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    Re: Welcome to the Schiff Show Trials! Greatest Farce on Earth - Smoke, Mirrors and Tears

    Quote Originally Posted by Doc91478 View Post
    You mean like the Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, while the real spies that got the information out and passed it to Koval got away with it. Marxist Socialist Democrats all working for the Russians...
    Ask Trump, that's his quote.










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    Quote Originally Posted by PIPEWRENCH View Post
    They may actually do that if the democrats had any real evidence beside hearsay. This is even a more pathetic witch hunt than the collusion lie.
    The Democrats would have a ton of evidence if even one of them testified. They're the ones with first-hand knowledge. But of course, they can't testify, they've been warned by Trump.

    People that are truthful have nothing to hide and don't defy Congressional subpoenas.










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    Re: Welcome to the Schiff Show Trials! Greatest Farce on Earth - Smoke, Mirrors and Tears

    Quote Originally Posted by HumblePi View Post
    The Democrats would have a ton of evidence if even one of them testified. They're the ones with first-hand knowledge. But of course, they can't testify, they've been warned by Trump.

    People that are truthful have nothing to hide and don't defy Congressional subpoenas.
    That would be a change. No one yet has first hand knowledge of anything. The only primary source is archive record Trump released.

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    Re: Welcome to the Schiff Show Trials! Greatest Farce on Earth - Smoke, Mirrors and Tears

    Quote Originally Posted by HumblePi View Post
    The Democrats would have a ton of evidence if even one of them testified. They're the ones with first-hand knowledge. But of course, they can't testify, they've been warned by Trump.

    People that are truthful have nothing to hide and don't defy Congressional subpoenas.
    Like Eric Holder?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay59 View Post
    That would be a change. No one yet has first hand knowledge of anything. The only primary source is archive record Trump released.
    Yes, it would be a change if Trump didn't obstruct justice by refusing to let anyone with first-hand knowledge comply with a legal Congressional subpoena. We might all learn something.










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    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Like Eric Holder?
    Is he in prison?










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    Re: Welcome to the Schiff Show Trials! Greatest Farce on Earth - Smoke, Mirrors and Tears

    Quote Originally Posted by HumblePi View Post
    Is he in prison?
    He defied a Congressional Subpoena and withheld information and conversations regarding Fast and Furious and became the first censured Attorney General. You tell me, should he have gone to prison?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    He defied a Congressional Subpoena and withheld information and conversations regarding Fast and Furious and became the first censured Attorney General. You tell me, should he have gone to prison?
    No, he shouldn't have gone to prison. The House launched an investigation, and hereís the thing: Holder cooperated. Eric Holder spent several days on Capitol Hill getting his ass chewed out over the whole thing. He handed over more than 7,600 documents. Other administration officials were subpoenaed, and they testified. The head of the ATF was forced out.

    But the House didnít find what it wanted. It didnít find something so damning that it could stick it to the President. In the meanwhile, conspiracy-theory-prone Tea Party congress-critters mixed up various parts distortions, errors, partial truths, and in several instances, outright fabrications, to gin up the controversy and demand more documents.

    Because there were numerous criminal prosecutions going on, there were a lot of things that couldnít be released without screwing up active criminal prosecutions and ongoing investigations. That was the point where Holder basically had enough. The White House put its foot down and said, ďWeíve given you everything thatís relevant and a bit more.Ē

    Republicans refused to work out any deals. There was no viewing behind closed doors like with earlier contempt citations. There were no negotiations about what was legit and what was not. Republicans had adopted a complete scorched earth approach; no compromise, nothing less than capitulation to every demand they made.

    And thatís really what made Eric Holderís contempt process unique: there was no amount of cooperation that he could have possibly engaged in that would have not resulted in Republicans holding him in contempt. That was the goal: create a scandal, whether there really was one or not.

    Eric Holder was far from the first person to resist a Congressional subpoena, or even outright ignore one as at least 12 of Trump's 'boys' have done. But Eric Holder was really the first one where a Congress was so completely, utterly unreasonable about what they wanted as to force that particular issue.

    Now you finally know the whole truth and you can stop using Eric Holder as an excuse for Trump obstructing justice.










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    Re: Welcome to the Schiff Show Trials! Greatest Farce on Earth - Smoke, Mirrors and Tears

    Quote Originally Posted by HumblePi View Post
    Yes, it would be a change if Trump didn't obstruct justice by refusing to let anyone with first-hand knowledge comply with a legal Congressional subpoena. We might all learn something.
    He did better than that and you still aren't happy. Do you have any idea what that document he declassified is? Serious question, do you know what it is?

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    Re: Welcome to the Schiff Show Trials! Greatest Farce on Earth - Smoke, Mirrors and Tears

    Quote Originally Posted by HumblePi View Post
    Where's all the people who can put this to rest if they only appeared to testify? Where's Rudy and Mulvaney, how about John Bolton or Mike Pompeo. What do they have to hide?
    Why should anyone have to appear under oath so that National Security be placed in jeopardy Surely if the procedures of the Schitf committee did not leak like a sieve things might be different. If whistleblower Eric Ciaramella were on the up and up he'd appear to answer questions just as John Dean and other whistle blowers have done in the past. Only Obama had whistle blowers fired and in some cases placed in jail and later released. Then there's all those Benghazi survivors and witnesses that were forced to sign NDA's keeping them from testifying to Congress. Indeed, Trump has not done the same to silence those spewing hearsay infp….

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    Congressman: Benghazi Survivors Forced to Sign Non-Disclosure Agreements
    Jul 18, 2013 ∑ "On Tuesday I raised the question of why none of the Benghazi survivors, whether State Department, CIA, or private security contract employees have testified publicly before Congress. "According to trusted sources that have contacted my office, many if not all of the survivors of the Benghazi attacks along with others at the Department of Defense, the CIA have been asked or directed to sign additional non-disclosure agreements about their involvement in the Benghazi attacks. Some of these new NDAs, as they call them, I have been told were signed as recently as this summer."
    "If these reports are accurate, this would be a stunning revelation to any member of Congress, any member of Congress that finds this out and also more importantly to the American people. It also raises serious concerns about the priority of the administration's efforts to silence those with knowledge of the Benghazi attack in response.

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