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    Re: Socialism never?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It depends. Are we talking of actual socialism, where the state usurps means of production? Then yes, it is bad. Are we talking about social programs, things like Universal Healthcare and support programs like Welfare? Then that's not actually socialism, and not necessarily bad.

    I think people scream "socialism socialism socialism" but have very little understanding as to what socialism actually is.
    Probably including the students, and 3/4 of the people here who are in favor of it, who think tax-and-spend capitalism is "socialism."
    The only reason to be anti-libertarian is there are people you want to control that you wouldn't be able to.

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    Re: Socialism never?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It depends. Are we talking of actual socialism, where the state usurps means of production? Then yes, it is bad. Are we talking about social programs, things like Universal Healthcare and support programs like Welfare? Then that's not actually socialism, and not necessarily bad.

    I think people scream "socialism socialism socialism" but have very little understanding as to what socialism actually is.
    Tell that to the Dem candidates.... they are verging on a form of government where everything is owned and distributed equally.


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    Re: Socialism never?

    Quote Originally Posted by GDViking View Post
    Hands down, one of the most uneducated ignorant posts I have ever read.

    Just pure unsubstantiated propaganda...
    Then I suggest you contact Cal Thomas and tell him yourself....

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    Re: Socialism never?

    Socialism is a case that starts off with "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need" and it always ends up, "Do for me what I won't do for myself"

    It's the dogma and doctrine of sniveling cowards and manipulators of weak-willed women...
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    Re: Socialism never?

    Quote Originally Posted by aociswundumho View Post
    Socialism is public ownership/control of the means of production. Politicians are attracted to it ....
    You're just make **** up. Present us with a link to each mainstream American politician who is advocating "public ownership/control of the means of production."

    You can't because they don't exist. No mainstream American politician is attracted to it. I daresay I would be surprised if you could find any mainstream politician in any Western nation who supports this.

    Please quit posting such nonsense. Thanks in advance.
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    Re: Socialism never?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    It's the dogma and doctrine of sniveling cowards and manipulators of weak-willed women...
    Well that's the dogma and doctrine of Trump. So you're arguing that this is the dogma and doctrine of Trump's base. Based on his campaign strategy, Trump agrees with you.


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    Clearly Trump believes his base is largely composed of racist (sniveling) cowards. The question is, does Trump know his base?
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    Re: Socialism never?

    Quote Originally Posted by JustHanging View Post
    Well that's the dogma and doctrine of Trump. So you're arguing that this is the dogma and doctrine of Trump's base. Based on his campaign strategy, Trump agrees with you.


    Trump's Midterm Closing Argument: Pure Racial Fear


    Clearly Trump believes his base is largely composed of racist (sniveling) cowards. The question is, does Trump know his base?
    No, it isn't.
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    Re: Socialism never?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    When the government controls the money that pays an industry, they control the industry.
    Unfortunately that rhetorical gunpowder was all used up by the right when the government didn't pay the industry but simply provided tax credits for premiums in a private multi-payer system. That, we were told, was government control of the industry and had to be sabotaged at all costs. Opening the door to elimination of the private multi-payer system. Well, here we go.

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    Re: Socialism never?

    Umm, socialism does work when applied correctly. Tell me, why are the scandinavian countries so happy and yet they are democratic socialist countries and damn cold to boot. You folks who try to convince everyone socialism is bad always use the worst examples you can find and never mention the best.
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    Re: Socialism never?

    Quote Originally Posted by bongsaway View Post
    Tell me, why are the scandinavian countries so happy and yet they are democratic socialist countries.
    Um, because they're not socialist. They are capitalist and have market economies. Like most ignorant progressives, you are confusing the welfare state with socialism.

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