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Never-Before-Seen Trump Tax Documents Show Major Inconsistencies

Rexedgar said:
Never-Before-Seen Trump Tax Documents Show Major Inconsistencies — ProPublica


Some folks are born silver spoon in hand
Lord, don't they help themselves, oh
But when the taxman comes to the door
Lord, the house looks like a rummage sale, yes
 - CCR


IIRC, Michael Cohen testified to this.
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Holy smokes! That is a fine article, Rex. Thanks for posting that.

The devil is in the details, is it not? Trump will have his day in court to explain how all these inconsistencies occurred. It certainly doesn't help Trump that Cohen testified Trump high balling lenders and low balling the IRS on the same property was/is SOP for Donald Trump.

I had NO idea that Jack Weisselberg, son of Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg, is an executive director of Ladder Capital. Jack Weisselberg's job includes making real estate loans as he did to Donald Trump with questionable data provided by ...Donald Trump.

The article prompts many questions. One question is what the hell happened with Allen Weisselberg? I thought Allen Weisselberg agreed to testify to Mueller in return for immunity. (I'll have to return to my copy of the Mueller Report and search for that) Have House committees questioned Allen Weisselberg? It seems to me that if Trump continues to refuse to provide financials that would prove his innocence - or not - that Weisselberg would be a key witness.
 
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Anyone have any evidence that Trump fills out the tax reporting for corporations he owns stock in? Does any stockholder?
 
joko104 said:
Anyone have any evidence that Trump fills out the tax reporting for corporations he owns stock in? Does any stockholder?
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You literally have no idea how laws work do you?
 
Risky Thicket said:
Holy smokes! That is a fine article, Rex. Thanks for posting that.

The devil is in the details, is it not? Trump will have his day in court to explain how all these inconsistencies occurred. It certainly doesn't help Trump that Cohen testified Trump high balling lenders and low balling the IRS on the same property was/is SOP for Donald Trump.

I had NO idea that Jack Weisselberg, son of Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg, is an executive director of Ladder Capital. Jack Weisselberg's job includes making real estate loans as he did to Donald Trump with questionable data provided by ...Donald Trump.

The article prompts many questions. One question is what the hell happened with Allen Weisselberg? I thought Allen Weisselberg agreed to testify to Mueller in return for immunity. (I'll have to return to my copy of the Mueller Report and search for that) Have House committees questioned Allen Weisselberg? It seems to me that if Trump continues to refuse to provide financials that would prove his innocence - or not - that Weisselberg would be a key witness.
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Have you provided proof on this forum that you are innocent of any crimes? So what are you hiding?

That makes as much sense as the OP message.
 
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Someone call Rachel Maddow!
 
joko104 said:
Anyone have any evidence that Trump fills out the tax reporting for corporations he owns stock in? Does any stockholder?
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You didn't read the full article. The answer to your obvious question was anticipated and provided by Heather Vogell.
 
tacomancer said:
You literally have no idea how laws work do you?
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It would appear that you don't. However, I do understand the Democratic Party's demand for a presumption of guilt for which everyone is guilty of every crime the person can not prove s/he didn't commit.
 
Rexedgar said:
Never-Before-Seen Trump Tax Documents Show Major Inconsistencies — ProPublica


Some folks are born silver spoon in hand
Lord, don't they help themselves, oh
But when the taxman comes to the door
Lord, the house looks like a rummage sale, yes
 - CCR


IIRC, Michael Cohen testified to this.
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There's nothing inconsistent in providing one set of figures for mortgage documents and another to the tax people. Both sides ask for numbers for their purpose. Those numbers often are not the same. Tax returns are not remotely similar to mortgage documents.

What this article does point out why President Trump should not give his returns to anyone. They've already been audited by the IRS for tax purposes and found acceptable. Two reasons. These sets of confidential documents have now been leaked to unauthorized entities. And they are taken out if context.
 
Instead of diverting and derailing the thread why not respond to the information in the OP?

