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Trump: It's Time We Label Antifa 'A Major Organization Of Terror'​



Trump: It's Time We Label Antifa 'A Major Organization Of Terror'
28 Jul 19 ~ Beth Baumann
Earlier this month, Sens. Ted Cruz (R-TX) and Bill Cassidy (R-LA) introduced legislation that would label Antifa a terrorist organization. Cruz and Cassidy's resolution was in direct response to Antifa's attacks on Ngo in Portland last month. The declaration appears to come after conservative journalist Andy Ngo appeared on Fox News to discuss the Antifa attack he sustained last month. Ngo was beaten, had "milkshakes" filled with cement mixers thrown at him and his GoPro camera was stolen. He suffered a brain injury as a result of the beating.


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Terrorism is the use of violence and fear against civilians for political purposes. Amazing how the news networks Progressive Marxist media actually defend the likes of ANTIFA. It's the moral equivalent of endorsing the KKK and Bolshevism. Antifa clearly qualifies since its inception. So do many other Obama thug groups. They have no qualms about inflicting mayhem and physical harm on those they oppose as further proven by the attack on ICE facilities by A 69-year-old Antifa terrorist.
Indeed the biased MSM has quickly buried that story and fact. Rather they continue to claim otherwise. Meanwhile, multiple Antifa groups are now praising Willem Van Spronsen as a martyr to their cause.
Progressive Marxist Socialist/DSA Democrats and their biased MSM over the past 20 years has convinced Low-Info Americans that THE KKK was made up of Racist Republicans....Unfortunately, that myth has also been pushed by Unionized Public School Teachers nationwide. Specifically the Alliance for Global Justice and the Tides Group have been funding #BLM and #Antifa.... specifically through "Crowds on Demand".
Adam Swart, founder and CEO of Crowds On Demand and Robert Creamer's "Americans United For Change" are literally responsible for most of the organization of individuals gathered for each BLM and ANTIFA attacks and riots in the US since these firms do most of the advertising for recruiting rioters and are the companies who pay most of them anywhere from $15.00 to $75.00 per hour to take part in nationwide protests.
President Trump may be crude and vulgar at times, but he fights for what logical clear minded Americans want for the betterment of this country.
 
I hope this happens...it's been something that's been needed for far too long. We also need to pass some laws saying you can't run around wearing masks while doing this kind of stuff.
 
Step one in making dissent illegal.
 
Doc91478 said:
Trump: It's Time We Label Antifa 'A Major Organization Of Terror'​



Trump: It's Time We Label Antifa 'A Major Organization Of Terror'
28 Jul 19 ~ Beth Baumann
Earlier this month, Sens. Ted Cruz (R-TX) and Bill Cassidy (R-LA) introduced legislation that would label Antifa a terrorist organization. Cruz and Cassidy's resolution was in direct response to Antifa's attacks on Ngo in Portland last month. The declaration appears to come after conservative journalist Andy Ngo appeared on Fox News to discuss the Antifa attack he sustained last month. Ngo was beaten, had "milkshakes" filled with cement mixers thrown at him and his GoPro camera was stolen. He suffered a brain injury as a result of the beating.


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Terrorism is the use of violence and fear against civilians for political purposes. Amazing how the news networks Progressive Marxist media actually defend the likes of ANTIFA. It's the moral equivalent of endorsing the KKK and Bolshevism. Antifa clearly qualifies since its inception. So do many other Obama thug groups. They have no qualms about inflicting mayhem and physical harm on those they oppose as further proven by the attack on ICE facilities by A 69-year-old Antifa terrorist.
Indeed the biased MSM has quickly buried that story and fact. Rather they continue to claim otherwise. Meanwhile, multiple Antifa groups are now praising Willem Van Spronsen as a martyr to their cause.
Progressive Marxist Socialist/DSA Democrats and their biased MSM over the past 20 years has convinced Low-Info Americans that THE KKK was made up of Racist Republicans....Unfortunately, that myth has also been pushed by Unionized Public School Teachers nationwide. Specifically the Alliance for Global Justice and the Tides Group have been funding #BLM and #Antifa.... specifically through "Crowds on Demand".
Adam Swart, founder and CEO of Crowds On Demand and Robert Creamer's "Americans United For Change" are literally responsible for most of the organization of individuals gathered for each BLM and ANTIFA attacks and riots in the US since these firms do most of the advertising for recruiting rioters and are the companies who pay most of them anywhere from $15.00 to $75.00 per hour to take part in nationwide protests.
President Trump may be crude and vulgar at times, but he fights for what logical clear minded Americans want for the betterment of this country.
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If this Trumpian musing occured in a vacuum, it would be fine & well. We all decry violence, whether perpetrated by the Left & Right alike.

