I guess what I'm trying to say here, is that I would be at least reticent in my condemnation of other countries if my own had problems that in some views are even worse.
 
Beaudreaux said:
~ Freedom and liberty are a cornerstone of this country ~
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On that I have yet to see true evidence. I am hopeful given that it has become more of a cornerstone since the civil rights movement but nobody could argue that the years before that applied to all born in the USA equally.
 
Carjosse said:
Does anything else need to be said. Homeowner's associations have to some of the most useless organizations on the planet, governed by power hungry housewives.
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I live a association community, and you are right about the politics. I have a bunch of old bats running around right now claiming that I run a shipyard out of my garage because I build crabbing skiffs as a hobby. Even though there is never 1 piece of sawdust outside of my garage.

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Infinite Chaos said:
On that I have yet to see true evidence. I am hopeful given that it has become more of a cornerstone since the civil rights movement but nobody could argue that the years before that applied to all born in the USA equally.
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True, for the most part. Our past has not been the best example for the world. However, even though we still have more to do, since the 1960's the US has been steadily moving in the right direction. That, unfortunately, cannot be said about all countries:

France’s Laws against Hate Speech Are Bad News for Free Speech

France: Strict defamation and privacy laws limit free expression

France's headscarf war: 'It's an attack on freedom'

Racist hate speech has 'become routine in France'
 
Beaudreaux said:
True, for the most part. Our past has not been the best example for the world. However, even though we still have more to do, since the 1960's the US has been steadily moving in the right direction. That, unfortunately, cannot be said about all countries:
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Yes, but there aren't the same internal vested interests in preventing the US moving in the right direction as quickly as it could or even battling to reverse those changes.

Beaudreaux said:
France’s Laws against Hate Speech Are Bad News for Free Speech

France: Strict defamation and privacy laws limit free expression

France's headscarf war: 'It's an attack on freedom'

Racist hate speech has 'become routine in France'
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No disagreement there.
 
RetiredUSN said:
I live a association community, and you are right about the politics. I have a bunch of old bats running around right now claiming that I run a shipyard out of my garage because I build crabbing skiffs as a hobby. Even though there is never 1 piece of sawdust outside of my garage.

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I hope you tell them to **** off.
 
RetiredUSN said:
I live a association community, and you are right about the politics. I have a bunch of old bats running around right now claiming that I run a shipyard out of my garage because I build crabbing skiffs as a hobby. Even though there is never 1 piece of sawdust outside of my garage.

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Tell Ethel and her bridge club to go back to watching soaps and to **** off.
 
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