If you aren't able to add comments and questions germane to the OP why don't you start your own thread?
 
joko104 said:
It would appear that you don't. However, I do understand the Democratic Party's demand for a presumption of guilt for which everyone is guilty of every crime the person can not prove s/he didn't commit.
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Protip: A company officer does not need to personally sign off on fraudulent financial paperwork in order to be liable for it.
 
jimbo said:
There's nothing inconsistent in providing one set of figures for mortgage documents and another to the tax people. Both sides ask for numbers for their purpose. Those numbers often are not the same. Tax returns are not remotely similar to mortgage documents.

What this article does point out why President Trump should not give his returns to anyone. They've already been audited by the IRS for tax purposes and found acceptable. Two reasons. These sets of confidential documents have now been leaked to unauthorized entities. And they are taken out if context.
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The State of New York is not the IRS. Their concerns, using much of the same data, are different from the IRS.
 
Risky Thicket said:
You didn't read the full article. The answer to your obvious question was anticipated and provided by Heather Vogell.
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No it doesn't. There is reason to believe the entire article is a lie because it claims that there are no corporations and rather that Trump as an individual rents or owns all properties personally.

I doubt Trump does any business venture that is not within a corporate structure, like the incessant lie that Trump has filed bankruptcy when in fact he never has. Rather, corporations he owned stock in has filed bankruptcy.

Just because the author wrote voluminous lies and distortions doesn't make it more true.

No, I do not believe that Trump buys, sells, owns and rents property solely in his individual personal capacity like the author claims throughout the article. The article is written for stupid and gullible people in my opinion.
 
joko104 said:
No it doesn't. There is reason to believe the entire article is a lie because it claims that there are no corporations and rather that Trump as an individual rents or owns all properties personally.

I doubt Trump does any business venture that is not within a corporate structure, like the incessant lie that Trump has filed bankruptcy when in fact he never has. Rather, corporations he owned stock in has filed bankruptcy.

Just because the author wrote voluminous lies and distortions doesn't make it more true.

No, I do not believe that Trump buys, sells, owns and rents property solely in his individual personal capacity like the author claims throughout the article. The article is written for stupid and gullible people in my opinion.
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:lol: I hope you hire someone to file your taxes for you. You managed to get every single detail about how finance law works wrong in this post.
 
joko104 said:
No it doesn't. There is reason to believe the entire article is a lie because it claims that there are no corporations and rather that Trump as an individual rents or owns all properties personally.

I doubt Trump does any business venture that is not within a corporate structure, like the incessant lie that Trump has filed bankruptcy when in fact he never has. Rather, corporations he owned stock in has filed bankruptcy.

Just because the author wrote voluminous lies and distortions doesn't make it more true.

No, I do not believe that Trump buys, sells, owns and rents property solely in his individual personal capacity like the author claims throughout the article. The article is written for stupid and gullible people in my opinion.
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If the tax return demanders finally do succeed, what they'll find is a few personal write offs, maybe a few salaries from corporations where he sits on boards or is an officer. Possibly some income from personal use of corporate properties, and a few pages of profit/loss from the 500 or so companies in which he is invested. There will be nothing to get excited about. Then they'll demand income/loss statements and tax returns from all 500.
 
Risky Thicket said:
Your position then is that Trump is in no way guilty?
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Where did you ever get that from what I posted?

What exactly is President Trump supposed to be guilty of? I've seen no verdict, not even an indictment.

I need to know where to look.
 
Risky Thicket said:
Start a thread about me and I'll be happy to address your questions. This isn't the thread for it.
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I am not who is trying to divert this to being about you. Rather it seems you are trying to play mod upstairs since I clearly linked my message to the topic and your message - your presumption of guilt unless proven innocent in your statement in your message.

My message was about the logic of your message in which you assert that anyone who can not prove they didn't commit a crime must be guilty of it. Or is it only Trump and Republicans? My message inquired as to whether your presumption of criminal-guilt standard is one you apply to yourself, or is it just more TDS hypocrisy?
 
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