But when this proposal is seen in the context of Trump's recent (April) actions to remove the specific category "White Supremacist" from the Domestic Terrorism umbrella, it is clear that something is afoot.

I hope as soon as we get a Dem back in the White House, they will re-integrate the scourge of White Supremecy into its lawful category of Domestic Terrorism, along with other violent groups that are deserved.
 
And yet people scoff at the comparison between Trump and Hitler.
 
Well, not that I have much interest in supporting or defending or risking agreeing with Trump but he may not be that far off the mark with this one. Antifa has shown themselves to be confrontational and violent, willing to assault people and damage private property, some going so far as to hide behind masks while doing so.

No way we can categorize Antifa as an organization of inclusion and peace.

Our issue becomes placing a label on Antifa, while ignoring so many organizations on the right seemingly just as terrorism intending as Antifa is.
 
rocket88 said:
Step one in making dissent illegal.
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I would settle for removing masks as step one. And I don’t believe that because one side doesn’t like the president, an organized paramilitary mob, masked, armored, and armed should be able to operate in our cities with impunity.

WTF are people thinking, excusing this by calling it “Trumpian”. I like Trump, and I am white. Does that mean in your eyes It’s OK to assault me? How much more racist can you get?
 
rocket88 said:
Step one in making dissent illegal.
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Dissent is not the reason to make BLM and Antifa terrorist groups illegal. It's the masks and violence they use. BLM was responsible for the violence and burning of Ferguson and the death of at least one person, that also includes the violence perpetrated in Baltimore. Antifa violence across the nation and the armed attack in Portland OR, is another. Dissent can be accompliced without violence. That is permissible by the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.....
 
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Doc91478 said:
Dissent is not the reason to make BLM and Antifa terrorist groups illegal. It's the masks and violence they use. BLM was responsible for the violence and burning of Ferguson and the death of at least one person. Antifa violence across the nation and the armed attack in Portland OR, is another. Dissent can be accomplice without violence. That is permissible by the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.....
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So you propose that every person wearing Antifa or BLM shirt be arrested?
 
How many have died at the hands of these "terrorists"? As opposed to, say, White Supremacists?
 
AProudLefty said:
So you propose that every person wearing Antifa or BLM shirt be arrested?
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NO! but wearing a mask while perpetrating violence against others and destruction of property should be arrested.
 
Doc91478 said:
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NO! but wearing a mask while perpetrating violence against others and destruction of property should be arrested.
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Correct. The law is the law. Why the overkill with labelling them domestic terrorism? And if they are labelled as such, what happens next?
 
chuckiechan said:
I would settle for removing masks as step one. And I don’t believe that because one side doesn’t like the president, an organized paramilitary mob, masked, armored, and armed should be able to operate in our cities with impunity.

WTF are people thinking, excusing this by calling it “Trumpian”. I like Trump, and I am white. Does that mean in your eyes It’s OK to assault me? How much more racist can you get?
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Who the F are you talking to?

There sre already laws against violence. I do not think they should be ignored no matter the person's politics.

But the point is THERE ARE ALREADY LAWS against it. Classifying these groups as terrorist pretty much opens the door for the government to go play thought police.
 
Every terrorist murder in the last year has been linked to right wing extremism. Right wing extremism has three times as many murders than Islamic extremists in the last decade.

And yet the right wing need to hoot and holler about one of their own merely getting an ass kicking is terrorism.

It's not terrorism if you have it coming. And nobody died.

Not to mention Antifa in no way is organized or controlled by a central command structure. And you have right wingers arguing that left wing lone nuts are terrorist while saying right wing terrorists are loan nuts.

