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Never-Before-Seen Trump Tax Documents Show Major Inconsistencies

tacomancer said:
:lol: I hope you hire someone to file your taxes for you. You managed to get every single detail about how finance law works wrong in this post.
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One problem in debating progressives is they have NO concept of anything having to do with business.

I'll have to be careful not to go to far laughing at those of you who really believe Trump's financial a dealings are all him doing business as a sole proprietorship rather than own stock in corporations.

I mean really, that is so absolutely ignorant there is not such thing as intelligence debate. However, the author of the article correctly assumed that many progressive Democrats really are THAT stupid.
 
joko104 said:
Anyone have any evidence that Trump fills out the tax reporting for corporations he owns stock in? Does any stockholder?
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It’s not just tax fraud. It’s multiple counts of bank fraud. What kind of person lets someone take out loans in their name without even looking at the documents? Trump is either guilty as sin or has zero business acumen, probably both.
 
joko104 said:
One problem in debating progressives is they have NO concept of anything having to do with business.

I'll have to be careful not to go to far laughing at those of you who really believe Trump's financial a dealings are all him doing business as a sole proprietorship rather than own stock in corporations.

I mean really, that is so absolutely ignorant there is not such thing as intelligence debate. However, the author of the article correctly assumed that many progressive Democrats really are THAT stupid.
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Protip: If he sits on the board of those business he can be found liable of cooked books, even as a mere investor. Look up the legal term "piercing the corporate veil"
 
They lying in the article is transparent since they refuse to actually show the FULL paperwork - just small portions blocking out all the rest, do not show who the snippet is for, who signed it, or anything but desperately attempting to hide the full paperwork.

The author knows that many progressive Democrats are essentially extremely low IQ fascist cultists for which no matter how absurd they will believe any hate-on-Trump claim.
 
joko104 said:
They lying in the article is transparent since they refuse to actually show the FULL paperwork - just small portions blocking out all the rest, do not show who the snippet is for, who signed it, or anything but desperately attempting to hide the full paperwork.

The author knows that many progressive Democrats are essentially extremely low IQ fascist cultists for which no matter how absurd they will believe any hate-on-Trump claim.
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So far Joko was...

Wrong about how finance laws work

Wrong about about how fraud laws work

Wrong about the liabilities and duties of shareholders and other corporate officers



For those who don't wish to find themselves in Joko's situation, here is a public service announcement:
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joko104 said:
No it doesn't. There is reason to believe the entire article is a lie because it claims that there are no corporations and rather that Trump as an individual rents or owns all properties personally.

I doubt Trump does any business venture that is not within a corporate structure, like the incessant lie that Trump has filed bankruptcy when in fact he never has. Rather, corporations he owned stock in has filed bankruptcy.

Just because the author wrote voluminous lies and distortions doesn't make it more true.

No, I do not believe that Trump buys, sells, owns and rents property solely in his individual personal capacity like the author claims throughout the article. The article is written for stupid and gullible people in my opinion.
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The first sentence from the article in the OP:

Documents obtained by ProPublica show stark differences in how Donald Trump’s businesses reported some expenses, profits and occupancy figures for two Manhattan buildings, giving a lender different figures than they provided to New York City tax authorities.

The discrepancies made the buildings appear more profitable to the lender — and less profitable to the officials who set the buildings’ property tax.
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Trump is the sole principle owner of the Trump Organization.
 
jimbo said:
Where did you ever get that from what I posted?

What exactly is President Trump supposed to be guilty of? I've seen no verdict, not even an indictment.

I need to know where to look.
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Precisely my point. In the matters at hand Trump is being investigated for possible wrong doing. Based on concerns regarding his tax and borrowing inconsistances the State of New York apparently feel that investigations are warranted. Hence, the requests for pertinent financials. IF Trump Organization cannot provide reasonable proof that no laws have been violate Trump as the sole owner of Trump Organization may be indicted at which time all records will required by the NY State AG.
 
joko104 said:
I am not who is trying to divert this to being about you. Rather it seems you are trying to play mod upstairs
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I'm not going to respond to that.

since I clearly linked my message to the topic and your message - your presumption of guilt unless proven innocent in your statement in your message.
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Where did I say Trump was guilty?

My message was about the logic of your message in which you assert that anyone who can not prove they didn't commit a crime must be guilty of it. Or is it only Trump and Republicans? My message inquired as to whether your presumption of criminal-guilt standard is one you apply to yourself, or is it just more TDS hypocrisy?
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To my knowledge my behaviors have not caused anyone to suspect me of possibly having committed bank and tax fraud. If the state or the federal government had reason to question my financial actions or inactions I have no doubt that they would investigate and possibly ask me to provide answers and documents that would address their concerns. That is something Trump has continued to refuse to do. His refusals only increase the efforts made by the State of New York to determine the truth.
 
Risky Thicket said:
Precisely my point. In the matters at hand Trump is being investigated for possible wrong doing. Based on concerns regarding his tax and borrowing inconsistances the State of New York apparently feel that investigations are warranted. Hence, the requests for pertinent financials. IF Trump Organization cannot provide reasonable proof that no laws have been violate Trump as the sole owner of Trump Organization may be indicted at which time all records will required by the NY State AG.
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Apparently feel and possible are not grounds for a trial. People in this country are presumed innocent until found guilty.

I've seen nothing to indicate that the city is asking for or has the loan documents, but they are not particularly confidential.

It's not up to Trump to prove himself innocent. Neither is up to him to assist in this mock trial. There are a couple of amendments applicable here.
 
Risky Thicket said:
Holy smokes! That is a fine article, Rex. Thanks for posting that.

The devil is in the details, is it not? Trump will have his day in court to explain how all these inconsistencies occurred. It certainly doesn't help Trump that Cohen testified Trump high balling lenders and low balling the IRS on the same property was/is SOP for Donald Trump.

I had NO idea that Jack Weisselberg, son of Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg, is an executive director of Ladder Capital. Jack Weisselberg's job includes making real estate loans as he did to Donald Trump with questionable data provided by ...Donald Trump.

The article prompts many questions. One question is what the hell happened with Allen Weisselberg? I thought Allen Weisselberg agreed to testify to Mueller in return for immunity. (I'll have to return to my copy of the Mueller Report and search for that) Have House committees questioned Allen Weisselberg? It seems to me that if Trump continues to refuse to provide financials that would prove his innocence - or not - that Weisselberg would be a key witness.
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There are still so many loose ends still to be tidied up!
 
Rexedgar said:
There are still so many loose ends still to be tidied up!
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Yes, many, many.

Donald Trump's strategy comes straight from his ass.

A wise and innocent man would stop ofuscating and obstructing. Trump, who is decidedly not a wise man, continues to shoot himself in the foot. Why not provide varifiable answers to questions and halt the continuous suspicions, accusations and investigations? Trump in his growing insanity invites more doubt and investigation.
 
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