And wondering why they keep getting their ass kicked in public.
 
chuckiechan said:
I would settle for removing masks as step one. And I don’t believe that because one side doesn’t like the president, an organized paramilitary mob, masked, armored, and armed should be able to operate in our cities with impunity.

WTF are people thinking, excusing this by calling it “Trumpian”. I like Trump, and I am white. Does that mean in your eyes It’s OK to assault me? How much more racist can you get?
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Since I appear to be the only one that used the term "Trumpian" in the posts above yours, I must assume you are referencing me.

1] I never "excused this", as is clear in my post. You are mis-characterizing my post.

2] "Trumpian" is a conjugation no different than "Nixonian", "Clintonian" or "Kennedyesgue". To imply any more than the term is 'referring to the attributes of its namesake', at least in my use of it, is erroneous on your part.
 
Chomsky said:
If this Trumpian musing occured in a vacuum, it would be fine & well. We all decry violence, whether perpetrated by the Left & Right alike.

But when this proposal is seen in the context of Trump's recent (April) actions to remove the specific category "White Supremacist" from the Domestic Terrorism umbrella, it is clear that something is afoot.

I hope as soon as we get a Dem back in the White House, they will re-integrate the scourge of White Supremecy into its lawful category of Domestic Terrorism, along with other violent groups that are deserved.
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Come on Chomsky, Your namesake has condoned violence to further Marxist Socialist ideology in America.
"Reintegrate"? Since when has Democrats advocated it? They have been and are the progenitors of Segregation, Racism, Ethnicity, Religion, etc. Progressive Marxist Socialist/DSA Democrats were the party of segregation back then. They are the party of segregation today. Segregation is happening right now, voluntarily, across the country, in public and private institutions dominated by liberals, who preach equality and diversity but can’t quite figure out how to practice what they preach. The PMS/DSA Democrat Plantation cities with their segregated Ghettos are the proof.
Take for example the segregation with Colleges and Universities today.... PMS/DSA Democrat Leftists today are a lot more like George Wallace than they will ever admit. Despite the allegedly positive justifications for segregating students on campus by race or ethnicity, when students are taught to believe they need segregated safe spaces, housing, events, and ceremonies on campus they are being taught that it’s okay to be intolerant of people who don’t look like you. It fosters racially motivated suspicion and anxiety. It is antithetical to inclusivity, tolerance, and diversity. Yet, left-wing “academics” are enthusiastically bringing back institutionalized segregation.
 
ThoughtEx. said:
Every terrorist murder in the last year has been linked to right wing extremism. Right wing extremism has three times as many murders than Islamic extremists in the last decade.

And yet the right wing need to hoot and holler about one of their own merely getting an ass kicking is terrorism.

It's not terrorism if you have it coming. And nobody died.

Not to mention Antifa in no way is organized or controlled by a central command structure. And you have right wingers arguing that left wing lone nuts are terrorist while saying right wing terrorists are loan nuts.

And wondering why they keep getting their ass kicked in public.
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Right. What is troubling here - as I posted above - is that just recently Trump removed "White Nationalism" from the legal category of Domestic Terrorism. So he's inconsistent in his approach here, and his inconsistency would seem to denote he's acting out of political bias.
 
Chomsky said:
Right. What is troubling here - as I posted above - is that just recently Trump removed "White Nationalism" from the legal category of Domestic Terrorism. So he's inconsistent in his approach here, and his inconsistency would seem to denote he's acting out of political bias.
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Mind giving me a source for that? I'm curious. I can't find it.
 
Manc Skipper said:
How many have died at the hands of these "terrorists"? As opposed to, say, White Supremacists?
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Oh, I get it. Everyone white that you don’t like is a White Supremacist, so you feel you are morally righteous in siccing your mob on them.

I’m white, and I’m not ashamed of it. Is that a problem for you?

Who among you are committed enough to put on an Antifa mask and get down to business?

“Evil lives where good men do nothing”. Now’s the chance.

:roll:
 
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chuckiechan said:
Oh, I get it. Everyone white that you don’t like is a White Supremacist, so you feel you are morally righteous in siccing your mob on them.

I’m white, and I’m not ashamed of it. Is that a problem for you?
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LOL wot? You actually read that in his post?
 
Doc91478 said:
President Trump may be crude and vulgar at times, but he fights for what logical clear minded Americans want for the betterment of this country.
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And to Trump that means labeling Antifa a major domestic terror outfit, which is all well and good except that he wants ONLY Antifa labeled that way.

Klan? Neo-nazis? Private extremist far-Right militia groups? Proud Boys?
Naaah, they're just patriots letting off a little steam!
They're "espressin' their free speach".

And that is where the labeling of ONE group to the exception of all others falls flat.
But you'd never know it to talk to Trump's ardent supporters!
So go ahead and officially designate Antifa as domestic terrorists.

And on January 21, 2021, don't start crying when the groups on the far-Right get a taste.

Look, I hate Antifa, I can't stand them. They aren't doing ANY favors for the mainstream Left in this country whatsoever.
They're not offering ideas for leadership, they aren't protecting anybody else but their own, they're not educating anyone on the value of democracy and they're not doing ground level work on spreading peace.
They're only interested in violence. And they have attacked Democrats and other liberals and branded them traitors for not being far enough to the Left for their satisfaction.

And that is what makes Antifa EXACTLY LIKE the Klan, the Neo-nazis, the privately organized extremist far-Right militia groups and the Proud Boys.

I am sick and tired of being tarred by the right wing members of this forum as some kind of Antifa sympathizer because I do not jump up and blurt out a constant litany of Tourettes-style condemnation of Antifa with every post I make, I am fed up with the amateur hour "wannabe-HUAC" style bullying being perpetrated by Trump lovers and I've had it with the constant questioning of my patriotism.

And the final straw is being told that if I don't like it here I can leave...by people AND PRESIDENTS who look the other way when jackbooted right wing terrorists commit mass shootings, bombings and otherwise threaten both ordinary members of the public and elected officials, sometimes even under color of authority.

Donald Trump is running a reality TV show and you need to turn off the TV set and get back to reality.
 
rocket88 said:
Step one in making dissent illegal.
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There's a difference between dissent, legal and peaceful protest and assembly, and beating people, causing injury, or don't you understand this difference?
 
eohrnberger said:
There's a difference between dissent, legal and peaceful protest and assembly, and beating people, causing injury, or don't you understand this difference?
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Do all Antifa members beat up people?
 
Doc91478 said:
Come on Chomsky, Your namesake has condoned violence to further Marxist Socialist ideology in America.
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I'm not interested in spending time defending - or not - the RL Chomsky, but I have never seen him espouse what you specifically claim.

"Reintegrate"? Since when has Democrats advocated it? They have been and are the progenitors of Segregation, Racism, Ethnicity, Religion, etc. Progressive Marxist Socialist/DSA Democrats were the party of segregation back then. They are the party of segregation today. Segregation is happening right now, voluntarily, across the country, in public and private institutions dominated by liberals, who preach equality and diversity but can’t quite figure out how to practice what they preach. The PMS/DSA Democrat Plantation cities with their segregated Ghettos are the proof.
Take for example the segregation with Colleges and Universities today.... PMS/DSA Democrat Leftists today are a lot more like George Wallace than they will ever admit. Despite the allegedly positive justifications for segregating students on campus by race or ethnicity, when students are taught to believe they need segregated safe spaces, housing, events, and ceremonies on campus they are being taught that it’s okay to be intolerant of people who don’t look like you. It fosters racially motivated suspicion and anxiety. It is antithetical to inclusivity, tolerance, and diversity. Yet, left-wing “academics” are enthusiastically bringing back institutionalized segregation.
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Ah, I see what happened here Doc. You confused my use of the term "re-integrate", by associating it with racial integration, when I was speaking of "re-integrating" the violent crime perpetrated by White Nationalists back into the "Demostic Terrorism" legal category.

If you re-read my reply keeping its context in mind - that Trump removed White Nationalism from Domestic Terrorism category - I think you'll understand my post's intent better.

But I also must add you are indeed in-part right in your post above, even with your misunderstanding of my use of "re-integrate". The Dems do not want White Nationalists to re-integrate into our Party! We went through that back a half-century ago. We want to keep them out. Let them enjoy their home in the Republican Party, and in the Trump administration. We surely don't want them!
 
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